Banning KaceyTron

8x3··53 votes·6,675 views
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She does nothing but troll i know twitch wont do anything but plzz get rid of this girl she makes all streamers look bad and the girls most of all and i took a pic of her just ignore the game and not paying attetion to her team at all plzz league does not need her plzz do something about this or at least watch her and u decide

67 Comments

PonderousSealion32 votes

Nobody will take you seriously when you type like that.

Austin Covello20 votes

Oh good grief.

Look, banning Kaceytron has been suggested countless times. Nothing's ever come of it. Plus, I need to play defense lawyer with a couple of points:

  1. She's been getting better, at least from a KDA standpoint. I've seen plenty of games where she did, in fact, make substantial contributions to her team. Hell, she's been posting HIGHLIGHTS of her making substantial contributions to her team. When she does that, her stream actually becomes watchable.

  2. She keeps her BS in low bronze. 90% of low bronzies aren't getting out no matter what, or just barely play ranked to begin with. As an aside, I've seen the rise of a new type of "gamer grill": The "just another pretty face" streamer. IOW, instead of boobs, they have the cam focused on their faces. They're attitudes are just as bad as Kaceytron's, if not worse. And the main difference between them and Kaceytron, they have a high ELO carry them to Gold (and sometimes higher) from Bronze, and they feel that they're entitled to it just because they're a bit pretty. Ambita1 is a perfect example of a "just another pretty face" streamer on twitch who got carried to Gold V from Silver V, trades on her looks, and whines like a spoiled brat every time she's on stream playing the game. Hey, say what you want about Kaceytron, at least at the end of the day, her character gets her comeuppance by remaining in Bronze.

So yeah, I realize that this isn't a popular sentiment, and it's probably going to get downvoted like crazy, but I don't say what's popular. I say what's true. If you really want to hurt Kaceytron, turn your ad blocker on and ignore her. Don't give her money with hate-mail, don't subscribe, and don't follow. Then she'll go away on her own because the money will have moved on, no banning required. And honestly, her schtick is getting old. When she goes into full-on troll/griever mode, I just click the back button. It's just not funny anymore. I'm surprised anyone bothered to come on here and complain about it at this point.

The A lister7 votes

So its ok to do a crime even when it not big everyone should be J walking bro No one should be above the rules or riot. Idc about the boobs people criticizing about it dose not know that artist and actors does the exact same thing as she is. So there is nothing wrong with that I DO have a problem with her feeding in game intentionally because that she should at least be suspended. Some random bronze guy trolls and gets ban, but Kaceytron dose not.

Remlap12232 votes

Well, I mean, if the automated system has taught me anything is that trolls don't get banned, but telling a troll to fuck off? PERMABANNED!

MrSexyHobo3 votes

trolling is hard to prove. verbal abuse is really straight forward

Sîcarîus6 votes

It's ok because she does it in low bronze? So it's ok if I run around acting like I have down syndrome as long as I'm around people with down syndrome, cause hey, they aren't going to amount to shit anyways, right?

I can't believe I'm about to defend bronzies, but for the love of God, even they deserve to have a fair shot. The difference between them and KaceyTron is simple: They aren't good at this game. KaceyTron might not be great, but she's obviously capable of playing a lot better than she is. She's giving no effort in a mode geared towards competitiveness aka ranked. This is why NA scene is considered such a joke. People see nothing wrong with KaceyTron's actions, and they think it should be allowed. Well that's why you see so many trolls anymore in this game. They don't give a flying shit because they know they can troll and ruin your day, which won't get them banned - where as if they actually care and say something not-so-positive, they will get banned.

The double-standard on this game drives me insane. At least you'd all be good politicians, you know.

