Zac skins??

Aieaman··21 votes·68,271 views

Dear Riot, Please don't think me rude, and I doubt you'll even read this but I figured I'd try since my new year resolution is to stay positive. May I ask if you are gonna make a new Zac skin? I feel like he is left out. he's been out for awhile and has one skin. He can have so many opportunities if you give him a shot. Bubble gum Zac, Super Gooper Zac, H2 Zac aka water Zac, Jello dessert Zac. but he needs some loveZac

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RiotRiot Fairy Flan13 votes

disclaimer - Zac skins are a hot topic and we are not able to answer any questions about -when- a skin is coming out or is in the works (or any other skins). I'm here to perhaps shed a little light and let you guys know Zac is not forgotten!

Definitely don't think you're being rude! What I can tell you is that Zac's champ and stretchy tech is very difficult to work with, and that alone increases work time on him a lot. So using a popular community skin suggestion for him, Gentleman Zac - his clothes especially around his arms would have some crazy weighting and stretching issues. And it would also be really weird to see cloth stretching and turning into globs of goo haha I'd love to hear any suggestions on workarounds you may have to mitigate this!

I know "easy" recolored skins have been suggested for Mr. Blob, but then it would seem unfair if say we released a 750RP Bubblegum Zac and have him wait a while for another skin instead of taking the time to make sure we make a super awesome blow-your-mind quality skin for him.

Amish Psychopath5 votes

what about this skin? you could simple allow the shorts to reside inside sac during his ult. since he is a blob his cloths should be able to exist inside him right?

RiotRiot Fairy Flan9 votes

That's a good example! Besides the addition of the swim trunks, it's technically just about a fancy blue recolor though. :x The fanart done of pool party Zac include some cute arm floaties - which I like, but that would again cause problems with his stretchy arms! > n <

Summer is coming up for the Northern Hemisphere kinda sorta soonish (brr, that 50 degree California winter weather!). I can definitely make an extra poke about a skin like this! ^This is not a promise that this skin is going to be made! ; u ;

ChimeiTekinaNasu2 votes

Is that Pool Party Ahri I see in that artwork?? O.o Above Zac. I think that was another popular wanted Pool Party skin along with Zac. (Though she's already gotten 2 new skins since those, so I guess less chance for that =C)

ForPortal3 votes

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The fanart done of pool party Zac include some cute arm floaties - which I like, but that would again cause problems with his stretchy arms! > n <

It shouldn't, actually. To make Zac's arms stretch, I assume you are using a deformation gradient that defines how much each vertex follows the movement of the skeleton during the animations.

If pure red means following the shoulder end of the arm "bones" exactly, and pure blue means following the wrist end of the arm "bones" exactly, you just pick a particular shade of purple close to the floatie and make the entire floatie have that shade in the deformation gradient. Like this:

ForPortal3 votes

Basically, what I'm saying is that it's even easier to make the floaties work properly than it is to make them stretch strangely, because all you need to do is "forget" to add the gradients that would make the floaties not move as a solid mass.

5G8Nri0B5414 votes

Considering Zac's unique gooey appearance, how about a special "several simple skins for the price of one happy fun time Zac skin"-bundle?

And by simple, I mean literal recolor. For instance, making a pink Zac rather than trying to do anything to make him look bubble-gummy.

I mean, his base texture and appearance might look cool in a variety of different colours with little changes, like "White Zac", "Black Zac", etc.

I don't know your client works, but if it's anything remotely close to Warcraft 3's editor, changing colour should be rather simple. And it's simplicity may allow you to create a bundle of cheap Zac skins sold at the price of one.

Do note I'm not suggesting you do this for all champions, or anyone other than Zac. I mean do this bundle for Zac and literally just Zac as his nature would make a simple recolor look really cool. Much cooler than say..."Garen in Black Armour" that's for sure.

Saixos9 votes

Actually, going a bit further with this, a lava lamp zac skin would be really epic without being too difficult to make - zac with lava lamp-ish texture overlay, and he constantly slowly shifts from one color to another. Or alternatively, paint bucket style zac where he switches to a different color whenever he picks up one of his blobs, and his blobs drop in the colors they'd change him to and are paint bucket styled

ZombieRapGod2 votes

I was about to post something just like this. it would be cool to be able to have him in different colors until a really cool skin can come along and this idea is a lot better as well. being able to just make him different colors is such a cool idea an simpler than going all out until a skin like tht can be made.

Masterjlam2 votes

one of the best ideas I've seen in a long time!! since the day I've purchase Zac I wanted to see him in different colors because it would be cool and why not. seriously though, THIS BUNDLE NEEDS TO BECOME REAL!!!!

Selegun2 votes

Sorry I'm alittle late to this party. Would a Mecha or Battlecast skin be within the realm of possible options? Mechanical parts can stretch out using pistons or expanding metal plates and his globlets could be changed to power cores, scrap metal or nuts and bolts piles.

