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Why getting banned worked for me.

Drawrgon··42 votes·4,148 views

So, I was one of "those guys". I'd call you a noob, tell you all that you were doing wrong, explicit and all, and spam them pings. ... And then I got the ban hammer right upon my trolling little head.

This struck me real, real..... really deep.

Winning is not worth the enjoyment I get from playing the game at all. I would love to play on my main right now and lose every game! How did I change so suddenly though?

This is why I love Riot. This is why I loved getting banned. It made me realize that what I was doing was seriously not right. It wasn't helping anybody, and it sure as hell wasn't helping us win anyways. If anything, it was helping us lose.

I guess some people just need that whoopin' to understand what not being Toxic is all about. It's about being the opposite, no matter how delicious being toxic sounds while your adc is farming top while mid is getting pushed by 5 heads.

But being toxic will not make Mr. Lucian (this actually happened) want to come mid any more than he doesn't.

I asked him ever so nicely to come mid, and he did! Had I been toxic in nature, I woulda probably gotten a big finger, and no help.

Thanks for the ban Riot!!! <3

54 Comments

warpenguin5559 votes

Good for you. The games sounded like they got alot funner too

Drawrgon8 votes

Even losing has been funner. Just a good old "GG, wp".

Mikal Pikal6 votes

Yup! Just remember that you have actual opponents to worry about...no need to fight with your own team.

Drawrgon5 votes

ikr. Don't want a 1v9... that's grounds for loss any day.

slippykitten5 votes

Exactly. Because you are the problem. That lucian was doing nothing wrong by making you lose the game.

Wtf is wrong with this company and community that it supports the people ruining games and punishes people that want to win....

Drawrgon14 votes

The Lucian did nothing wrong, correct. He just didn't know what to do, and I would respond toxically. I understand that. I was the problem, but I've changed my attitude.

As for your second statement, the objective of winning isn't worth the devaluing of a person. This company believes in human kindness and patience and tolerance more than they care about the game. To me, that is a valuable quality and lesson for us all in life. Not just an online game.

Saltinc2 votes

In all honesty, Riot only cares about the money they are making from us lol. For example: they made a community based banning system so they wouldn't have to spend an entire section of their team devoted to reports, so as to make the game better and therefore make more money. Albeit, they do communicate better with the community than most other gaming companies do, but I really don't think they care too much about society as a whole.

But I do agree with what you have said. People need to just relax. League is a game for goodness sake, and there is no need to trash talk someone just because they are not as attentive or skilled as you are. Most people play the game just to have fun. I play ranked because it's really fun and I enjoy the challenge it presents. I take it seriously, yes, but not to an unhealthy level. And I also saw someone's post about "having a thicker skin" and that kinda made me laugh. Some people may not know how to create a thinker skin.

Bullying is a very real thing and cyber-bullying is just as hurtful as real life bullying, because words can hurt if said to the wrong person. Typically it's the mental bullying that does the most damage anyways nowadays, mostly because people are afraid of a good old fashion fight. Nothing wrong with throwing fists around, it's human nature. Or, if you don't believe in that type of thing, go to a gym or work out at home. Working out is a HUGE stress reliever, I know because that's my escape. My point being here is to find another outlet for stress, besides yelling at teammates or killing some stranger walking down the street.

Drawrgon3 votes

I'm not sure about you, but I can personally say that the people @ Riot are some of the nicest people I've ever met. They're personable, friendly, and they're all about people. Had the best time of my life @ the HQ in Santa Monica.

So you and your anti-capitalistic mindset have no place here. Yes, they're a business that wants to profit, but they're willing to implement systems that show their beliefs superior to their wallets.

UrpwnnedSon1 votes

I'm not sure about you, but I can personally say that the people @ Riot are some of the nicest people I've ever met. They're personable, friendly, and they're all about people. Had the best time of my life @ the HQ in Santa Monica.

So you and your anti-capitalistic mindset have no place here. Yes, they're a business that wants to profit, but they're willing to implement systems that show their beliefs superior to their wallets.

