The Wishlist Function: Let's make this a thing.

Paulo Machinam··2 votes·840 views

Dear Riot,

After a recent patch, it has come to my attention that you are granting gifts to players who display exemplary behavior throughout the game. I thank you greatly for this, but this leaves me with two questions... you say that you now will be giving presents "at random"; how random? What I mean by this is, at what intervals will be able to earn gifts? Once a month, once a year, once a week? This leads me to my second question: why not add something called a "wishlist" to summoner profiles? Through my good behavior, I was awarded Kayle and her Riot skin, which I am grateful for, but... I mean, sure she was a great gift and all, but I would've wanted a skin for a champion I already owned. Or perhaps a champion that I actually plan on using... So, this leads me to my wishlist proposition. The way it would work is that summoners are able to mark items on the store (champions and/or skins, I presume) under their wishlist and, once they display good enough behavior for a random amount of time, you can select one random thing from beneath their wishlist and give it to them. In all honesty, I find this to be a pretty simple solution. As I stated before, I am thankful that you awarded me Kayle and a skin of hers, but I actually would have preferred a champion I actually wanted and a skin for either them or a champion I already own. I understand that this idea may be a bit far-fetched in certain circumstances. For example, we wouldn't want everyone being good and, ta-da, half of your player base has a Wukong or Lee Sin... I think? I don't necessarily know whether that would be a good thing or a bad thing, but that's besides the point. So basically, summoners mark stuff off the store for a wishlist and if you deem them worthy, they get it whenever you decide to give it to them... Again, I'm wondering what type of "random" intervals we're talking about in regards to when players such as myself gain a present from you. I act nice to people when I'm playing this game and obey the Tribunal, and I go by the saying "good people do good things without expecting anything in return", but I would still like to know when to expect to receive a gift from you if I am deemed worthy.

Thank you for listening and if any of my fellow summoners have any further ideas relating to this topic or would like to "vouch" for my idea, feel free to comment below.

10 Comments

BlackRage71 votes

This needs to be a thing!

Paulo Machinam1 votes

Hehe, yeah, I know. I mean, I main Blitzcrank and would have loved to get his iBlitzcrank skin. So then they say that "hey, be good for a [blank] amount of time, and you get free stuff!" So I go to my profile and find that I suddenly have Kayle and her Riot skin... I think this is karma. Kayle was actually the first champion I ever played intermediate with (I died about three times in the first four minutes _ _lll).

Lady Luck1 votes

I would love a wish list for different reasons... I'd like to be able to grant gifts to friends that they want randomly (and vice versa). If my friends had a wishlist I could see... Well that'd be lovely.

However, utilizing a wishlist to only get stuff from Riot could be weird... For example - somebody might only put Ultimate skins on their wishlist because Riot gives stuff out based on the wishlist. If they get their wish, it feels ill mannered compared to somebody that actually puts skins they want (regardless of price). And it seems backwards to reward greed while rewarding good behavior. If they don't get their wish (say Riot only wants to give out 975 skins) then they may complain about the wishlist being pointless and stupid.

Paulo Machinam1 votes

Oh, you are very kind for wanting to gift such things to your friends. I can understand your argument, but remember that Riot only gives out gifts at random... This would mean that the person who actually adds skins they want to their wishlist has an equal chance to get their wish in comparison to the person who only adds ultimate skins to their list. Remember, the whole system is a bit... random, I believe, so "fair" is a bit of an "uncommon denominator Heimerdinger ". So, what I mean to say is that I agree with you on your argument, but it is out of my control as to what Riot wishes to do. If Riot actually agrees upon my idea, I feel that they would actually be reasonable as to what to gift and when to gift it, similar to influence points. For example, if a nice player would want to get an average skin, it would take them, say, two weeks based upon Riot's judgement of their merit and the value of what they wish for. A player nice player who wants an ultimate skin would probably have to act nicer for a longer amount of time; let's say, a month or two.

So basically, ultimate stuff would probably require a longer period of "niceness" in comparison to average things. As I earlier mentioned, it is completely up to Riot's mercy, but I am simply presenting an idea I hope they listen to. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask and I will try to answer to the best of my ability.

