Tribunal
Will the Tribunal come back up? It was gone for all of S4 and it is almost S5.
Will the Tribunal come back up? It was gone for all of S4 and it is almost S5.
Its sad really, within the past week and a half, i reported 30+ people that broke the code, being toxic, botting and so on but botting was minimul. Riot please bring a more severe, a more realistic punishment to the Community. You made the Summoner's code as a guide and as a way to saying WE are not messing around. But nothing is being done with the mass of reports all of us are sending. I played with the same person I reported three times and i reported him all three times, then a friend messaged me saying the same person(I verified if it was, name and everything was correct) I was with was still playing league, still being absolutely toxic, spamming, trolling, feeding, breaking the code, everything. it just surprises me that back in S2-S3, people that did that were usally never seen again or changed the way they acted then became active within the Community. but now no one cares what they say because you need dozens of reports to start to be punished. please do something. I'm not yelling or dissing on you Riot, I'm just a little shocked.
It's very hard to respect people like you who report over anything at the drop of a hat.
likewise to someone who doesn't want to permaban trolls. clearly you are one either one of them or someone who doesn't ever play in ranked, because the problem is thrice as irritating in ranked as it would otherwise be in normals.
People take this game seriously and whenever nobody is breaking the code, people generally win more (and also therefore have more fun, riot statistics have shown that).
People taking the game too seriously is part of what makes trolls and it's what makes serious players get toxic easier. There definitely is a distinguishable line between people who throw out reports constantly but honor nobody, and legitimate reports from reasonable and lenient players. I don't believe that punishments should get more severe, because trolls and toxic players will inevitably still get punished, BUT I definitely am concerned as to why the tribunal as been down for almost 2 seasons now. So I agree that the Tribunal needs to come back...like yesterday. It's a "feature" that doesn't exist currently :( at least update us on what is going on and why it's taking so long :)
Its sad really, within the past week and a half, i reported 30+ people that broke the code, being toxic, botting and so on but botting was minimul. Riot please bring a more severe, a more realistic punishment to the Community. You made the Summoner's code as a guide and as a way to saying WE are not messing around. But nothing is being done with the mass of reports all of us are sending. I played with the same person I reported three times and i reported him all three times, then a friend messaged me saying the same person(I verified if it was, name and everything was correct) I was with was still playing league, still being absolutely toxic, spamming, trolling, feeding, breaking the code, everything. it just surprises me that back in S2-S3, people that did that were usally never seen again or changed the way they acted then became active within the Community. but now no one cares what they say because you need dozens of reports to start to be punished. please do something. I'm not yelling or dissing on you Riot, I'm just a little shocked.
its wasnt me right? :D
Hold on, the tribunal is disabled???? I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE TRIBUNAL PAGE FOR THE PAST YEAR OR SO THINKING THAT I WAS JUST REALLY UNLUCKY AND MAYBE TOMORROW THERE WOULD BE SOME CASES FOR ME. Sorry for caps but god...attached is a picture of my justice review. After tribunal would be closed I'd open it up and look at my stats. 346 cases reviewed isn't bad. Oh yeah, that 16 review streak? It was the last 16 games i reviewed. Disruptive, vulgar, or otherwise unsavory types have been around as long as mankind. LOL has never been troll free. However, when I could actively be a member of the tribunal I felt as if I had some control over the user pool of LOL, punishing the wrong, pardoning the just. Now it's just an automated system. Any sort of human judgement has been buried under code that only flag users after reaching some number of reports. In my opinion, the most effective social hierarchy is a democracy. We. the users of LOL, should have some say on what is appropriate behavior when playing, and what isn't. To put that responsibility primarily on the shoulders of a program isn't just a bad decision, its insulting. I know riot doesn't care about that tho, so how about this instead: How many man hours does your team deal with reports a week? Isn't crowd sourcing the problem much more cost effective? Then your team just has to decide the punishment instead of the entire process. Think of the bottom line!
yeah that makes me mad too... i mean i was playing this game since season 1 and i was doing the tribunal, just to make everything fair and nice. then i saw that nothing happens for 3 seasons, till i get stuck in mid of afk, trolls and flamers... then i start to flame back ofc. i mean wtf, right? at least all of my friends stopped playing this shit. we just troll now here if we want to have fun. thats it. if unfairness is the rule, then we just follow the rules. gj riot. gg!
nothing like putting butting bans/chat restricts in the hands of automated programs.
I would like it back as well. I thought it was useful before. Today I got a Leavebuster warning just for getting disconnected at the very start of the game. I have instantly reconnected and was on my lane before minions spawned, and have not had any other disconnect during the game.
Plus, it was fun to be a part of it! :)
Leaverbuster was never related to Tribunal. It still isn't related to the current systems handling behavioral reports.