You sound like a homo. Can you stop please.

SgtSlaughterx1 votes

i laughed

Graiskye1 votes

The Lucian did nothing wrong, correct. He just didn't know what to do, and I would respond toxically. I understand that. I was the problem, but I've changed my attitude.

As for your second statement, the objective of winning isn't worth the devaluing of a person. This company believes in human kindness and patience and tolerance more than they care about the game. To me, that is a valuable quality and lesson for us all in life. Not just an online game.

Riot, cares about patience and human kindness, and tolerance, LOL LOL LOL LOL. Me thinks somone dropped a bit too much X. Riot is a company that is in the business of making money, monetization is what they live by. The rest of it is called PR. It is designed to make you feel like they really care about your feelings, your wants and dreams, but do they ? When LOL started Riot was a smalll start up, they could say, and it was believeable, that they were putting their heart and souls into the development of League. 6 years down the road, not so much, Riot is a company now, run by the bottom line. As far as your not griefing and being toxic, I dont know, I have seen literally hundreds of these posts, and many many times the playter returns to toxicity. Your so convinced of your 'conversion' it all seems a tad manic to be honest. I do wish you the best though, hope it holds, and I hope you continue to have fun playing League, it is a blast to play when the game is going as it is meant too.

Biffolo4 votes

This^ People need to get thicker skin. People are going to say things, its the internet, deal with it. If you care what other people on the internet say... I cant even imagine living life like that, must suck a lot, but its NOT my concern. There is a mute button, use it if someone is being a toxic prick, thats what is THERE for. The fact that people complain about toxicity in their games makes me laugh, because that means they are too incompetent to use the mute button.

Trinityunicorn5 votes

I can't mute you now........ You must be one of those that I need my thicker skin for. I'm not really an advocate for thicker skin because someone doesn't know how to talk decently to another human being. I'd even venture to say that a lot of thick skinned people make the entire human race a little less than.

Try to imagine at the end of your life, you get to review it. You get to see not only what YOU DID, but the effects of it upon others. Let's say you get to feel the pain you caused others. Of course you probably didn't know.......or maybe you did, maybe you enjoyed it, either way, its for sure YOURS.

True friendship and great relationships are fostered from love and honesty and kindness. That's what makes them valuable. I don't mind thinned skinned people because they usually are CONSIDERATE and more pleasant to be around, and also potentially good friends.

Biffolo2 votes

It's not a matter of KNOWING how to talk to a human being, its choosing how to. Some people dont treat others who are feeding or making poor decisions as human beings, which while i dont condone it, i understand that mindset.

Trinityunicorn2 votes

I don't condone it either, and while a mute button may exist to extend to the user a bit of help, one never uses it until AFTER the breech in communication and relations has happened. So they're already done the deed of dehumanizing the recipient to some extent, even if it only exists in their mind. So their right to complain about it still exists in my idea anyway, because it happened and the idea about complaining about it is that something can be done to rectify or lessen it even more.

Most of us would not choose to stay in the room with someone that doesn't consider us as human beings for whatever reason, because there would just be more dehumanizing to deal with. You can leave the game, but you can be slapped with a penalty <leavebuster>. Not only that, but although I can't prove it, I think that thoughts affect you even if you aren't in close proximity to the person thinking it. Just being in the room with an angry person w/o them expressing it, to me at least usually feels bad.

DrakoUnRama5 votes

"It's the internet" is no excuse to be toxic it's no different than in person there's still a person on the other side of that monitor who's either gonna get pissed and ignore you even more so or may actually be hurt by what you say I'm not one but some are including some I know and I'm not perfect by any means I spew toxicity every once in a while myself and have to apologize a lot for it and hope it helps a small amount to make up for it values are values and you not being face to face with the person is no reason to drop them.