RiotRiot Fairy Flan5 votes

It's definitely possible, but a Mecha/Battlecast skin would mean we would basically have to re-do every animation he has (among other things) so that the metal pieces don't look stretchy while he undulates around > u < (and add extra animations for his little pistons and stuff!) If you check out videos of Zac, the mass of his goo sort of shifts itself all over his body, and that might look strange translated to metal :x

EDIT: Not saying it can't be done, but a skin like this would definitely run into a lot of issues and would probably be a legendary skin :)

Selegun4 votes

Hmm, if stationary parts are a problem would something like Magma or Clouds be a bit more texture friendly?

RiotRiot Fairy Flan5 votes

Definitely much easier to work with than metal! Not sure if people would think a Cloud Zac would be too intimidating, but a Magma Zac would look pretty cool o u o! Oh man wait, it could be like a stormcloud Zac and he can cause some lighting and thunder effects for his abilities :O!!

GaleWinUnleashed3 votes

Actually, I've had this idea in my head for a while for a new kind of robot Zac. He could be composed of a kind of glowing hextech core, surrounded by a large number of metal shards and plates held in place around him by a magnetic force to form his body. This would give him a thematic way to keep his passive and his model-scaling-with-max-health mechanics without stretching (heh) things too much, as he could theoretically incorporate any random pieces of metal he finds into his body to increase his size.

EDIT: I think I might post this idea as its own thread sometime soon, with more detail.

Ehkrickor4 votes

I saw a Ferrofluid Zac idea, would basically be a black semi-reflective Zac but more spikey. IF you really wanted to make the Ferrofluid all out you could make his blobs kinda "magnetize", with an animation that the top of the blob becomes pointier and moves to point at Zac as he gets closer but is just a blob like his green ones if he is farther away.... i dunno just throwing ideas at the wall.

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

Any mechanical skin for Zac would have to be Legendary tier at least, considering how much model work would have to go into that. For me personally, that's a huge plus (I would absolutely buy any Legendary or Ultimate skin for Zac), but it also means that it would be quite some time before any such skin could be released.

DynamiteGazelle2 votes

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I know "easy" recolored skins have been suggested for Mr. Blob, but then it would seem unfair if say we released a 750RP Bubblegum Zac and have him wait a while for another skin instead of taking the time to make sure we make a super awesome blow-your-mind quality skin for him.

Oh, you mean like you did for Evelynn who hadn't had a skin for 4 years? All of her skins are pretty much just recolors and have no unique particle effects, so a plain black body suit isn't much of an upgrade :P

Sorry, I know this is a Zac topic but I'm still salty :P

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RiotRiot Fairy Flan6 votes

I understand the salt =/ item 3070

He is not forgotten, but to compare making skins for Eve vs Zac is like baking cookies from a package vs from scratch!

DynamiteGazelle3 votes

I think i might have misrepresented my complaint. Im upset because you admitted it sucks for champ to get a 750 skin because they then have to wait much longer to get a good quality skin, and that is exactly what you did to Evelynn. After waiting 4 years for a new skin, all she got was the 750 safecracker skin which Im sure anyone would admit is quite plain, so now she will have to wait much much longer for another chance to get a skin.

It just sucks because 2 of her 4 skins are pretty much recolors, and the other 2 are just alright at best, and none have unique particles or anything. Maybe she'll get treated right when 2019 comes around..?

Lol, didn't mean to hijack this Zac thread, and im sure I'll be downvoted into oblivion, but the feels are real

Nothing personal! Just sad that this was the direction that was chosen for my main :(

TendajiX7 votes

Cloud zac where he is a cloud that shifts between clear, snow, rain, and thunderstorms where he would turn grey and sparkle with lightning. his blobs could be clouds that also shift of not, or they could by rain drops. i like this guy's idea of the rainbow behind him when he hops but that would be for the rainy one and it would shift between an arc of lightning, snow, a rainbow, or clouds(or air). I would pay any amount for this T_T plz rito plz

Magic Juan2 votes

For Gentleman Zac what about having him wear a suit vest instead of a jacket, then his arms would be exposed and could be their normal gooey, stretchy selves.

timearcade2 votes

What if the clothes looked painted on instead of Zac wearing actual clothes?

The Ecdysiast3 votes

Gentleman doesn't sound like something I'd buy. Now just putting an innertube, some trunks, a kiddie scuba mask and some bubble sound affects with a blue texture, people would buy.

SuitedSS2 votes

diarrhea Zac, when his passive is popped he turns into a toilet and 4 blobs of poop are trying to get back into the bowl, thats all I got but I find that really funny

OTPTyler12 votes

pls new lava zac skin

Raritits6 votes

Some random ideas I had:

Cookie-Dough Zac: His blobs would be chocolate chips. Furthermore, when killed by ignite with his passive down, his corpse will bake into a delicious cookie.

Battlecast Zac: Dropped blobs would be oil. Limbs wouldn't stretch, rather they would mechanically extend somewhat like Blitzcrank's arms. When dead and ulting, he and his blobs would be that silvery goo stuff the Terminator 2&3 antagonists are made of.

Mercurial Zac: Zac made of mercury. Sort of like what I suggested above, minus the battlecast.