I totally agree with the tribunal coming back! Needs to happen badly!!! I can't even play a ranked game anymore without people being stupid and obnoxious. It's like they forget that it's just a game. I know a lot of them are trying hopelessly to be pro, but come on. You're not going to go prop with that attitude, and there is no reason for them presently not to act like idiots.
The Tribunal or some form of punishment would be perfect because it feels like when you report someone they dont know unless multiple people report them in that game and if they dont get a message they will continue to be rude and obnoxious. I highly agree with you, the Tribunal was a saver of the Lol Community but now with no form of punishment unless you get a lot of warnings, nothing will happen when something needs to happen terribly. I cant even play basic PVP without the same problems XD. its bad how quick the Community went down after the Tribunal and they said you will need A LOT of reports on you for any kind of "slap on the wrist" to start. Something needs done.
and what lol community bro? GET A JOB. Its a game not your future
Removed for giving up on fanboys that will do/listen to anything riot says
I don't know, but there needs to be some form of punishment for breaking rules clearly outlined in the summoner's code.
I highly agree with you. i noticed a lot of people now being more toxic and its hard not to find a game where someone is toxic or breaking the summoner's code.
I'd like the tribunal to be up because there are a lot of cases in which reports are not fair. I got myself banned 3 times from Ranked solo Queue and chat restricted because of that. I complained to Riot about it and all they did was telling me that indeed I had a toxic behaiviour and reset the ban right after I got rid of it. My point is: in a game in which all 5 teammates are jerks (including me) and only one person gets the ban, do you think it is fair for the rest not to get a punishment for being toxic? What about thos premade people who like reporting because you expressed to them that you don't like their flaming? Or you had a bad game and people report you for "offensive language" when you actually didn't say anything?
yeah tribunal has been gone since season 2, want to point out that riot is breaking its own ToS by not providing tribunal as mentioned in the ToS section 3, sub-section E, point 3:
"By the Community via Crowd Sourcing. Riot Games has empowered its community of users (the “Community”) to police the compliance of other users with the “Summoner’s Code” (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/articles/The_Summoners_Code), which outlines the principles of ideal game play behavior, as well as with other Riot Games policies. Consistent with the guidelines found at http://na.leagueoflegends.com/legal/tribunal, Community members, including you as a user, are allowed to submit descriptions of activity and actions of certain users within the Game, and collectively determine if that particular user was in compliance with the Riot Games policies relating to user conduct, including, but not limited to, the Summoner’s Code and the Code of Conduct (defined below). This system of allowing the Community to review user behavior in the Game is called The Tribunal®. Should The Tribunal determine that you have acted in contravention of any one of the Riot Games policies, Riot Games may, in its sole and absolute discretion, ban your use of the Game and suspend, terminate and/or delete your Account."
then later again mentioned in section 6 sub-section C :
"The Tribunal. All Chat will be recorded by Riot Games and stored for a period determined by Riot Games in its sole discretion, which period Riot Games may change from time to time in accordance with the terms of The Tribunal policy. Should your in-Game actions or conduct be reported by another user as being in contravention of the Summoner’s Code, in violation of this Agreement or outside the scope of any one of Riot Games’ policies, and should your case come before The Tribunal, the entire Chat log from that particular reported Game session will be included in The Tribunal report and available for viewing by randomly selected members of the Community who are eligible and opt to participate in The Tribunal."
so can someone please explain how riot is not breaking tos as they have stated multiple times when i have asked, i also want to point out that there have been several of their employees that have banned the support account because i have asked them this, which also breaks ToS as it states:
"Customer Contact. If you have any questions concerning these terms and conditions, or if you would like to contact Riot Games for any other reason, please contact Riot Games support at [email protected], or visit the “support” tab on the Site." - section 17 sub-section B
now upon riot's sole discretion, we may open a case with an independent arbitrator. he will decide whether this is a violation of the Terms of Service, and if so, suggest for rito to revise their TOS...
i got perm banned cuz of people false reporting me
Don't believe it was false.. Just bring Tribunal back, LOL started to get unplayable :(
not worth commenting
But you just did..
Dude Tribunal is a joke they all go by here say and its people like you who make a game like this bad.....stop reporting a be a man.....goes to show how much people DONT belong in the army.
Edited because I don't care anymore. It's not worth the effort to argue with people who think riot can do no wrong
Yes, I don't belong in the army. I deserve to live. However, you are the one who ruins Legend League. Someone acting as a "man" doesn't be a jerk to everyone he sees. He wouldn't get mad over the slightest thing in a video game. A man is sensible, and realizes when someone else cannot handle social interaction over the internet, and needs to be reported.