I urgot about it1 votes

I feel if bronze players try to improve with strategies, then they will get out of bronze easily. People like kaceytron is just one person in their game, she won't really cause any harm. If she entertains thirsty 13 year olds then good for her. This is coming from a girl, she only is one type of girl that plays league (attention whore)

Crayola Sky1 votes

I was fully in agreement up until you were like "she keeps her bs in low bronze." Which I know this account is Bronze something but my other Ultra Helpful is Silver 1, hopefully Gold if promos go good.

The reason I say this is because I don't really think rank should represent how much leeway you have to be toxic. "Oh you're bronze you can be 5x as toxic as Platinum, because no one cares!" feels like the wrong mentality.

Also I really don't like Kaceytron. But I respect her business. I find her far more tolerable then Pink_Sparkles. (From a Twitch standpoint)

Tasty Sweets14 votes

OMG YES PLEASE SHES CANCER Awful "cam girl " Shes not even worth looking at with the two sand bags aka "her two assets"

TurquoiseYoshi8 votes

Gonna have to agree with you here. I really don't like her, nor any other cam girls. The fact that her logo is a rip-off of the Brazzers logo is a quick indication of how bad she is.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

That is a logical fallacy, logo's have nothing to do with skill or good-ness.

Remlap12233 votes

I really don't give a shit if you suck at League but stream, as long as you have an entertaining personality.

Kaceytron's "personality" is her boobs. Nothing more. She's an obnoxious troll that gives female gamers a bad name, and I don't give a shit that she's doing this as a parody. Doesn't change the fact that she's trolling games.

I also find it interesting that Dunkey gets banned for being toxic despite his status, but Kaceytron trolls, which is worse than being toxic, and she's still kicking today.

Troll for Trump8 votes

Oh sure ban drunkey and all the white knights are like "hahahaha he deserved it" BUt ban a troll? Nope people will just defend women(or bash them) and the feminism riot will come.

Austin Covello16 votes

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Oh sure ban drunkey and all the white knights are like "hahahaha he deserved it" BUt ban a troll? Nope people will just defend women(or bash them) and the feminism riot will come.

How exactly is saying that drunkey (sic) deserved to be banned white knighting? Total non sequitur, man, but "white knighting" is defensive in nature. Who's being defended?

And if Kaceytron does get banned, I'm not going to complain. But I'm not going to petition for it, either. Seriously, I've got better things to do with my time. She's just not worth my effort.

Jari1 votes

White Knighting would be saying that Riot has done nothing wrong. They would come up with every possible excuse for anything that says otherwise. Example: They'd say that release Xin wasn't actually bad because it was good for the games health to see how scary things are. They were just testing our players.

Seeing my point?

Troll for Trump5 votes

They pretty much said RIot did nothing wrong when they banned dunkey. Yeah dunkey shouldve got banned but so should the troll. He's not banned(the troll)

Jari1 votes

More reports are needed. Intentional feeding is harder to do because sometimes a player could just be having a bad day and ended up doing poorly. I've gone 0/15 before without intending to. Should I be banned over that? Give it time.

And plus, the Malphite wasn't even the game that got him banned. It was a later game.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Dude. There was a recording in that video. Of him running down mid lane turrets. IN ranked. On purpose. He's not "doing badly" if he's suicide bombing down mid lane.

Jari1 votes

And does a robot watch videos all day? I'm not saying the system is correct, nor am I saying that the Malphite should be free. I'm saying that they need more data. Let's say that they just start jumping the gun and just ban anyone they assume in intentionally feeding. Sure you'll hit some feeders, but that makes people more and more afraid of playing poorly and stresses them out. I already get screamed at when I go 0/3 by my entire team. Why should I have to worry that the system would ban be for it?

Data needs to be collected. He'll get punished if he keeps it up. Why is that hard to understand? And like I said before, the Malphite game wasn't even the game that got him banned. At least, that's what we got from Lyte, who won't show the reform card since Dunkey isn't and is respecting that.

Troll for Trump1 votes

You can take screenshots of things and send them to riot to get ppl banned, you could probably embed a video to do the same

Jari1 votes

It counts on the same level of just reporting them.

