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Read the Chat people... -.-'

UltimateGargoyle··32 votes·3,349 views
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Ok, so I went in as Pantheon and called my lane with my best friend (who was on skype) that we were duo, we have gone Pantheon Leona combo in bot lane (we have gotten many wins with very few loses but that's not the point here) and then, Kog'maw locked in last, in which he didn't for x or y reason read the chat and immediately we were thrown in without a jungler.

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The moment I entered Summoner Rift, EVERY ONE from other lanes started saying how we were at fault with the whole thing. Immediately everyone was saying "report panth" and even though THEY didn't read the chat (not even giving a reason) they blamed us at bot. They started saying how Panth bot is 'stupid' (without a reasonable supp, then maybe) and that this was gonna fail, yet even with that, I was literally carrying the whole game as much as possible with my trustworthy friend. Everyone else though... well they couldn't do a successful thing. We lost, big surprise by how the attitude of the team did not work well with a fed top Vayne

Moral of the Story: Do not, and I repeat, DO NOT go in a match without knowing what lanes its called and whatnot. Amumu

Tell a shitty league match story here in the discussion and tell just how bad, if not worse it was.

55 Comments

kJs13 votes

That's sounds like the most oppressive kill lane I've ever heard of. Support Panth works but with a Leona? That's overkill...

BakedLotion3 votes

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That's sounds like the most oppressive kill lane I've ever heard of. Support Panth works but with a Leona? That's overkill...

You obviously neverfaced Leona + J4

blueberrypancake4 votes

There was actually a duo bot that managed to get to diamond by doing a Malphite Sej bot

That sounds like cancer

kJs1 votes

J4 doesn't innately execute you with crits though. not like Panth's stupid crit when you're below 15% health

DorkunedAuras1 votes

I've seen this shit, It's exactly as cheese insane as you think it is.

ahferroin72 votes

Zed ADC with Shen support is another crazy off-meta bot that works scarily well (assuming both people are actually good at their respective champs).

Occams Raiser1 votes

how does shen keep from getting his head caved in from ganks? 3 on 1 while zed runs off

UB3R 1337 H4X11 votes

I walk in to a lobby just to have 4 people auto lock champs and scream TOP in chat so our team comp ended up like this Top - Tryndamere Tryndamere Mid - Riven Riven Jgl - Vi Vi Support - Ryze Ryze ADC - MF (Me if you couldn't guess) MissFortune

Keevalroy2 votes

I love Riven mid. The only awkward part of that to me is Ryze sup, but I guess I can see it working.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Would probably go kill lane, like a Vel'Koz support, although you would bring more tanky-ness and CC with your perma-snare

ArkenStorm1 votes

i wouldve gone riven supp. that is sooo stupid to play against haha

Lowvyr8 votes

My friend locked Riven and said "top" in chat. He was first pick in draft, so the team had time to check the chat and see that he was going top. He had TP+Flash, too, so it was pretty obvious that he was going top as if Riven herself wasn't obvious enough (Yes, I know she can mid and jungle too, but she is best top). However, third pick rotation comes around, so the two people under my friend are now picking. One of them locks Tryndamere and says "Top". My friend was just like "What? I'm top." guy doesn't say anything else rest of chat. Third person on our team just sat there like "wtf" THEN LOCKS FUCKING Fiora AND SAYS "top" "wtf why are you guys going top I locked first" I end up going Bot and we get a duo top with Fiora and Tryndamere and my friend goes mid. We end up losing this game, because SOMEHOW top lost in a 2v1 to a Gnar. He got super fed and carried them hard then the top asshats blamed my friend for locking top AFTER them. They both then proceeded to flame each other for going top after the other one locked when my friend locked first and then they both locked right after each other. Claimed they "didn't see it in chat". I'm sorry, but that's not a fucking excuse. If you didn't see it, it's your damn fault, not your teammates. Don't blame you not reading chat on them. SO READ THE GOD DAMN CHAT

Nunya Bezwacks1 votes

they knew the whole time they were trolling you are stupid for believing them when they said they didnt see it

TheSlogs4 votes

Try dealing with auto lockers in ranked because they are first pick and they think that gives them all the power in the world. And then you end up taking a role that you aren't great at because you were supposed to be the mid laner -_- EDIT: I forgot to mention that they didn't put anything in chat. They just locked a mid laner.

Neckoe18 votes

What's wrong with them picking mid if they're first pick?