Biffolo3 votes

But why should myself as an individual care about how pissed or how hurt they are? If they cant have the thicker skin, then they deserve whatever emotions. Im NOT condoning toxicity, people just WAY over react to it. And what if you WOULD say the same things face to face to a person, is it ok then? Because i have my outbursts, and i say nothing that i wouldnt say to a person right next to me, but many people dont believe that based on the content.

DrakoUnRama2 votes

But why should myself as an individual care about how pissed or how hurt they are? If they cant have the thicker skin, then they deserve whatever emotions. Im NOT condoning toxicity, people just WAY over react to it. And what if you WOULD say the same things face to face to a person, is it ok then? Because i have my outbursts, and i say nothing that i wouldnt say to a person right next to me, but many people dont believe that based on the content.

if you're as toxic at times as you claim and you would say the same in person than I dare say you are too angry a person letting a video game get you that pissed if you're at that point it's time to take a break no reason to get that worked up about anything in life let alone a video game and to say you don't care or they deserve it is just childish thinking of nothing but yourself and just so you know I'm not talking about the trolls I'm talking about people who are inexperienced or are just making poor choices in certain situations a troll is a whole other story although you still shouldn't rage at them it does nothing but give them a chance to get you banned instead of them leaving them still around as a problem and if they're not a troll then you just blew any chance of them listening and changing their choices for the better to possibly win the game either way being toxic doesn't help in any way.

Biffolo2 votes

Im just saying, ive seen moments where players have given up the game permanently due to others flaming them, and by technicality it does help. If these people consistently make poor choices for example, you CANT get them and have them make those same choices, which has the potential to improve other players winrates, just as an example. Also, who are you to judge what im allowed to get angry about either in game, or in real life?

Xuelixon3 votes

What good is it to win if one of your teammates has his/her feelings hurt? Everyone makes bad choices, but do we really need to bash on them for it? What good would that do? Just makes your team less of a team imo, which isn't wise. You might be having fun, but they won't.

Trinityunicorn2 votes

I would suppose if you had some 7 ft guy weighing 300lbs and you could say it to them w/o knowing them, then yes, you probably could say it to anyone. I can remember being at a party and this obnoxious guy was coming around messing with people, next thing I knew he was ko'd. This guy had thick skin who knocked him out.......he was just tired of the guy being a douche. The most interesting thing I've observed is that guys like that that CAN knock you flat, usually fight very little and seem to have decent dispositions........its usually because they have taken much less crap off of people because of size and ability to hurt you.

Biffolo2 votes

Id say it anyways, full well knowing id get my ass handed to me, its HAPPENED. I'm not really the kind of person who cares, ill speak my mind, regardless of the consequences. If i get knocked out, so what? That means that if he honestly cared enough to do it, ive gotten my point across, and thats all the goal ever really is, telling people how you honestly feel.

Drawrgon2 votes

You have to conform your expression to an extent.

Trinityunicorn2 votes

Well I'm going to say this, they call that the school of hard knocks. And you will do that until you don't. Sometimes those things that hurt instruct.

There are times when I say what I have to say, but I don't just say things w/o purpose and I would say I try to pick my battles wisely. I usually try to find the best way that I can to present it. I also don't disregard the consequences.

the goal ...is, telling people how you honestly feel.

The thing is, what we're talking about is not how one feels as much as how people are using words to harm. And there is a big difference. And its not always gonna be someone handing your ass to you, it might be the love of your life walking out the door......because although what you said might be true, the way you said it might not be well received.

Those are pretty extreme examples, I know.

OP had a light bulb go off an aha moment "I asked him ever so nicely to come mid, and he did! Had I been toxic in nature, I woulda probably gotten a big finger, and no help." with a reward!

Cubism4 votes

Good for you man. Faith in community has been somewhat restored in me.

Drawrgon3 votes

:) I'm glad. I just hope that my change of attitude spreads. It's playing on a whole different side of the spectrum, and it feels great.

Smite Infinity4 votes

I played like 2 normal games that whole week and received a ban.. I barely said anything in both of them. Now I will be unable to receive season rewards. R.I.P. diamond border.

Absozero2 votes

I feel your pain man. Unjustly banned here too.