Troll for Trump1 votes

source?

Jari1 votes

I've often sent in tickets with pictures to help show the problem. As a note, reporting in the launcher attaches the game logs (NOT pre or post, that's where a ticket shines.) It handles the same weight since it's doing the same thing a normal report would do. A ticket in would only be better if you have pre or post game information that you need to send.

On Your Side2 votes

She's not intentionally feeding. She's not being toxic towards her team. She's not smurfing to exploit low elo players. She's just playing bad on an elo with bad players. You might not like her stream, but that's not a reason to ban her either.

On the subject of women and female streamers, I suggest you watch her input on Dropped Frames. She's quite respectable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nsEs2qbJVU

Sîcarîus5 votes

LOL. KaceyTron is anything but respectable. Her form of comedy is the lowest form. It's a shitty excuse for satire, and yes she does break rules. Every time she's sitting in base for longer than 30 seconds, you can argue that she's "afk". It would be no different than me saying, "Well I'd rather watch this youtube video than to finish playing out this game". Secondly, KaceyTron isn't as bad as she plays. It's 100% obvious that she puts little-no effort into this game, which is fine for normals and such, but should NOT be tolerated in ranked play - especially on stream. HotShot got bitched at by Riot for insulting his teammates via stream, but KaceyTron doesn't even get a warning for afking or intent feeding? And yes, KaceyTron intent feeds. You'd only have to watch her stream for a couple minutes to realize that.

On Your Side1 votes

You misunderstood me, I said she's quite respectable on the show Dropped Frames where she's being sincere and offering solid opinions in a mature and serious debate with other female streamers. Of course her Stream doesn't paint her persona as respectable, that's part of her stream's... uhm... charm.

You're raising a lot of issues here with subjective opinions. Let's just begin with the first you raised. Should people be banned in the game for their streaming content? You took HotshotGG as an example, but Hotshot is involved with the e-sports team Counter Logic Gaming which means Riot can ask him to uphold some level of professionalism because the team is contracted and has to abide a code of conduct. Kaceytron is just an individual and all of her "offensive language" is contained on a third party platform that doesn't actually affect any of her gameplay and she's in no way representative of professional League of Legends.

Your second issue is where the line starts to get reeeaaally blurry. What does it mean to play bad intentionally and how punishable should it be? Is it not playing as good as you think she could play? But now you're not dealing in something objective, it's subjective---you're personal opinion. This isn't something League's system can actually detect and prohibit. That would require a moderator to actively investigate that player's behavior in-game, which would bring about a whole set of new problems. You can't just single her out as you have to rule on an actual policy enforced on everyone.

Kaceytron is smart in the sense that she's using the systems in a clever way that allows her to be provocative without crossing any lines. The thing to understand here is that Twitch has a much lower standard than League of Legends does, there's more tolerance and room to build a personality. The way you should be looking at it is to mute her stream and only look at her gameplay (however hard that is when she fills half the screen with her boobs), then you can see how she actually behaves in-game and it's not as border-breaking as you make it out to be---it's purely her Twitch attitude which drives you to think she's being toxic/intentionally feeding.

Both Twitch and Riot know about Kaceytron and she does get really frequently reported (especially on Twitch) but both Riot and Twitch has estimated that she works within the boundaries of the code and won't ban her because of the player hate on her (something about minorities and singling people out---you know, professional ethics). She's not breaking any rules like you claim because she would have been banned ages ago if that was the case (unless you're claiming Riot intentionally ignores her, in which case I'll reward you a tinfoil hat).

Ralik0982 votes

But dunkey did deserve his ban... He literally told someone that they should be killed... And that is only the one instance he decided to show us on his video, trying to justify it with "but the guy was trolling" is not ok.

LCS DoubleVision1 votes

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But dunkey did deserve his ban... He literally told someone that they should be killed... And that is only the one instance he decided to show us on his video, trying to justify it with "but the guy was trolling" is not ok.