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Tribunal is nonexistent. I can't play a single game without someone trolling i some way. It ruins the game, makes it unplayable, and everyone who plays solo q knows what i'm talking about. Riot does nothing, they know there is a problem and do nothing. All riot does is focus on LCS because that is what makes the money. They try nothing to help the everyday average player. Riot please do something, rid LoL of trolls. Please try something, they ruin the whole game.
yeah riot does something, they punish the players that are telling the trolls to fuck off and stop playing, a riot employee confirmed that just without the exact words
I've been playing video games since Atari was big, and the tribunal is by far the dumbest, most ham-fisted idea I have ever seen. You sensitive ass kids wouldn't have been able to handle the arcade. Stop taking yourself so seriously. Nobody cares if you're offended.
To be honest, I almost don't want it to return. Although toxicity was recently being regarded in a harsh manner (bans, suspensions, etc), it really shaped the League community up. Showed us as a whole that Rito isn't screwing around anymore. Whereas the Tribunal had a more indirect "slap on the wrist" feel.
Yet more people have been complaining about wrongful bans, more games with trolls and toxic players in them and the overall feel that not much is being done. It really doesn't appear to have shaped it up at all. Back when I first started playing the tribunal was up and it was rare to find a game with a toxic player in it on either team. Now though since the tribunal has been down for so long it's rare to find a game that doesn't have a toxic player in it. So I don't know what shaping up you are talking about because from what I have personally seen and from what other people have said it appears the toxicity has been worse than ever.
Yet more people have been complaining about wrongful bans,
But only around 1% - 2% of them were found 'wrongful'.
more games with trolls and toxic players in them and the overall feel that not much is being done.
I beg to differ mate. People actually hesitate to carry on trolling once reports are mentioned. At least in my games.
It really doesn't appear to have shaped it up at all. Back when I first started playing the tribunal was up and it was rare to find a game with a toxic player in it on either team.
Are you certain you were playing League of Legends? Haha.
Now though since the tribunal has been down for so long it's rare to find a game that doesn't have a toxic player in it. So I don't know what shaping up you are talking about because from what I have personally seen and from what other people have said it appears the toxicity has been worse than ever.
I guess it's all experience based. I can't really say "you're wrong", but you're far from right. People who got banned shaped up REALLY well. And saying that "no change occurred" even though you clearly mentioned people being overwhelmingly banned is contradictory. :P
And where did you pull that statistic from then?
Really? Well sounds like you have gotten really lucky because every single game I've been in the trolls and toxic players haven't cared when someone has threatened to report them, hell half the time it actually makes it worse, it's not just been on my team either, other teams have asked for someone to be reported and that person would still continue feeding or stand around doing nothing. Hell I've been in teams with 2-3 trolls/toxic players in them who mess around not helping anyone and go down different lanes than what they called and then threaten to report the players actually trying to play if they say they are going to report these players. SO yeah seems like not much is being done, or they just don't care.
Yes. I would play with a mate and besides the rare times, most games didn't have trolls or toxic players unlike now where most do.
Actually I never mentioned people being "Overwhelmingly banned" I said more people are complaining about WRONGFUL bans, I should have also mentioned wrongful chat restrictions as well. So your right I was wrong there has been a change, that being an increase in possible wrongful bans and restrictions. Also like I said most of my games lately have had a Toxic player or players, be it on the other team or mine. I have seen a lot of complaints about the same thing happening to others and people on these boards also feel they have noticed more and more toxic players.
The irony is the reporters are worse than the actual "toxic" players they complain about.
Found the toxic.
his other comment was just as stupid... i'd report this guy for trolling forums. xD
I think the tribunal was a great system that actually made people think twice before being toxic or breaking the summoner's code. people now have been highly toxic and almost every game has one to four people being rude, toxic, and or breaking the code. i noticed a lot of people just not caring what they say anymore because it is down.
It didn't do anything short of make Riot money
How the fuck did the tribunal make riot money?
top kek
By disabling it. Through the disablement more and more toxic people will start to play and the few good people, will start to leave because they can't handle these toxic players. If riot were to bring back complete justice the few good would finally come back and bring a stop to the toxicity. But there would be so much players eligible for suspensions riot would most likely lose money. I really hope riot does what is best for the good who helped them get this far.
I really hope it comes back up because so many people now don't care what they say at all and it seems like when you report someone, nothing is done and they continue to make racial or homophobic slurs, being generally toxic, trolling SO HARD and so on. I think with the Tribunal down things will get worse and when the time comes for them to be removed it will be to late. If the Tribunal comes back up early S5 i definitely think we will notice a lot less toxicity in Lol and in the Lol Community.

People are being so "TOXIC ", when is it going to end?!
Sooo... We seriously need some sort of timeline on this, it's been a year.![]()
Does the Tribunal have a system of eligibility?
A lot of comments I've read are full of blood-lust saying "Bring the Tribunal back so I can ban people". This concerns me.
all I see is bitch really...you can keep coming back with what you think is cunning and sensible and little quotes you made up to cover up how lame and gay you are. Fact of the matter is your all gay.