[MAY 28] Meanwhile in Top Lane...

RiotA Small Man··14 votes·12,280 views


Hey guys, welcome to this week’s 'Meanwhile in Top Lane...' post, with hawt banner courtesy of Crazy Boris.

A lot happens in a week - interesting discussions constantly pop up throughout the League ecosystem only to be replaced by the newest hotness and fall out of visibility. Hot topics of discussion don’t always stay that way for very long, so unless you’re on top of it all day every day (and who has time for that when there’s a ranked ladder to climb?), it’s easy to miss a lot.

As we mentioned in our test post, with this in mind we'd like to try out a weekly post featuring some interesting conversations you may have missed as well as upcoming discussion opportunities.

Let us know what you think!

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Shortly after the release of the new automatic reform system, a bunch of players shared their “friend’s” (wink) reform cards to see just how effective the new system is.

Riot posts on the sub

For those who’ve always pined for a subreddit equivalent of the Red Tracker, u/codersanchez created a subreddit that answers your pleas.


TIL Pobelter played Neopets

TSM Dyrus and CLG Pobelter each conducted an AMA over on the subreddit.


Surrender at 20 Forfeit at 10

Occams Raiser proposed a feature to deal with a teammate failing to connect, which prompted debate about why it would or wouldn’t work.

Derp, our bad..

After folks were caught off guard by Team Builder being locked until level 25, Lyte jumped in with some context and discussed our plan to unlock it once we’ve addressed the problems it presents for newer players.


Fun for the whole family

Frustrated with supporting solo queue Vaynes? Redditor u/kingcobweb created a game to help ease the pain: Vaynespotting.

Narrrrrratiiiiiive, come out to plaaaayyyyhaaaayyyyy (thanks Siggó)

Eyrgos expressed some frustration with the narrative team for not joining lore discussions, and Jaredan jumped in to address some misperceptions and share a bit of context around the team’s absence on the boards.

Diversify your spellfolio

Squeaky101 shared an infographic showing the lack of diversity in spell popularity, prompting discussion of why certain spells are unpopular and tweaks that could be made to them to fix that.

Serpents: love 'em or hate 'em

Canastus started an interesting debate about the Cassiopeia nerfs by theorizing about how they may impact her laning phase.


The roffles

For your double-dose of fun: Some lighthearted banter about which skillshot is the hardest to land, and folks sharing the best legit excuses they’ve heard for going afk (“My dog ate my router” didn’t make the cut).

You may have missed...

Couple announcements from us this week: We’re leveling up community tournament support, Hexakill is live on Twisted Treeline, and all login screens have been added to our YouTube channel.




Thanks for tuning in, and feel free to point out any great conversations we may have missed!

24 Comments

RaiseYourBortles5 votes

Nerf Flash 2015

A Miss Fortune7 votes

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Nerf Flash 2015

I wouldn't say nerfing Flash would even be legitimate, it will still be viable unless it's literally half a unit of a blink. Maybe if you can't flash over walls or anything it would see less play, but still would definitely.

I think they could buff the other spells, for example.

summoner 13 : Lower cooldown to 65 seconds, passively gives 10% CDR (Fits the spam style of the people who would use this, they need mana but CDR would push them towards using this.)

{{summoner:2}} : Personally I think this spell is really underrated, maybe if an enemy is spotted in a central area of the spell then they are slowed by 15% until they leave the ring. It could be used to get vision on a fleeing enemy and slow them or maybe be used to engage/ambush someone in their own jungle.

summoner 1 : This spell should give you a boost of 100% movement speed for 0.5 seconds. It should be used mainly to kite and disengage and 0.5 seconds may not seem like a lot, but it would definitely benefit the users (who are often AP, as Mercurial Scimitar covers it up for AD.) who need it to stay out of a Leona stun and dodge the follow up stuns/roots/whatever else.

summoner 21 : Not very popular and not a whole lot of reason to choose it over Heal until you start getting to mid - late game. Even then the only reason is about +100 on the shield and Ignite can't counter it, but by mid - late game ignite is really only used for duels or tagging people. I would say passively give it the ability to block Auto Attacks. So if you're up against someone like Zed, you can block a few more damage from his auto attacks. It won't mean you auto win lane because he won't do any damage with his auto attacks but it will definitely help out. I could even see this useful on ADCs. "Do I wanna take Barrier to provide myself more cover, or do I wanna take heal for both me and my support but risk taking more damage and Ignite.".

summoner 6 I'm shocked the cooldown isn't relatively low for this, I think they should at least change it to 45% Movement Speed for 3 seconds and removes all Slows/Roots (Doesn't remove stuns) from you, after you use it you can still be Slowed or Rooted though.

New Spells?

New spells would be cool and I think that spells are what make your champion a bit more unique from the other people who play him/her. Spells are mostly optional and you can take whatever you want, but Riot is nearly forcing us to use certain spells and forget about the rest. Sure Revive wasn't the BEST spell but at least it gave us more options, and people like Karthus players found certain uses for it.

RaiseYourBortles1 votes

Love these ideas. This would bring so much diversity in summoner spells. summoner 4 summoner 11 summoner 14 summoner 7 summoner 3 and summoner 12 every game gets boring

BRING BACK {{summoner:2}} AND summoner 21

A Miss Fortune1 votes

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Love these ideas. This would bring so much diversity in summoner spells. summoner 4 summoner 11 summoner 14 summoner 7 summoner 3 and summoner 12 every game gets boring

BRING BACK {{summoner:2}} AND summoner 21

Thanks, I'm really interested in seeing what Riot has in store for the Summoner Spells.