So lol? It's freedom of speech ... what because it's against TOS all of a suddenly it's morally wrong? Tell me sir.. if freedom of speech is so wrong why did people die for it? No what the problem is people "PRETENDING" to be offended by these things to get people banned.. if someone told me that I should die I would laugh because wtf do I care what some no body on the other side of the internet thinks?

Sensitive.. it's this generations new trend.

Troll for Trump1 votes

I said he deserved to be banned, hoollyy spooks. But the main issue is with people who defend the troll, saying he should be banned later. The troll caused dunkey to be toxic. Both should be punished, but the troll should be punished first, or at least at the same time, for provoking the donkey.

I urgot about it1 votes

We want to ban her, this is what this is about

Troll for Trump1 votes

I said that she should be banned, read below

LegendmakerGX7 votes

There is A LOT of virgins on twitch/league How do I know and why do I say that?

Anyone here know Jennythesquirrel ? First time I went on twitch to just watch random streamer on lol and I saw her dancing. She had over 1000 views at the moment so I was like hey she must be a pro at league or be interesting but looking up her rank she is silver 4.... barely talking about anything that has to do with the game or life.

She wears shirt that push up her chest and looks like bra shirts to tell you the truth. Also she will dance if she gets a certain amount of sub a day.

Kind of sad how much Virgins I see watching girls stream over their body rather then their game play or personality.

NOTE: This is not to all the girls who stream, People like Remi I respect because she shows skills and not wear revealing clothing on purpose to get views.

Remlap12233 votes

Not really a good example because HE flashed HIS dick on teh 4chinz.

Volibear "There's no such thing as chicks with dicks. Only guys with tits."


In all seriousness though, she can go by whatever pronoun takes her fancy, but don't pretend that Remi hasn't done stupid shit either.

You want a good example of a female streamer? Jaynee. Another one? SunnySplosion. A third because you're petty? LilyPichu.

WhiskerWow4 votes

Kaceytron is a troll, but its the character she does. Its all satire. She's a comedian that takes advantage of her breasts. If you read her AMA, her posts are surprisingly intelligent. You can't really prove she's a troll, but she's definitely not taking the game seriously. She will also just make another account if she gets banned.

Remlap12233 votes

Well, that gives the Bronze players that were stuck with her some time to actually not play with a troll.

Seriously, I don't fucking get it. You guys on the boards are willing to decapitate a player because they told someone to uninstall, but trolling is a0ok apparently.

WhiskerWow1 votes

It's not ok, but it's pointless to ban her. That's what I'm saying.

InvaWalker5 votes

She is a comedian that spreads negativity through trolling. It doesn't matter that she gets no kicks out of trolling itself.

Also, you say she is a troll outright and then retract that statement. It's almost like you're making excuses for her.

WhiskerWow1 votes

She should get banned, but it won't actually make anything better, because she's playing League to troll and for satire, not for the gameplay.

If she gets banned, the news will spread online, she'll get publicity, she'll make a smurf and title her stream "Climb back to 30", thousands of viewers will harass her about the ban and donate.

Even worse, there's no way Riot's automated system will be able to detect that she's feeding on purpose unless she messes up and says something like "gg i'm feeding", so people will know she got special treatment from Riot and got selectively banned.

KafkaBrother3 votes

going to use the dunkey argument here.

Trolls need to be banned out of "RANKED" games. i am not saying perma banned from the game itself... but i think it would do alot for the community if they just lock these people out of ranked for periods of time.

If you think its a Character that Kaceytron puts on .. and shes smarter than this.. then she should be punished for knowing what she is doing and how much it is pissing people off. i am glad she stays in the lower level of bronze..

but now to Dunkey... Speaking the way he did is what he does. thats his 'Character' and he was punished for doing that.

i believe in perma muting people and Dunkey should have been one of those people and this would not be an issue. i also believe in excluding people out of a ranked environment if they dont want to actually improve.

there are hours of the night i have to stop playing when the quality of people is going down.. -they are tired so they make mistakes [either too many hours on or that they just need to sleep.] -they are self medicated [dunk or other] and still decide to play making the night really difficult to play in.

