"Junglers"

Nezekiel·May 17, 2015·1 votes·467 views

what do you do about junglers who tax 6+ waves that aren't even going to hit tower and aren't going to deny the enemy any cs when the laner needs the gold and more importantly the exp?

Or junglers who run in circles instead of farming up and "gank" by feeding enemy laners kills when 5-10 seconds before or after the gank attempt would have been a free kill, do you take their jungle or do you just let them feed and wait until the next game?

Or junglers who spend 1-2 mins running towards the enemy just to insta die without getting anything from it or in return, and/or don't take drag when 3+ are on one side of the map, or towers when they build items to be able to push instead of to be able to gank properly or build tank and wait until people die to suicide 5 seconds later instead of fighting with them

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AyRe CoNteMpTMay 17, 20153 votes

or laners who are whiney bitches who trashtalk their jungler into doing bullshit moves cuz "OMG NEED GANK IM SO BAD AT LIVING ON THIS PLANET HELP ME BREATHE!"

or people who open threads on forums without any clue what they are talking about just because their head is full of confusing lights and shapes they cant identify. jungling is so fucking unrewarding because of people like you.

like, if a jungler makes a mistake, it shows instantly and everyone blames him for it but most laning mistakes just go by without anyone noticing, not even the laner himself because he fucking sucks at the game and as a person and rather blames his jungler.

seriously, just go uninstal and do something good with your life, league obviously isnt for you.

NezekielMay 20, 20151 votes

you sir are being the toxic one, I have posted questions not accusations. and I have played many games where my jungler never did anything including farm his jungle. I have been last pick and forced to jungle when all my lanes lost stupidly in match ups they should have won by facerolling and lost towers before 8 mins somehow.

I have also played many many many many games where my jungler never comes to my lane but theirs does and either wastes his time on failed ganks over half the game, feeds me or simply makes their laner still lose lane but gets a kill and both combined are needed to deal with me and my jungler still doesn't take free objectives for over 30 mins then when they aren't free dies to try to steal them

AyRe CoNteMpTMay 20, 20151 votes

maybe because he sees things different and either thinks your lane isnt gankable efficiently, other things are more important etc. always remember that your jungler is not trying to gank more often than the enemy jungler but overall pressure him.

he lanes in the jungle. if he goes to counterjungle the enemy, its then UP TO YOU to not die to the enemy jungler because you should KNOW that when there are no camps for him to take, he has to gank gank gank or he loses the game. same thing with toplane, what if toplane destroys enemy hard early on and gets a kill level 6 and then freezes, denying the enemy toplaner completely every single cs and most experience? ofcourse the enemy riven is gonna roam and try to flash on mid or botlaners. its not toplaners job to prevent that, he is allready doing his job perfectly fine. its now YOUR job to not die to that riven and let him win you the game.

you know how easy it is to lose lane and how quickly you can fall behind. same in jungle. he ganks once or twice unsuccessfully and boom, instantly fucked himself. then what? im level 5, enemy laner is level 6 on the way to 7. then he ganks with ults and flashes and what do you want me to do? should i go and farm level 6 right now so i can do the same or should i keep ganking like crazy and pray to god that some of them will be successfull? lets say i decide to farm because my lvl 6 ganks are really just much better, and he ganks midlane successfully and even takes midlanes flash. now what? he got gold, he got exp, he got a kill. he doesnt need to go farm jungle much, he just wastes his overflowing smite on a quick camp and comes again because he knows you are bad and you have no flash. instantly killed again. sure, you didnt learn anything from this in midlane, you just kept laning like a dog thats fetching a stick and got ganked again, maybe 5 times in a row. why not? you are free money. its up to you to fix that, not up to your jungler. now your jungler finally got level 6 while you are allready 0/3 due to your own sucking and you are allready blaming him so the chance of him feeling like its a good idea to gank you is slim to non existant. so hes like "hm who do i gank, my botlane is caitlyn janna vs lucian thresh and our team is constantly pushing them into their tower, so probably not them. my toplane is vladimir vs hecarim, so damn, fuck, probably not him either. and im damn sure not to gank this retarded ahri who allready fed zed 0/3 midlane. so what am i gonna do? probably just farm until an opportunity arises and counterjungle/ward for my team."