TheSlogs9 votes

When they don't say a single word in chat its an issue. They just locked a mid laner without saying anything. Sorry for not clarifying.

Sassmast3r1 votes

Now THIS I completely agree with. I have seen this in draft pick wayyy too many times, where people will choose a champion as first pick, then NOT say ANYTHING as to which lane they are going in. Having to make assumptions sucks, especially when AFTER THEY HAVE NOT SAID WHICH LANE THEY'RE GOING IN, you choose someone that apparently was the same lane they wanted to go in, and they proceed to say "Wtf I'm mid/top/bot lane, AFK"

Corvoo10 votes

The whole point of pick order is so that if you get first pick, you are pretty much guaranteed to get your best role. Learn all the roles so you don't end up somewhere you've never played because you were last pick.

ahferroin79 votes

This is exactly the attitude I hate, there is a chat box for a reason, you should communicate with your team to figure out who is best at what. I do agree however that people should at least be able to play all the roles before they start ranked, but that is no excuse for forcing the last pick to be a role that they aren't any good at.

Sinlaire1 votes

was on a 3 win streak yesterday. was first pick, second pick was my brother. we didnt do a duo bot but just locked what we wanted. team comp was working out fine, we had a decent set, everyone was calling out what they wanted.

then came last pick. it gets to him and he goes. "..... i suck at support."

thanks for calling out what you wanted and werent any good at.

sure enough. he REALLY does suck. bot lane loses hard, and the game that would have sent me into my promos is lost hard.

Occams Raiser1 votes

people act like support is a bs position. it is hard when done right. not jungle hard.... but hard

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Jungling is hard? I'm in like Copper III, and I can jungle, but laning... ugh.

Occams Raiser1 votes

Depends on what you mean by jungling. I** don't** mean how long it takes you to clear a wave.

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

I define Jungling as: Taking the monsters in your jungle Ganking for your teammates when they need it Securing buffs and objectives Counter-jungling Warding everything all to hell Protecting and destroying towers

People say that Jungling is hard... I don't see it. I can't mid or ADC worth a shit though. Top's good because it's just me and Garen having a cup of damn tea while everything happens everywhere else Support because I'm helping someone lane, not laning.

Occams Raiser1 votes

You have the right idea of jungling. You must be a jungler then? Why not play ranked?

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Yes, I'm a Jungle main. I'm not playing Ranked until I learn three roles (Jungle>Top>Support) with three champs per role, and finish building my rune pages. It's also kind of scary... ;-;

kJs1 votes

nooooOOO! item 3070

Eevee In A Jar4 votes

It's not forcing the last pick to a role they aren't good at. It's more like they were unprepared to be dealt a bad hand of cards. If you go in every game expecting you'll be first pick mid every time, and you only know how to play solo lanes, then you are going to have a very bad time. Especially since lanes like mid and top are heavily contested in all ranks.

Second, if you hate that attitude, then what about all the people who has done perfectly fine in that same system? You really don't need to "chat" with any of the other players. This game has been made that you can collaborate and cooperate with nothing but pings. You CAN get more elaborate in chat but usage of chat also has bad consequences in this game as chat is where most of toxicity comes from.

kJs2 votes

What he means by the chat is how people simply don't mention which role (if they're first pick) the are going to go to. Many first pickers just don't use chat even when other members are continually spamming quesitons about who or what role they will play in in the champ selection chat screen.

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Just to play devil's advocate, while I don't think you need to say something unless there is any chance it might be read wrong (ie going with tp on mid when tp is the meta top lane summoner,or taking gagne top or smite tp Hecarim in the jungle should probably all be mentioned to the team) it can be useful. Especially later in the picks if people are filling it may take a second to figure out what runes you want to run or masteries to use that are different from normal. It isn't a big issue but if you don't say anything at all you may have to carry harder when someone messes up and has a weaker lane bc of the disadvantage.

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

As opposed to what? The player higher in pick order being forced to play something they aren't good at? Personally I have picked stuff early that other people wanted and let them know if they aren't good at an open role go with a tanky utility champ in something that is open and try not to feed terribly and the people who have their main roles will carry them this game. I have definitely played games in an off role where I did okay, but got beat by someone who mained it and just had to trust that my team would carry me or I would make up the LP in a game or two.

