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OKAY, I'm sick of this playing as a support;

KailaTime··68 votes·6,759 views

So I recently started playing Leona. And by recently, I mean I have played 3 games with her. This last game, I went 7/2/16 (Usually as a Support I play Sona so it's more like 3/2/2397834876534)

BUT, I took care of my ADC, mid-laner, jungle, etc. I helped with Dragon, used Relic Shield to heal my ADC, stunned the hell out of everyone who came NEAR me so others could grab kills. We won by a LONG shot.

And still, the Zed mid laner on my team was bitching almost the entire game that I was a horrible support, KSing, etc.

As someone who runs a mean support game and LOVES this role, this is the WORST. I am not trying to KS anyone, in fact I don't even believe a "ks" is a thing. I will try to secure a kill, yes, I want our KDA to be much higher, yes. I will ward, trap, stun, CC, do everything I can always to make sure MY team gets those kills. If that happens to be me when nobody else is in range (Leona's E), who cares?

I am just incredibly annoyed by the harassment that comes from being a support who gets kills on occasion. Mind you this Zed went 12/2 to me 7/2...no idea why he was such a jerk.

JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPORT DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A KDA OF 0/0/231874623

143 Comments

Alljoy53 votes

There's a mute button, that you should make sweet sweet love to.

Especially if you're a support/jungler main.

xInkredible11 votes

If there is one thing Riot has ever done right, it's that beautiful beautiful mute button and if your looking for someone to talk to you should find an adc to sup with cough cough

dustaMaphone6 votes

i am going to have to start using this wonderful feature.

Firu3 votes

{quoted}

There's a mute button, that you should make sweet sweet love to.

Especially if you're a support/jungler main.

I try to main both these rules. This is what you need to do. ( ^ ) Mute. People will complain a majority of the time. Sometimes they will be right, sometimes they will be wrong. They will almost always be rude. The rudeness is what impacts my play more.

I Main Swain2 votes

honestly, the only 2 reasons I don't just always mute everyone are that A) sometimes there are things that you cant communicate with pings and it makes strategizing way easier and B) sometimes you get those teams that are just frikin awesome in the chat

Mecha MaIphite28 votes

Alistar Whenever someone accuses me of KSing when my score is something like 2/2/15, I knock enemies away from them on purpose to make sure they don't get any kills.

Raja Chachki14 votes

I love you, please never stop doing this

Only Play Darius2 votes

^^^^^ What he said, word for word.

Ariel the Cruel8 votes

I don't run Cow personally. But you'd be amazed by the troll potential on the peel queen. Janna

Keevalroy3 votes

"Oops, lagged and messed up the combo."

KailaTime10 votes

EXPLAIN TO ME WHY ZEDS ARE JERKS?!?!

Ligerzz6 votes

Sometimes other laners on your team won't enjoy the support getting the kills. They say that it isn't worth it, that they don't need the extra gold. Some think that they will just waste their gold instead of the "carries" being able to get one of their core items. Personally, i do think that they should get the kills to get their power spike, but kills really only matter to get early pressure on that lane. If they are above in CS, then they are doing fine, as they have a lead in gold.

The hate towards supports is seriously not needed for. The support is heavily relied on by the marksman, and one accident or misclick can get negative behavior aimed at you. That is why i make use of the mute button:3

Spacesuit Spiff10 votes

Yep, seeing people whine about support scores is hilarious. 3/5/20? Feeder your score is negative. 8/3/20? Stop KS-ing noob. Doubling their cs? IDIOT SUPPORTS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING FARM! they screech, even though it's from your relic shield (yes I have seen this). 0/10/20 but your sacrifices lead to 4-for-1s every time? Easy for a rager to ignore. Sadly this is the role that can't be summarized by numbers, so if people want to hate there's no stopping them from making something up.