and man, ganking really depends on laners too. what can he do if his laners trade so badly they couldnt follow up a gank anymore or just blow their cooldowns or cant handle their wavecontrol. if he ganks a retard laner and gets counterganked, instant doublekill. so he maybe wants to secure jungle vision and jungler tracking first or just doesnt gank retard lanes at all. like if i go to a syndra lane vs leblanc and i know my only chance to ever gank this lane is if syndra accepts a bad trade RIGHT NOW to make leblanc waste her W and then stun her right afterwards, but first syndra doesnt get the point that SHE HAS TO MAKE A MOVE and then wastes/misses her stun, i will simply never go to that lane ever again. deal done. same if im going to invade top jungle around lvl 4-5, warding it, getting jungle tracking through him being not here so hes either recalled or around bot side and i TELL my botlaners that or at least ping them red/yellow and they INITIATE A FIGHT THEMSELVES! and get ganked, i will NEVER gank them ever because its 100% obvious that they are bad and a gank would be impossible to succeed, except by pure coincidence. i rather gank this darius 5 times who makes sure to never let riven become a factor ever and then helps me control the jungle. and yes, if all lanes are bad, i rather just farm and only gank with my big cooldowns or save them for objectives for when I feel its a good call.

and if the jungler thinks its worth farming 20 minutes only and then going and being usefull, then its his decision and you have to accept it. same as with midlaners who feel like they just want to farm and hold their tower/pressure enemy tower but not roam botlane or same with toplaners who simply need to use their TP in lane all the time to not fall behind so they cant TP bot. its not up to other people to win or help your lane, they are trying to do their job and if you fuck them up over it because "omg you could do so much better", yeah, sure, they probably could all do better and so could you.

im not being toxic here, im just revealing a part of the truth to you that was hidden until now. you can either accept it or keep bitching.

NezekielJun 6, 20151 votes

your arguments are with junglers who play the game, my question is how do you deal with the people beginner bots would have done more to win the game with. and if a 10% hp champ with no sums past the mid point isn't gankable there is no gank in the game they will ever succeed on (it going on for ~5 mins not just a small window nobody could make it to)

and if you actually read what I said you know they aren't farming up they are just jacking off. and you are being toxic by starting with 'or laners who are whiney bitches who trashtalk their jungler into doing bullshit moves cuz "OMG NEED GANK IM SO BAD AT LIVING ON THIS PLANET HELP ME BREATHE!"'

I don't need people to help my lane, I need people who play the game. if X person has been at no hp for ~10 mins thats their deal they should be doing something besides running CROSS map to show in lane then run back without doing any camps along the way

Lauricella3May 17, 20152 votes

-laners who go ham when i am on my way to gank and die and expect me to kill the 15hp enemy who has escaped under their tower -laners who say, "I am getting camped" and die every 2 mins to jungle ganks -laners who "need ganks" but are always tower diving -laners who "need blue" but perform a very complex buff transfer ritual with the enemy mid 15 secs later. -laners who don't leash -laners who rush warmogs

NezekielMay 20, 20151 votes

not leashing isn't a thing for most junglers anymore it just wastes a LOT of their early game time what objectively is more important if they know how to jungle. haven't seen anyone rush warmogs since it was the thing to do top

LuggMay 20, 20151 votes

Jungling is probably the hardest role to play in the game right now. You are expected to pressure all 3 lanes, take dragon, and farm enough to stay relevant. Let's not even get into the fact that you can get counterjungled. It is a hard role, work with your jungler and realize his job sucks most of the time.

FooDangMay 20, 20151 votes

You got more double digit deaths per game than I have fingers and toes...He probably thought the gold would best be suited for him to carry your team to victory...

To answer your question...if my JG is farming my lane...I farm their jungle... If I'm JG and my laners are farming my jungle...I go to a lane and farm a wave... It's called rotating...

A JG's gotta do what a JG's gotta do...