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Yasuo should get nerfed on the key stone mastery that can heal for 15% of your crit

richardqiqi··44 votes·2,597 views

I tried one or two games of yasuo one PBE, and found our as soon as I get some crit on him, I dont even need life steal to sustain. His crit chance are so high and the heal only has a 3 second cooldown where you can constantly heal for 20+ healh. Some change should be made, because this is an extremely high snowball potential.

Once he get a kill or two in lane( usual yasuo stuff), he can just go for full damage+crit while having extremely high lane sustain. This is just not fair for then opponent player, where there is just not outplay for this.

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TeCoolMage6 votes

Grevious- wait nevermind.

It's like having a mastery that gives me a Xin Zhao passive...

7ha7guy7776 votes

Does Warlord's Bloodlust also work on Anivia, Karthus, and Soraka "crits"?

Retillin1 votes

Good question!

Jingerbeardman3 votes

no, they are only highlighted in the damage text popups as crits because you successfully fulfilled their additional requirements, but after changes in the code they no longer are considered crits (for a very short time, if i remember correctly, they were considered crits)

Punkkee1 votes

YESYESYESYESYES OMG I AM SO HAPPY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THAT ANIVIA KARTHUS AND SORAKA'S ABILITIES AREN'T CRITS ABILITIES DON'T CRIT OMG TY I FEEL ABNORMALYL HAPPY RN

Kouga4 votes

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ABILITIES DON'T CRIT

Ignoring "empowered" basic attacks (Nasus Q, etc) or guaranteed "criticals" (Shaco Deceive, etc) Garen's Judgement still "can crit" and scales with his critical damage.

Zedex1 votes

Yes, but it says otherwise...So obviously its a known crit ability because it states it, lol.

Punkkee1 votes

well yea also gp q, idk about ez q i think it does but people tell me otherwise

Kouga1 votes

Yeah GP's is treated as an auto attack & can crit, Ez's procs on-hit effects similar to an AA but does not crit.

I was just pointing out that some abilities do (even though as Jetstream pointed out they will specify if that is the case)

Kazaashi1 votes

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YESYESYESYESYES OMG I AM SO HAPPY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THAT ANIVIA KARTHUS AND SORAKA'S ABILITIES AREN'T CRITS ABILITIES DON'T CRIT OMG TY I FEEL ABNORMALYL HAPPY RN

They are actually coded as Crits. Randuins reduces their dmg by 10%.

Riot may have changed that recently, but as far back as 5.20, they counted as Crits.

Audiomancy2 votes

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no, they are only highlighted in the damage text popups as crits because you successfully fulfilled their additional requirements, but after changes in the code they no longer are considered crits (for a very short time, if i remember correctly, they were considered crits)

Does Randuin's still reduce their damage?

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Randuin's reduces crit damage from Anivia, Karthus, and Soraka.

Jingerbeardman2 votes

pretty sure they fixed that a little while ago. I know it happened for a little while that randuins was reducing their damage but it got fixed later on down the line

Slamurai Jack4 votes

He's not gonna have the sustain at all until after the first back and even then it's not all that much since he doesn't do that much damage yet. And getting one or 2 kills in lane? That doesn't really happen at respectable elo's where people know how to survive Yasuo's strong lvl's 1-4. It's definitely not a bad mastery on him but you could easily make the argument for a couple of the other ones as well if you want a strong early game.

Avarice Aeon3 votes

Yasuo main here, gotta say that you have a fair point (though I've been skeptical of these masteries since I found out about them). Though, I don't think you should be worried about Yasuo with this right now.

Worry for Tryndamere

JedenVojak2 votes

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I tried one or two games of yasuo one PBE, and found our as soon as I get some crit on him, I dont even need life steal to sustain. His crit chance are so high and the heal only has a 3 second cooldown where you can constantly heal for 20+ healh. Some change should be made, because this is an extremely high snowball potential.

Once he get a kill or two in lane( usual yasuo stuff), he can just go for full damage+crit while having extremely high lane sustain. This is just not fair for then opponent player, where there is just not outplay for this.

Don't die to Yasuo. Problem solved.

ElegantDoge2 votes

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Don't die to Yasuo. Problem solved.

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Dunkrius2g2 votes

Or we remove it. Life steal is already so easy for the adcs to build. Adding another 15% on top of 15% for 500g is just stupid. Otherwise we gut yasuo and revert some nerf that yasuo had but nothing too major.

DogIsGod2 votes

Or, maybe since Yasuo is not the problem, nerf the masteries.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

His kit makes it not just fair for the opponent. He needed nerfed before this whole keystone mastery stuff came in and still does.

ARequestOfDeath2 votes

no he doesnt

Whiteeye Avelyn2 votes

Yasuo only doing 90% and his Q crits doing 70% So 15% of 90% is only 0.135% healing 15% of 70% is only 0.105% healing it really isn't that much i played with and against him on the pbe its not that big of a change its Meh at best only a problem if he just farms till full and in that case you can A.Kill him or B. Gank bot for a free double

Killer of Poros1 votes

Quick question, how strong is panth with it since he is guaranteed to crit while farming?

LankPants1 votes

Pretty strong

doombotMECHA3 votes

ok but TRYNDAMERE jesus christ that is going to be so obnoxious.

A Miss Fortune3 votes

I'm probably going to ban Tryndamere just because I don't like seeing him. He's so toxic and broken, he can feed all he wants but because he has 5 hour long immunity to dying he can kill basically anybody.

Akenero2 votes

;_; He doesn't do well vs tanks, I can tell you that much, try this out, next time someone picks trynd, go Malphite, and YOU STACK ARMOR Trynd literally cannot touch you, took 3 crits, he finally broke my shield...and had to ult to escape me(we were in curse call, opposite teams due to a dodge, funniest shit I've ever seen XD, and I didn't even chase)

SnugglePuggle941 votes

I ban Yasuo everytime I'm captain.

Chicken4dinner1 votes

It is quite obnoxious but considering the item changes it is more viable to build shut down on some fighter on tank... Idk really he has been swatted with the nerf bat so I would prefer changes instead (swapping stuff)

I remember the good ol days where your q would have a cooldown of under one second at max rank (thanks to attack speed)

Stars Shaper1 votes

"All AD carries are allowed to have 100% crit but Yasuo can't have sustain"

Flawless...

Karbuncle6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=WMKxETmh,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-11-05T09:53:43.764+0000)

"All AD carries are allowed to have 100% crit but Yasuo can't have sustain"

Flawless...

You're quite the idiot.

RengClaw1 votes

i agree otherwise yas would become a perma ban

TeCoolMage1 votes

Well, actually Anivia's E's highest damage when frosted is listed under "Largest Critical Strike" in the post game statistics for me.

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