I think my favorite example of this is when I took support when last pick wanted it and during loading he looked me up on lolking. "Wtf Leo your KDA is so bad shoulda let me support. 4/6 is shit" "4/6/28?" "stfu noob" Said the guy who thought he should ever be allowed to support.

Only Play Darius4 votes

Outside of the laning phase the support is free to farm all they want unless someone on the team is far behind. And anyone who doesn't know how a relic shield (IMO the best support item) works doesn't deserve to have a computer capable of running league.

BeatzBoyFTW10 votes

I have been a support main for a long time, and believe me, it's certain ADC mains who ticks me off, especially those who plays Vayne. She deserves nerfs for the majority of their toxicity.

Spacesuit Spiff7 votes

{quoted}

I have been a support main for a long time, and believe me, it's certain ADC mains who ticks me off, especially those who plays Vayne. She deserves nerfs for the majority of their toxicity.

Haha, I once had a Vayne tumble into Braum and try to melee him to death in the middle of the wave. When she died, she intent fed because "noob support gg".

I imagine someone at Riot was as some point like "hey maybe we shouldn't take the class that's most infamous for players with massive egos and create a champ aimed at making adcs think they're god if they can manage to not do anything stupid during earlygame".

Vesarixx7 votes

Dravens are the worst that I've run into, if you're new any rage you get from an ADC is completely misguided, I had a game a while ago on a brand new smurf account a while ago, had a Draven do basically what you're describing, and then call me some things in all chat before going AFK, I then solo'd the lane as AP Nami and we won the game 4v5, all he would have had to do was sit there and farm. Point being, just ignore the rage, they're just being idiots, if someone dies in league it's no ones fault but their own.

ooom7 votes

Couldn't agree with you more. Every single time I play as a support to a Vayne adc. It always ends up with a nagging adc. When I play team builder and see a vayne I just find another match.

Only Play Darius9 votes

As much as i hate the "LOL 1v1 me scrub get carried" attitude of the typical Vayne player, please don't judge people based on their champion preferences. I have played with a number of vayne's who were respectful to their support and humble to the enemy team, it was a pleasure to play with them. Please give people a chance before you pass them off

SecretAgentHulk11 votes

Every single Ezreal player ever sucks though. Just saying.

junglerboy164 votes

Especially if they have Pulsefire Ez... only seen 1 with that skin win.

Sadistic Cheese2 votes

Hate to say it but I have to agree. I don't know so much that it's the players, but it seems like in general there's this curse around the champion. At least for me.

Got an Ezreal on the enemy team? He's Doublelift-grade god or he's gonna get stupid fed somehow.

Got an Ezreal on my team? 0/12/2! Good job, Ezreal! No, no! I TOTALLY understand you whining about where's the team when you were splitpushing when we were all dead! It's cool, bro! You got dem mad jukes! you can surely outrun that Kassadin that's been hunting you for sport ever since he roamed once and killed you and you raged in chat!

It's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering dodging the next time I see an Ezreal.

Twilit6 votes

I hate when people do that too, my mentality has always been, 'As long as someone on our team gets extra gold for that kill, it's fine.' And with that, I've never minded someone accidentally or intentionally taking kills, and I normally get a little salty when someone does complain about it.

KailaTime6 votes

I agree with you all. It's just incredibly frustrating because I usually main ADC, I enjoy the Support role more than any other role BUT it seems to catch SO much negativity, if I'm having an off game and don't do as well, I'm horrible, if I'm doing REALLY well, I'm KSing. It's just silly. As someone who plays ADC more than anything else, I am SO happy when I have a great support who is doing well and helping me farm, winning lane, etc, and ALWAYS am positive toward them, I also never fuss about kills because I know if my support is doing well, my kills will come. Wish more people could stop being giants jerk faces. I should make sweet sweet love to the mute button, and I appreciate the suggestion.

Alljoy2 votes

As someone who mostly plays Sona, I know the feel.

