Hold up- Leaver buster though

20thLvlVillager·Jun 25, 2015·2 votes·389 views

Can we all just take a moment to go back to the overly harsh leaverbuster system? As far as i can tell, riot has gotten overwhelmingly negative feedback for the leaverbuster system implemented late last year from people like me with a bad computer/connection and people seeing flaws and extremely overly harsh aspects of the leaverbuster system. I love how they said they would only ban you for leaving multiple games in a row, and then give you low priority when you leave one game and another game two freaking weeks later. Why the hell hasn't riot done something about this or taken it down after the up roar about it?

5 Comments

MacDthreeJun 25, 20151 votes

There is no way to please the masses. The same people that rage about getting a low priority queue because their internet crashed are the same people that cry about somebody going "g2g. dinner ready" There is no way to tell the difference between the two, and in all honest opinion - the best way is to punish both. Yes it's shitty. But I think a majority of the community will agree that it's better to stop the raging afk's and the "oh I g2g" than to let them continue just to cater to people with shitty computers and poor internet. I say this, but yes. It's happened to me before. I ended up with a several day ban because my internet kicked me out of 2 ranked games, a day apart from each other.

20thLvlVillagerJun 26, 20151 votes

There's a perfectly easy way to distinguish between the two, at least with higher degrees of accuracy. This is chat logs. Lets first note that, from what I've seen, rage afk is extremely rare. I see it once every several weeks and i play, usually, 2-4 games a day. I'll also say the same about the "Oh, i g2g"'s. Honestly, read through Lyte's responses on boards. He's just far too keen to give a giant middle finger to players. (especially when all of these issues were raised to him on the initial post and he ignored all of those comments)

SmokedAlmondsJun 25, 20151 votes

because every time you disconnect from a game due to your bad computer/connection you waste at least 20 minutes of 9 peoples time and make them all happy leaverbuster exists.

The name Leaverbuster, imo, is misleading. It is just as much to stop people with bad connections/computers not just rage quitters.

The fact that you even refer to your leaves on the scale of weeks suggests you are having way to many problems. You need to fix them before queuing again not just hoping that you don't DC from your next game.

20thLvlVillagerJun 26, 20151 votes

So, the fact that I drop one or two games every two to three weeks is too many problems? I believe you may have misread the OP.

If the standard is consistently perfect internet connection, then that standard is too high. I described my computer as shit to show that the "grace period" is too short, because not only does it take 3-4 minutes to restart because the client keeps crashing, but (and this one isn't my fault) getting the client to load takes fucking forever.

The people who are trying to play and do their best but can't keep consistent connection are not the problem. They are especially not the problem when it isn't even the leaver buster system busting them, it's a "delayed leaver buster system" that busts people for leaving two games in the span of a month. (this has happened to me)

SmokedAlmondsJun 26, 20151 votes

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So, the fact that I drop one or two games every two to three weeks is too many problems? I believe you may have misread the OP.

I read it correctly. One or 2 leaves every couple weeks being a problem depends on how many games you play in that time. Leaverbuster seems to mostly be concerned what percentage of games you have 100% participation. Its not 1 or 2 leaves a month is acceptable, its like leaving 1% of your games is acceptable. If someone playes 5 games a year and leaves 3 of them they aren't treated the same as someone who plays 500 games a year and leaves 3 of them.

It sounds like 2 leaves a every couple weeks is a very high percentage for you. By your own account you play 2-4 games a day, so say 3 average. thats roughly 90 games a month or 23 games a week. So if you leave 2 every 3 weeks thats 2/69 or 2.8% of your games. That seems small but if everyone left that much basically 28% of all games would not be 5v5 all the way through.

If the standard is consistently perfect internet connection, then that standard is too high. I described my computer as shit to show that the "grace period" is too short, because not only does it take 3-4 minutes to restart because the client keeps crashing, but (and this one isn't my fault) getting the client to load takes fucking forever.

The standard is not perfect internet, but a reliable connection is required. An AFK is detrimental to a game. It basically means its over and thats 9 people who just had their time wasted because you queue up knowing you have a crappy connection/PC. If your crappy computer causes you to leave enough to get punished then it is not good enough to play league of legends on.

The people who are trying to play and do their best but can't keep consistent connection are not the problem. They are especially not the problem when it isn't even the leaver buster system busting them, it's a "delayed leaver buster system" that busts people for leaving two games in the span of a month. (this has happened to me)

Its not an either or thing. Rage quiters and people with connection/PC problems aren't separate problems, they are 2 parts of the same problem. Its something I guess that you aren't doing on purpose, but by queuing knowing you have problems you are being selfish and disrespectful to the other players.

Hoping that you don't disconnect is not an acceptable solution.