I actually have often taken summoner 21 and {{summoner:2}} . Clairvoyance is amazing throughout the game, it lets you have much more Jungle and Dragon/Baron control and get eyes on a really high priority target for assassins. I like to take Barrier simply because I know that with people like Azir, I'll never die to an ignite whereas if I took heal then the heal would only be like, 70 health due to Grevious Wounds.

I like how Ignite is being taken by Supports now, it makes people think twice about recklessly engaging on a Janna while they're under turret for a kill and it also forces people, particularly ADCs if they should take Barrier for the stronger shield, take Heal but risk it being useless, take Ignite but risk their own safety, or something else. Instead of every ADC in the game taking heal, I think that your own Summoner Spells should reflect your own play style.

RiotGogoUsagi6 votes

I wooshed so hard -- Until you posted this, totally interpreted OP's comment as "news flash about nerfs 2015".

On a more srs note though: Personally I think the spells conversation was the most interesting of the bunch because of how unique / rare the subject matter is -- It brought up points that I hadn't considered simply because I got used to "the way of things".

Random semi-related anecdote, one of the hardest habits I had to break when I was learning league was taking clarity -- Now I may or may not just take 4 mana pots instead e__e

A Miss Fortune1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot GogoUsagi,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=XbdBAxHJ,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2015-05-29T03:19:19.630+0000)

I wooshed so hard -- Until you posted this, totally interpreted OP's comment as "news flash about nerfs 2015".

On a more srs note though: Personally I think the spells conversation was the most interesting of the bunch because of how unique / rare the subject matter is -- It brought up points that I hadn't considered simply because I got used to "the way of things".

Random semi-related anecdote, one of the hardest habits I had to break when I was learning league was taking clarity -- Now I may or may not just take 4 mana pots instead e__e

I agree, I got use to the way of things and just going with what everyone else was taking as Summoner Spells, but I started taking Clairvoyance-Exhaust on Lulu Support, or Clarity on Sona . In the end I found that the Spells were a lot more viable than other people thought, I will not say they certainly challenge the current spells but I think with a few tweaks they would be awesome.

I also use to take summoner 13 as a Summoner Spell on mana-hungry champions. It's awesome for sustain and I could imagine people like Cassiopeia Fiddlesticks Orianna and more be able to use the spell pretty efficiently.

IwfiKe3qjM1 votes

like the idea about summoner 6 and summoner 21 but I think summoner 6 need little more tweak...

for summoner 6 maybe lower the CD (from 210 seconds to 180 seconds) raise the MS boost although reducing the duration (from 27% for 10 seconds to 40% for 3-5 seconds and from 40% for 10 seconds to 70% for 3-5 seconds and gains immunity to slows with Distortion) just fine...

Keevalroy1 votes

Sure Revive wasn't the BEST spell but at least it gave us more options, and people like Karthus players found certain uses for it.

Damn right we did - please give it back! You guys that made this decision provided no reasoning for its removal that couldn't be argued.

Champion Skin1 votes

Well with Ghost you kind of have to take distortion.... since it reduce the cooldown and increase the movement speed buff to 40% And most people who take Ghost also take flash/Teleport anyways (though flash/Tp don't get all that much improvement except the lower cooldown but well that's still useful)

And one interesting use I heard about was Karthus using his passive fully... and then if he needed to... he could revive then ult... if not needed he could just hold on to his ult and revive

GraySeas3 votes

Wow, this is quite useful. Particularly the part about Team Builder.. I had no idea why they changed it, and now i cant play normals with my boyfriend without trolls. u_u; People forget how long it takes just to get from 20 to 25 without exp boosts.. (but maybe that is the secret plan.. to get people to buy boosts..)

Anyways, is there any way to subscribe to something like this so i can see this weekly update? Or maybe there could be some sort of forum email newsletter thing? That would be nice. :3

Blue Collar Bear3 votes

I don't haunt the boards 24/7 (promise), but these are really helpful for knowing what's going on.

Baron of Bread3 votes

I love that you have all the announcement stuff in these now. Please keep these going, they are a great help to those of us who like to keep up on these things.

Kürama2 votes

Thank you for posting. :)

RiotA Small Man2 votes

Our pleasure!

EMOFRATPARTY2 votes

Thank you, thank you, thank you for curating content from the community. It's so easy to miss posts like the ones listed above, and for someone who can no longer be as active on the Boards as they would like I sincerely appreciate the compressed format.

Please keep this going for as long as possible and let us know if you need some assistance for nominating content!

RiotGogoUsagi3 votes

You're more than welcome :D! We really truly believe that these posts are fascinating and worth everyone's time, so it's really great to hear that you guys agree and are as excited about them as we are.

Our team has talked a bit about adding some sort of "submit content" feature, but we're still working through the kinks and figuring out whether or not it's the best option. In the meantime: We see comments as they get posted in this thread, which'll stay up till early next week, so if you see anything pop up after today, feel free to post it here.

(Awesome summoner name btw -- Assuming that frat house would have exclusively Elliot Smith and the Amumu song on loop)

EMOFRATPARTY2 votes

Heck yes, can't wait to see it all come to fruition!

(And thank you -- I don't know what Gogo Usagi is, but I enjoy that as well. Depeche Mode only. It is always raining during our parties.)

gg git diff2 votes

Vaynespotting is the best.

Puri Puri Taric1 votes

teric where ?

Puri Puri Taric1 votes

oh nice gankplank and missfuckune getting some hmm whats wrong with this picture ah rite teric still no update gg rito

Dorukon1 votes

Vote for a New rework for demonblade tryndamere at "Needed rework demonblade Tryndamere" i would really appericate it thanks for anyone who voted yes

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