Only Play Darius9 votes

When I play ADC and my support gets the kill, I tell them it's alright. I'm just happy to be winning our lane, if we dominate our lane then the kills will come to us like it's nothing, always works out like that.

Alljoy3 votes

It honestly does work out because a free lane is more than just the kill bounty. It's more lane pressure, more farm, more vision, more push potential, a window of opportunity to ward or nab dragon and a turret.

But nope.. 'muh kda'.

Rock Rockburgh2 votes

You missed one, actually. Getting a kill means less farm-- for the enemy!

ooom6 votes

RITO should highlight support players from LCS and release more and more support champs. This way more people will start playing support.

Wullf6 votes

Some time back I went Braum and had 8/5/28 got no flame

But I had a nice laugh. Also I stolen a dragon with braum, while having dragon slayer braum. So I proved my skins worth.

Hell Week4 votes

just mute them bro.... haters gonna hate. Happens to me allllllll the time, KS doesn't exist in teamwork.

ChrisB54 votes

Here's what ks'ing would be: I was playing Xerath. I poked Annie down to one auto attack. Charging my q, akali flashes to steal. That is a ks.

In other situations, ks'ing is a term used by noobs to validate their own score. If someone is 0/8/3, and says you ks'd, they need to realize they should have been involved in more kills before using that term, and stop feeding the team.

Rock Rockburgh4 votes

If they only have three assists, then you couldn't have "KS'd" more than three times. Compared to their eight deaths, that's nothing.

ChrisB51 votes

Yea lol, yet I remember in my earlier days, I'd get shit like this ALL the time. Especially for non-adcs that have fewer assists than kills... who scream 'ks!' it's like... dude, this is a team game lol.

Rock Rockburgh4 votes

To be fair, supports are generally chosen because they can be useful WITHOUT kills, whereas other classes will often scale better WITH kills. So there is some room for complaint there; it would have been better if the other person took it. However, "support gets kill" is far, far better than "enemy walks away with 10HP."

SecretAgentHulk4 votes

I always tell such people, "Look, I'm the support, I'm building almost total utility, very little damage. If you can't get that kill, that's your fault, not mine. Kill harder."

AJStarhiker4 votes

The first kill as support (Especially if it was accidental) I'll apologize. The response I get usually determines what i do later: some varient of "that's cool" and I'll stick to the player and keep going. If I get raged at, I'll start looking for the first opportunity to abandon him and start supporting another teammate. Might be petty, but I'd rather my buffs and cc help someone who's going to appreciate it.

When I don't play support, I try to keep my jungle and support happy. If they get a kill, I get to free farm. If I have to back and jungle had come up to help out, I'll tell him to grab some of the farm. I mean seriously, that extra gold will help him get his build faster

iamthegoatofwar3 votes

Yha when I play adc I tell my supports when they score a double good job. You see heres how it works. ADCs get most of the farm on bot lane. Supports get...assists and jack shit besides that...so they're behind on gold. However if I give say leona/braum kills they become a terrifying tank not afraid of CC. I give kills to nami/sona we get another...ap mid laner early on who will help the whole team.

junglerboy163 votes

I almost always "KS" the first one or two kills we get bot lane if my ADC isn't in position to steamroll with them (like a hyper lane bully who NEEDS the gold early to scale, like Draven or MF), because getting your support two kills early means they get sightstone faster (which means safety from more ganks), can bully the other laners harder, and are generally better at defending the ADC. If you're the ADC, you should easily be able to farm and get at least enough gold to still have just as much as those first one or two kills (plus you get assists), and if I'm able to protect you better, then that means that I can make more plays and get you more kills as the game goes on than if you tried to rely on your own damage alone with a squishy helpless support.

GundayMonday3 votes

+1 fellow support.

Played a game last night where my adc was doing the same thing whining at me for taking kills (I was 3-0-9 or something as sejuani support). The kills I took weren't sure things and the enemy probably would have killed my adc if I didn't take them.

