How strong is the new Sion?

kkanaka··3 votes·1,683 views

I have always been interested in Sion since before the rework. And I've always wanted to see the lovable zombie be popular or at least not be so much as a niche pick. So how is the new Sion? Is he OP, UP, or just right in the meta?

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Hyrum Graff3 votes

What's the scanner say about his power level?

^that

kkanaka2 votes

IT"S OVER 9000

Hyrum Graff1 votes

That being said, I think that while he's strong, he does have counterplay, so it's OK that he's strong.

kkanaka1 votes

Can you think of any changes in the meta that would make him op?

Hyrum Graff1 votes

I can think of changes in the meta that would make him stronger: for example, if wombo combo comps come back into fashion, he's a very effective anti-splitpush champ, because his shield and waveclear allow him to defend towers easily, and his ult allows him to initiate from a different lane.

But I don't think those would make him OP - because you'd still be able to hear him ulting and retreat, and try to stall him and his team while your split pusher takes a tower, etc.

Junkο3 votes

UP, his ult is really easy to dodge and everybody can hear him, and his passive is just useless.

kkanaka1 votes

That's true his does feel a little underwhelming. Then again I've seen secure a decent amount of kills. Maybe if people use it a Jarvan Ult it'll be better

Junkο2 votes

His ult is pretty strong when used while on top of enemy team. Still his passive could have been better, but maybe it's really strong and we have no idea how to take advantage of it..

kkanaka1 votes

I think his passive works well for heavy dive comps like Aatrox and Zac. I also want to label it a snow ball passive cause if he's ahead the free stats from his passive may guarantee a few retribution kills.

Junkο1 votes

His passive AA dmg and AS is fixed, which sucks.

kkanaka1 votes

well at least it has 100% life steal and percentage health damage which is nice...

Hyrum Graff1 votes

Movespeed sion, is that what I'm hearing?

kkanaka1 votes

No...please no. Lets leave that kind of stuff to Voyboy, and Keyori to test out.

Theorchero3 votes

Sion is strong.

The people playing him are just retarded. He has everything in his kit he really needs to succeed, but he does have issues being kited in his passive.

That being said though, I haven't seen a good Sion yet and he's typically banned half the time in ranked because he's new and people will play him for the first time in ranked.

kkanaka1 votes

I can live with him having kiting issues. There always has to be at least one exploitable weakness. Well guess he's on the wait and see till people figure him out.

I Main Swain2 votes

I haven't played a lot of him, but I think hes perfectly balanced (only done jungle with him so far, planning on trying some top today). his early game is a little weak, clear not too good, ganks aren't great but aren't bad either, and Im sure with a little practice you could make them great. after lvl 6 he has incredible ganks, especially post-b-out ganks, and his clear is incredible once you get a item 3077. Hes meant to be built as a bruiser, a little more on the tank side tho. his passive is getting a lot of complaining but it really is perfectly balanced, easy to deal with most of the time. one of my favorite things about it is how his w gives him a huge shield, and its his main source of dmg despite being magic dmg.

kkanaka1 votes

AP Sion stil viable? hahaha jk. Last thing I want is for him to have a identity crisis again. After seeing him played a couple of times I like him better in the jungle. Nothing scarier than a rampaging zombie rushing out of the river.

Hyrum Graff2 votes

Nothing scarier than a rampaging zombie rushing out of the river.

This.

kkanaka1 votes

Yea I'm still not accustomed to his ult noise just yet. So when he starts his ult I'm alway wondering what is that noise. Then BOOM! BIG! MEAN! KNOCK UP MACHINE! In my face.

Little Squishy1 votes

To me he just seems like he needs a few QoL buffs. His passive is junk when compared to Kog'Maw as they have the most similar passives.

Kog'maw does not want to be in melee range at all, his passive makes him run into melee range and attack. Therefore countplay.

Sion takes roughly .5 seconds to transform and begin attacking. One slow from anything, and your passive is useless.
imo, if they changed his passive to being cc immune for the first 2 or 3 seconds, that'd solve a lot and give him a noticeable boost in power.

Other than that, he's fairly balanced and his kit synergy is top notch. His ult is highly mobile, while its easy to avoid the damage if you're quick, it also puts sion into a fight he was half the map away from initially. Its also a great initiate. Think like Hecarim ult interruption.

kkanaka1 votes

I think making him immune to cc for his passive would make him to strong, considering he has that for his ult. Gotta remember his free stats from his passive are pretty big. 100% life steal + the percentage health damage are very strong stats.

The only was to justify to make his passive immune to cc would be to take immunity off his ult...or to actually get rid of it and think of something new.

Aside from that glad to know that he has synergy. This promotes teamwork unlike his pre-rework style.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

If dead sion is still soaking cc while your team gets to beat on theirs without getting cc'd, I think he's doing his job.

7ha7guy7771 votes

He lifts

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