But dont white knight her because of a one sided view. because she is taking 4 other people with her on this road you call a 'character'.

yes i laugh when people get harassed on television (nut shot videos and people being dumb) but i laugh because i am saddened by society and laughter makes the pain go away. but i laugh harder when the the person stands up after getting 'pranked' and he beats the piss out of the person that thought what they where doing was funny. thats what i call a happy ending and my faith in humanity is restored just a little bit knowing people will fight for common sense.

Ophelmark4 votes

I just noticed by that pic she names her donors White Knights.LOL.Well at least she knows her cuc...audience.Fizz Shit i just remembered another similar streamer.That chik that has upside down crosses in her face.One time i was seeing her and there was a time she couldn't fake her act anymore.And started laughing.

LionelLeon3 votes

in case u didnt know, she is a troll. her job is to look shitty and do shitty stuff, thats how shes getting mad money

Cyis2 votes

I stream on twitch and I'm diamond 5 (got there myself, no duos or anything), to be honest if you aren't a pretty face or got big "assets", you aren't getting viewers as a girl. So I can't really blame most girl streamers. When I stream I want people to ask me questions about the game or watch because they are interested in the actually game. Instead I get weirdos asking me how much water I drink a day.

Remlap12234 votes

But isn't that why Twitch was banning them? To give other girls (and guys) a fair chance? I don't see why banning someone taking advantage of boys' biology is a bad thing. If Twitch actually stuck to their guns, they'd get a lot more variety of content and more viewers instead of a softcore MyFreeCams.

Slamurai Jack2 votes

Honestly, if you're playing in Bronze 5, the line between trolling and just being terrible is pretty blurry. Let's get 1 thing straight; if you are in bronze 5 for an extended period of time, it's because you're really bad at this game, not because of trolls.

HN Benkku2 votes

There are enough thirsty males throwing their money at her and drowning her in gifts. How about one of them buys her a proper shirt that doesn't completely reveal her.. ahem, frontside?

Problem solved.

Trash MammaI2 votes

Is she a troll? Maybe (she's actually really bad as well) Is she toxic? Yes Is she smart? Hell yes.

I don't like nor do I care for Kaceytron, but she's a genius. She's getting a shit ton of money by playing a game she's terrible at and doing what everyone hates by simply showing not even a quarter of her wind bags.

It may be disgusting and degrading as well as make her look bad and have haters, but she's well aware of that. Haters that post stupid threads like these expecting to get banned just give her more publicity. If you want Kaceytron gone, stop making ads for her with threads like these. Ignore her.

She's making insanely easy money. You can hate her and dislike her but you have to admit she's smart about it.

If you dislike her enough though, do as I do and ignore her very existence. I recently had a friend ask me about her and I told them "Yes, and I don't care about anything you have to say regarding her" friend told me ok and moved along.

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TNHA Baritone2 votes

She isn't smart. When did making money become so difficult that you're considered intelligent by doing so? She shows cleavage and gets money. That's by luck.

Nahara2 votes

IIRC, the persona that KaceyTron plays on her stream is a satirization of air-headed female streamers (the kind that point the camera at their boobs and such for views or donations, and yes, not all female streamers do/are like that, some of them are really cool).

Make of that what you will.

Divewing1 votes

Well I mean you could.... but she's really only using league as a gateway. I don't think the point of her stream is to show off sick plays. If that's ban worthy sure whatever, but it's all just an act. I don't really care what happens to her, never watched her, probably never will, but make sure you are banning her for a proper reason.

Remlap12233 votes

Trolling isn't a proper reason?

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