A Kick Button for trolls in Champ Select??

AzureBlazeEdge··5 votes·794 views

TL;DR: We need a voting button to kick trolls in champ select so people don't have to give up LP dodging or suffer a minimum 20 minutes.

Hey everyone,

So this is something I was thinking about today after a queue I felt an overwhelming need to dodge when it became apparent there were duo'd trolls in the room, out to make the night poor for people trying to climb the ladder. After dodging (and I waited to see if anyone else would), I thought to myself, 'It sucks to have to take the bullet. But it would suck for anyone else too, and those guys just get their way.' And then I thought about it: What if there was a voting button to boot players from a room? Naturally it would have to be a majority rules (like all 4 of the other players would have to make this vote) unless it was a duo (in which case 3 players would be majority and it would kick both). I know there are likely some inherent flaws to this idea, like people abusing it, but with a majority system, it might be easier. I don't feel people would abuse it as groups of 4 in solo queue. While I would love to see this in norms too, it makes more of an impact to solo/duo queue because of the loss in LP, and so having a 5 minute time ban, while it sucks, is not as bad as losing LP, and due to the serious nature of ranked vs the laid back nature of norms, I could see it being a problem there. In addition, where you can only be up to two people in a ranked game, in a norms you can be a group of 4 and vote that 5th off until you get someone you like, so it really has no business in norms/the casual play area. Lastly, the button if it is felt that a player/players are abusing it, can have less frequency in ability to use in some fashion? Maybe upon unsuccessful kicks, the number of times you can use it in X period of time is reduced by one? And this is just an idea. Thoughts?

Riot if you see this, would you mind enlightening me on it's flaws from your point of view? I am just brainstorming, and would like some feedback to go back to the drawing board with. Please and Thank You.

14 Comments

Envy Sin1 votes

People suggested it years ago, The issue is.

Trolls would abuse it like everything else.

AzureBlazeEdge1 votes

Trolls would be unable to abuse it if the limitations were set and if it required a majority vote.

Envy Sin1 votes

So a 3/4 man premade is unheard of.

Sometimes i get almost exactly the same team in ranked. Not often but it happens. And who knows maybe i could talk them into kicking someone.

People that played anything but top tier would start getting kicked.

If you got a bad champ select you would talk people into kicking that guy that took mid from 3 of you. (Let's be real, How many mid mains are there?)

AzureBlazeEdge1 votes

True, but if let's say a duo is there, and one of those members is a troll, and you click kick, the duo partner was unable to vote, and the other 3 do feel he is a troll, then is that not enough?

And that is why I propose limitations to the use of the 'Kick' button. Think of it in the whole Strategic Diversity Philosophy. If I were to tell you that you get a kick button, and you could use it, let's say 3 times a day (pulled that out of my ass). Knowing that you at least occasionally get people who are outward trolls in champ select, would you squander your kicks on every player who wasn't playing the meta?

Now let's say you did do that. Do you think every other player in champ select is going to waste their precious troll-be-gones on a non-meta player? I would like to think not. Especially considering most people in this community are stubborn as hell and it is hard to get people to listen to you.

And LOL I concur. There is a disgusting amount of mid mains. I don't know why. XD

Envy Sin1 votes

If you limited it to say 3 kicks a day then i can see it working.

Good King Derp1 votes

The people playing ranked are elitest enough without giving them a kick button for anything that isn't on mobafire. it would Stifle creativity. Maybe just a find a new queue button? (This is why I don't play ranked)

AzureBlazeEdge1 votes

Not everyone is elitist, and it isn't fair to generalize. And again, this is why you set limitations to how many times a person can utilize the kick button and that it is a majority vote.

Nox Fleuret1 votes

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Raptamei1 votes

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No we don't need said button, there are more people claiming false trolls than there are trolls themselves. You can easily test this by going something that is not perceived as META and watch as everyone screams troll the whole match or dodges.

Trolling isn't the problem, it is closed minded douches and baddies who are the problem. They come into games looking for someone or something to blame for their lack of skill and intellect.

People want to win. Your selfish pick is only fun for you while your team has one more thing to worry about.

Nox Fleuret1 votes

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AzureBlazeEdge1 votes

I am not saying people should not have freedom to choose who they want, merely that for the people who are actually troll, there is a way to circumvent the loss in LP.

AzureBlazeEdge1 votes

But that is why I suggest it be a majority vote, and there be limitations on the frequency of button use. If it takes four votes to kick, there is a good chance not everyone will pick against it if they aren't actually troll. And by setting limitations, people will pick and choose when to use it and when not to.

Killer X 121 votes

As long as it needs 4 votes to kick and cannot be done by pre mades.

AzureBlazeEdge1 votes

Exactly! If it's a duo then the duo vote does not count.

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