Lady Luck1 votes

Ahhh now we're getting into making it less random. Riot rewards good behavior at random intervals and with random gifts because they don't want people to play nice until they reach the gift they want. If a a user can choose a specific skin to get for good behavior... They may try to just be nice until they get their skin. Then they lose the incentive to be nice.

Also, as far as I know, Riot's random gifts are given to everybody who meets the qualification at once (it may take a while to finish gifting in a wave. So there may be like a week difference or some such). They do not give stuff to a random person at a random time afaik. In which case waiting longer for some while other people get a gift can make people feel like they weren't being good enough as they were excluded from a wave of gifts.

I dunno if this is the case for you or if it was a different wave... But when Riot gave out mystery gifts to the people who got good behavior I think they gave Riot Kayle if somebody was not eligible for a mystery gift. In this case, the majority of players would have gotten a skin for a champion they at least own already.

Paulo Machinam1 votes

Meh, well, you have a point. My only argument is that if nobody is expected to be "nice" all the time, probably. Heck, I sometimes just don't feel like saying anything and just being a neutral helper. I give praise where it is necessary and wish my team luck and to be careful, but after doing this in such a cycle as I have, I'm not sure if it really constitutes being nice. I'm at least glad that you're saying that Riot's giving gifts in a... "random, but organized" fashion. I honestly find it a tad bit immoral that players would "play nice" until they get what they want and then get all types of toxic, but it's not like there is anything I can do it. I can only be nice to everyone all the time and expect them to hold a mutual attitude. You seem like a nice summoner, so I think you understand what I mean.

So, basically as I'm understanding this, Riot gives out gifts at random, but to several people at one of these random times, correct?

Lady Luck1 votes

Correct. And they may announce it. The first example of this was the Santa Baron icon. They've also mailed out signed posters to extra positive individuals, and I think they also gave out the Riot wards at one point too (both of those were unannounced and I just heard it through the grape vine.) And they did an IP boost at one point. The mystery gifting was announced a month or two ago? I'm terrible with time. The qualification for that was also explicitly stated as having received no punishment since the last random gifting session. And this is where they explained that they want rewards to be given randomly so people don't game the system. And they said why they like to change up what type of reward is given. Some people may prefer an icon, some may prefer a skin, newer players may see more value from the IP boost, etc. People may not like every reward, but hopefully the next one will be up their alley.

Paulo Machinam1 votes

Fair enough. Well, guess it's all up in Riot's hands now as to the entire gifting process. I would be a positive player either way, but it's nice to know they care and are awarding kind people. I'm also glad they changed the game so that people can't game the game, y'know? 'Cause if people game the game, then the gamed game would have been game gamers, and no one would want to play a game where the gamers game said game into their own gamed game... If that makes sense. XD Thanks for the help anyways and clearing this up though, Ms. Luck and happy gaming. ^ ^ I just hope Riot at least looks at this post and considers it, but it's good to know some nice and reasonable summoners (like you) are on my side.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

If any sort of wishlist function is implemented, there would probably be a minimum number of skins required on it in order for it to take affect. Otherwise many players would just abuse it and wish for only the most expensive skins, in order to save themselves money.

Paulo Machinam1 votes

Thank you for your input, but I went over this with Lady Luck below. Please understand that such expensive skins would require a longer extent of "niceness" and Riot only gives out gifts at random. I regret to say that I can't provide much of response because I don't know how Riot actually "works" in regards to their gift giving process, but this is how I envision it: you want an ultimate skin. Alright, since this is your first "gift", I'll give it to you in, say, a month. You want another? Well, it's gonna take longer to get it than your last "purchase". Let's say, two months. It would probably grow that way or exponentially in such a manner, but, as I mentioned, Riot is being "random" with their gift giving. Average skins probably would be obtained linearly; let's say, one skin every month.

So basically, let's say you get one ultimate skin in one month, and then another after two months, then yet another after three or four months. Common skins would probably be given once every month. So basically, more expensive skins are gained in relation to the time exponentially and common skins are gained linearly and predictably. First month, you get a common/expensive skin (depending on your wishlist). Second month, you get another common skin, but you'll have to wait two months if you wan a more expensive/ultimate skin.

...Jeez, explaining all this time stuff is making me feel like Zilean , but feel free to ask further questions if you are still confused.

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