Kuroi861 votes

You've both got a point, you should communicate in chat what you're best at, but you should also be prepared in case you're in a position where you have to counter pick or where you may have enough experience in another position where as no one else is sufficient enough to handle that role.

My preference is bruiser top or tank jungle, but I also have a variety of other champs I'm experienced with in every role just in case I get banned out or have to jump into another position. Heck it's the one reason I picked up Zed. Even if I'm not the strongest of mid laners, his kit is such that I can focus on farming up to try and be useful in the mid game when we start team fights.

PanterLily1 votes

No.

Sounds more team like, but it is not, sometimes an hour is not enough to settle this things, the crying just goes on and goes on. And half of the kids minimize the window and ignore the conversation's sound ping while chating of on facebook or watching porn; How many times have I seen - from captain: "I can mid and jungle" - silence - dude picks jungle, fourth guy comes in and silently locks in Warwick with smite, or indulge us with "wtf"s and "noob"s and "reatard"s...

You have pick order, you can see what the other team is picking (which is the most important thing in bans and picks) and you pick a counter with in the role that is left - not what you want.

As for the chat, its there so u can say "Im bad at ADC and good jungle" so who ever is confident(or not) at those can be at ease picking them or not, not for "I said first! retard!" and than spamming the chat with how the match is doomed coz the little spoiled snot didn't get what he wanted, so chat as less as possible.

So:

  • U state what u can do or cant do; not with "Want" or "I go!" but with "can" and "cant" and not a beep more.
  • Wait for u turn and pick what is available and what needs! to be picked
      • If u are first u pick what u want
      • if u are last u pick whats left and look at what the other team has; if u are bad at that role doesn't mean u have to feed.
  • And lastly u don't give a fuck who read and who didn't.

I know this way most often u will end up support, but that is the role that offers most variety, even some ADCs like Ashe can do ok supporting with their kit.

Occams Raiser1 votes

good way to lose a game

Elijah Prophet3 votes

What annoys me in normals:

I join and am the first to call anything (ADC Ashe). Top is called, followed by mid and jg; however, no one yet picks a champ. They all just sit there waiting for others to pick, or just hiding their true intentions. So, with 20 seconds left in queue, I lock in. The instant I lock in as Ashe, the other lanes besides support pick and lock in as well. Then, with 2 seconds left, my support picks and locks in as Lee Sin, a poor support role player. We draw first blood in the bot lane, with a double kill! Both kills stolen by Lee Sin. This would be our only successful endeavor that game. The consistent KS's got me too far behind, (which we all know is hell as an ADC) and the opposing Vayne got HUGE. Thanks to my "support," I end up being the one getting yelled at for being bad - even though I was forced into that situation. In fact, Lee was the one leading the BM.

My point: I truly do not mind breaking the meta in normals, practicing new things is what it's for! You just have to MAKE YOUR INTENTIONS CLEAR. Communicate with your team! Don't be sneaky and wait until the last second to lock in - I never would have picked Ashe in that situation had I known he wanted to be Lee Sin. Just use the chat as the tool it's meant for, and communicate with your teammates.

TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

I checked the match history and found two things. 1: I applaud Kog'maw for upgrading his trinket (along with you and the opposing Lux, Vayne, and Kalista). I especially applaud the use of Scrying Orbs by Vayne and Kalista. Because nobody wards at low elo. 2: I like the 3 minute ace. Did literally everyone lose 1v1 or 2v2 or 2v1 at the same time?

Arch Mage Magnus2 votes

Did Varus + Xerath bot the other day. Talk about poke. Poor Ez and Annie couldn't do a damn thing.

irokallebanna2 votes

I've gone against you and your friend once, bastards.... :P

ChromeFluxx1 votes

The problem is not the fact that you carried and everyone else didnt do their jobs correctly, it's the fact that while panth and leona is extremely cheese / bullshit / strong, it's only that way in the first 15 minutes. after that people start outscaling you. out damaging you, cc'ing you, peeling for their adc's and apc's. And eventually you can't do anything regardless of your full build because you haven't become a tank and someone replaced you as a true ranged adc. People HAVE to have an adc late game to win teamfights correctly. because adc's are the only tank shredders a team has. just because you built ad doesnt mean you can 10 shot that alistar before he can ult.

ahferroin74 votes

Couple of issues with this argument though:

  1. ADC's aren't the only tank shredders (Nasus, Vi, Urgot, and Trundle can all easily shred tanks if played and built right)
  2. Pantheon is one of the few melee champs who can be played as an ADC, it just requires someone who is skilled at it, and a really goo d support (Leona, Nautilus, and Sejuani (yes, Sejuani can be played as a support) being the best options for this).
  3. If the enemy team has no significant tanks, then being able to shred tanks is completely irrelevant.
ChromeFluxx1 votes

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Couple of issues with this argument though:

  1. ADC's aren't the only tank shredders (Nasus, Vi, Urgot, and Trundle can all easily shred tanks if played and built right)
  2. Pantheon is one of the few melee champs who can be played as an ADC, it just requires someone who is skilled at it, and a really goo d support (Leona, Nautilus, and Sejuani (yes, Sejuani can be played as a support) being the best options for this).
  3. If the enemy team has no significant tanks, then being able to shred tanks is completely irrelevant.

I completely agree with your third point. in that case, yes. i would think pantheon leona bot lane could work late game. But the fact remains you can still get out cc'd in teamfights if you dont at least build bruiser so you can survive long enough in teamfights

CISTERN1 votes

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The problem is not the fact that you carried and everyone else didnt do their jobs correctly, it's the fact that while panth and leona is extremely cheese / bullshit / strong, it's only that way in the first 15 minutes. after that people start outscaling you. out damaging you, cc'ing you, peeling for their adc's and apc's. And eventually you can't do anything regardless of your full build because you haven't become a tank and someone replaced you as a true ranged adc. People HAVE to have an adc late game to win teamfights correctly. because adc's are the only tank shredders a team has. just because you built ad doesnt mean you can 10 shot that alistar before he can ult.

This duo at bot can carry games only with 2 kills ( even if u kill 2 times the support), even if both of the kills go to Leona., then u zone them out with last hits and pantheon roams to win the other lanes or counter jungle or take dragons, this tactic is viable even with short amount of kills.

DrCyanide1 votes

As someone who frequently plays AP Ezreal Mid, I know that pain all too well.

FreshMeat7071 votes

That happened before, i ended up a Twitch jungle with no leash.

NOT FUN

Swollwonder1 votes

For some reason I thought our ez was mid instead of adc so I went ashe leaving us without a jg. I put on smite thinking "meh this could work", muted our toxic top and mid laner about my mistake and ended up getting five good ganks off before laning was over and by end game we had two adcs. We won. And my supportive bot lane laughed at our top and mid that game for saying we would lose solely based on ashe jg.

MeesterMoo1 votes

THIS HAPPENED TO ME THE OTHER DAY I WAS SO MAD!

Except it was a shen and a cho where the shen was last pick and didn't communicate and instead of cho taking one for the team and going jg he "stuck" with his role ( support with a duo vayne) we ended up losing because he didn't go jg,

I mean yeah its unfair and the Shen was the one who should have gotten reported, but in the end its about winning, and the cho obviously didnt want that.

Stellafreyja1 votes

I absolutely cannot stand when people don't call their position or call it as they're selecting their character (and instalock). Like, when I'm last, I call fill because I think I'm pretty capable at playing any role. But, as people are calling their roles, in my head I'm like "Okay, I'm probably gonna be [role], I'll select this champ." But if someone doesn't call what they want, I can't know who to pick.

Communicate with your team. I've had matches where someone hasn't said anything but everyone else has called their positions and we're like "What position are you going?" and then they call a position that's already taken...

I've seen people say stuff to new people like, "Learn 1 Champ and 1 Position and be good at it." But like, you need to learn how to play any role if the time comes! I like playing Mid and Supp, but I've also had to play Jungle a lot. Very rarely do I get stuck with Top or ADC.

Nunya Bezwacks1 votes

so what your saying is your to stupid to look at summoner spells and champs and see what's left? then dont play this game

Stellafreyja1 votes

You are aware that people don't always take the same summoner spells for each lane, right? Top doesn't always go Teleport, Mid doesn't always go Ignite, ADC doesn't always go Heal, and Support doesn't always go Exhaust. There's a variety of combinations, like Top lane taking Smite (and now AP Ez Mid taking Smite for Runeglaive). I don't know people's intentions when they select whatever summoner spells and it's not a good indicator of what roll they're taking. So please, take your head out of your ass.

FastAsHeck1 votes

thats why you teambuilder... seriously i dont get why you people still play ranked and blind pick. are you masochists? DrMundo

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