But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I was obviously a "trash support" and needed to "uninstall".

So I left every kill for my adc after that >:)

Was really awesome when the enemy lissandra with 10hp finished him off when he was chasing her down (I had my frost passive on her and my E was off cooldown). Would wait for him to die and then just take the kill after. Got shut down gold a few times so it was actually a smarter math decision a few times.

Was laughing so hard when he switched from "Stop KSing" to "Why didn't you kill her first!!!!?!?!???" and then my team started making fun of the kid for being an idiot. That shut him up really quickly.

TL DR; no such thing as a ks, support carry OP.

Tiax2 votes

I call it ks when a support uses an auto or instant ability for a kill when anyone else is in perfect position to get it. Like it's a kill steal when the kill is secured before hand, with that being said I would never actually say anything or even have a negative reaction to it.

What I find so interesting is how jungle and then support get so much shit all throughout the game. Whenever I top my team will say "this x champion" or "wow" when I do well, nearly nothing when I go even or do bad (the majority of the time). But I will play a great jungle game (we might've won) and at least 2 other people will complain or blame me...

The Red Warden2 votes

Just tell them it was a kill secured, and that if they keep calling a kill stealer, you might just start acting like what he is saying you are. Usually gets them to shut up, for me at least.

Jofeyy2 votes

I used to love support, and part of me still does. But I realized that when playing solo (ranked or norms) a support is only as good as their team. You can make the best LC$ big play you want as a sup, but at the end of the day, if your team doesn't follow up (or completely f*cks up) it was worth nothing. You also get bitched at for their mistakes too. So basically you're an under appreciated ward gardener. I'll still play it if I must, but I only have fun playing support any more if I'm playing with friends.

Edit: Also be thankful to supports, make sure to thank them for good warding, peel, engage, hook, everything. Because thats basically what they offer to the game and some nice words go a long way to empowering morale.

TheNewHumanine2 votes

As an ADC main I always find these support horror stories discouraging. While the rest of the team may look to me for the late game damage, I always look to my support for the early game laning presence. When I get matched with a good support who knows how to engage and zone all that sexy shit, I know I'm gonna have a good game.

So even if in an engage, my support gets the double kill bot instead of me, I'm happy. We're winning lane regardless of who got the kills, and I know that it's (almost) never their intention to deny me kills.

Would it have been nice to get the gold? Sure. Does my KDA matter more? Perhaps.

But if you do your job right, I won't begrudge you for securing a couple of kills.

Stay awesome my support friend.

Retillin2 votes

I've learned this over the 4 years I've been playing. If someone bitches about kill stealing (and you didn't flash ult to get a kill) then they are an idiot. From that point on just mute them and ignore them. If you take a kill in a team fight and they bitch, well there is no fixing stupid.

Alderon WolfBane2 votes

Honestly if you're playing the role correctly and good just mute the people who are crying.

and a few kills here and there for a support is not a bad thing that few gold can help support get team aura item's faster :P

hobomann22 votes

whenever i get a kill as support i call it "support tax" bitch junglers don't need it we do

Jesus is Savior1 votes

Junglers have it worse.

Step 1) Gank every lane 10 times. Get zero kills, because your team sucks and can't followup.

Step 2) [ALL] "gg report udyr never ganks"

KidKaiser1 votes

"WHY U TAKE THE KILL!"

5mins later

"WHY DIDNT U KILL THEM!"

3mins later

"OMG I HAD THAT" (they were dead if u didnt kill)

--

these players want the spotlight, they're the ones that avoid support like the plague because they rather go 30-25-0 than 7-3-15. then tell the team they carried hard with their 30 kills. but refuse to see their 25 deaths costed the game.

Only Play Darius3 votes

people dont understand that 30/25 is a terrible score, you gave the opposing team a ridiculous amount of kills, and you spent a crazy amount of time dead so you couldn't manage objectives. I would much rather see 2/6 than 30/25 in the same length game.

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