Stexe2 votes

Yeah, Riot has been crazy with the ban hammer. People getting banned for "Negative Attitude" when they complain about trolls on their team. This is pretty ridiculous. They really need to bring back the Tribunal as I seriously doubt the community would vote these as punish (at least they never did before).

Mikal Pikal1 votes

I am assuming you were previously banned or chat restricted. They are much less tolerant if you are on "probation" from prior toxicity bans.

I am Madlife4 votes

Well dude, that's great. It's the people that don't realize what they are doing, and flaming and blaming everyone that gets on other people's nerves. I applaud you sir, I really do, for changing and showing that not everyone has to be the same person.

Thats Frosty2 votes

im just curious, but did you get chat restricted at all before you got banned?

Drawrgon3 votes

No. I don't recall. My friend asked me the same question, but i was never chat restricted. Also, winning almost every game.... Non-Toxic OP

Rustling Bush2 votes

i'm not sure if your just being sarcastic or really really enthusiastic.

Drawrgon3 votes

No, i'm actually quite enthusiastic. I just lost 3 games in a row, but I feel better having not been so mean to my teammates.

DrakoUnRama2 votes

if you want to think nothing but of yourself than you shouldn't be playing a team game that forces you to work together with 4 other people to win the match.....

Watch92 votes

Except, your one of the few people who actually significantly changed. Most people who have been banned just see this as Riot telling them to stop playing League and argue on forums that they didn't deserve the blah blah blah

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

I rarely see this. I see a lot of people asking rito for chat logs, since they don't want to give them out in support ticket for some reason.

Absozero1 votes

This isn't true. I was recently banned for saying f*ck twice and telling a yasuo and a sion that the deserve to lose because they kept going in 2v5 without our team. is that 2 week ban worthy?

Watch91 votes

Well, as most people say, Riot reads only some reports when they have time. Most people of league should be banned or permabanned. But riot is to busy to read the reports

DrakoUnRama2 votes

^ agreed and I'm sorry but a thicker skin imho is being able to take constructive criticism well not allowing yourself to be talked to like you're worthless and not care when you talk shit why do you think they would care to help win the game? It takes the same attitude you have about them taking your cursing to not care about the match and throw it just to spite you.

ps. you're wrong about that improving others winrates if all the bad players and people that make the occasional bad choice were to leave you may end up in their position yourself in the long run all games need players who are learning and even players who aren't that great but still play because they enjoy it or there would be no imaginary pedestal for others to put themselves on.

Biffolo1 votes

If it ever REALLY gets to the point where I am in that position where im consistently feeding, and being told this every game, id do the community a favor and stop playing. Id probably reroll an acc, and keep it low rank where i know i can sit and not be disruptive to people who actually have a chance at getting somewhere.

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

Hello bud, I honestly think you need to take a little more time when you are writing something like this. The grammar was struggling and I think it can be attributed to a lack of effort. It is either that or you need to type in your opinion into word so it can give you some help :). It sometimes gets a little hard to follow your logic if I need to read over it again because the sentence structure was lacking.

Rhyto2 votes

So you got your lesson learned it seems, good for you friend. However. if you are Permabanned? it's gone for good if just banned, eh you're fine. Just don't do anything reckless again.

DreamReaper1232 votes

Congratulations! :)

Gallowgrim1 votes

Good on you pard. Good on you.

EnternalXD1 votes

Well ive been banned 4 times for two weeks.. the last time i got banned i simply did not type a thing to anyone in chat for a week and a half but simple things like group mid and drag...and got banned once again i think riot just hates me ... i honestly dont know what to do anymore i completely changed my attitude and didnt rage at all anymore but that didn't work this system is obviously set to ban me every ban cycle.

DeftSky1 votes

Suckup lol

lol its georgie1 votes

haven't been banned once, but I can def say im more toxic than you will ever be, I plan to stay this way because I enjoy the thrill of making people leave games and actually become the guy that gets reported, trolling including of course hahaha. bummer tho

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