Pool Party Zac: A giant, Zac-shaped water balloon. Blobs would be water balloons obviously. I picture this skin to be more cartoonish or gag-like, if that's the right way to describe it. Would be humorous like Surprise Party Fiddlesticks.

Rainbow Zac: Because Lux. Seriously, liquid rainbows. Would puke rainbows on death with passive down. Needs a better name though.

Corrupted/Void Zac: Ferrofluid. Need I say more? Would definitely need the spiky effect. (This is what ferrofluid looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL8R8SfuXp8)

Lady Septimus2 votes

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Some random ideas I had:

Cookie-Dough Zac: His blobs would be chocolate chips. Furthermore, when killed by ignite with his passive down, his corpse will bake into a delicious cookie.

LITERALLY BEST IDEA EVER Q>Q

Aieaman5 votes

Magma zac

Aieaman5 votes

Ice cream zac maybe add a cone to the head for funny effect and when passive goes of have the cone in a puddle like when a kid drops ice cream

BigTub5 votes

I hope its not to late to shed some ideas on a Zac skin. I would pay a lot of money for this skin pls Rito. http://mattcomgo.deviantart.com/art/Spooky-Zac-and-pumpkin-Teemo-403362242

Barvaz4 votes

How about Arcade Zac? That he is all made of pixels like in the game Tetris! :)

Aieaman3 votes

Bubble gum hero zac ;D we all know so no need to say

Aieaman3 votes

Nimbus rage Zac :D

z3yko3 votes

How about something like Mercurial Zac or maybe focus it on elemental stuff such as magma zac or a Blob of blood could be cool xD

ruben47103 votes

majin zac we all want it

Bilbo Bagger3 votes

I think he should have a volcanic skin item 3751 Zac item 3751 . It would go along with the volcanic wukong and didn't rammus have one too? I don't remember cause i think it's gone now. But it would be pretty simple...I think. He wouldn't be just red and fiery, he would have a constant texture flow- I'm thinking arcade hecarim's tail, but it would look like shifting lava. His little blobs would be little lava blobs that could slowly turn black as they decay or "cool off". When he launches into a fight or jungle camp his wind-up could show him scrunching together and his mass could form what looked like a little volcano and he could shoot out of it lava explosion style - or that could be his ultimate. I doubt I'm the first one to think of this, but if anything maybe give RIOT an idea that more people would want this. Upvote or comment with ideas of improvement! item 3751 Zac item 3751 Zacitem 3751 Zac item 3751 Zac item 3751 Zac item 3751 Zacitem 3751 Zac item 3751

Sarutobi2 votes

Zac and jinxs need their second skin I would hope after this set of PBE updates and that those hit live we get a new skin for these two!

xu1D7eJdSi2 votes

An idea I had that's like a recolor but kind of cooler is for Dark Matter Zac, where his coloration is of space and whatnot, but as he moves around the map it's like his outline is moving over a stable background?

For example in this gif the outline is what moves over like a stable background. Could be kinda sweet on Zac!

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

Similar to how Kassadin's weapon and Malzahar's Null Zone break into the void, and as they move or you move your camera, you can see them sort of sliding?

Aieaman2 votes

Still yet Riot, we thank you for listening. And we trust that when you make a Zac skin this year ;D it's something to call grandma for. DO YOUR BEST RIOT XDZac

Lafouboy2 votes

Honestly, if you put the time and effort into making a type of candy looking Zac skin (think Dark Candy Fiddlesticks) where he is made of out bubblegum and other candy bits, I am sure I would love that skin. It could be so different looking while retaining the original Zac animations.

Nyxilis2 votes

Yeah, I understand it's hard to work on Zac, but I think what he is made up of is really what you should consider. Magma, sand (shurima version), or cherry slurpee, but you guys really are ignoring the possibility of inserting things into him.

You could put a human skeleton in him with a viking helmet on top, congrats freljord version, make him water like and fill him with swimming fish and give that skin comments with Nami.

Judge Unlucky2 votes

Where is spaghetti monster Zac at?

Aieaman2 votes

Thank you so much everyone for the Zac love and support

Kujo ofthe 6Ways2 votes

RiotNurseFlan, what do you think about a Sand-based zac? "Sandcastle Zac" "Zaccastle" i think a sandy skin would work smoothly with the stretchiness. I could whip up some fanart for ideas? He would be just picking up little piles of sand :D

Gunpoint2 votes

I really thought he'd be first in line for a Chroma pack. Seriously, why Nemisis Jax over him?

Lady Septimus1 votes

Why not try using different textures? LIke sand could "stretch" and it would look like a cool texture. Maybe something like sandman zac or hourglass zac

Why can't you just make the clothes stretch as well like how Mr.Fantastic or Elongated Man look in the comics when they stretch? :/ I honestly don't think it would look that weird, and you could either opt to leave the globs regular green or make it at least be the same colour.

RiotRiot Fairy Flan5 votes

Oo, I like the idea of really changing his texture to sand.

What looks good in comics doesn't always translate well to game models : n ; He is sort of a hometown superhero in his lore though. Would be cool to see him in a superhero suit!

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