Do ranked win streaks affect MMR?

Spikeman71·3/2/2015, 7:12:46 PM·2 votes·13,764 views

When I play ranked it seems that I'll get a win streak and gradually play harder players as I lead into promos. Once I hit promos the enemies seem very tough, therefore, leading to a loss and then a losing streak.

So If i have a win streak should I stop playing or what. It feels this way every time I hit a win streak, (4-5 games in a row) then I lose (2-3 games in a row). To make things worse after my 3rd loss game is usually filled with the trash bin of reported players. (They generally act like they've been reported in every game.) So I get paired with awful people.

Any ideas/help?

10 Comments

MigYalle3/2/2015, 7:23:55 PM2 votes

^same here

Oddysseas3/2/2015, 7:28:55 PM2 votes

Yes it does, however how much is not clarified as riot would have to give explanations about many things. One thing is for sure, their system doesn't work well and imma prove it to you, i have no time to explair right now but ill tell you this, thet say if your mmr goes up, that you get matched with better players and thus higher lp gains and smaller lp losses. They also say win streaks make mmr go up, they ALSO say high win streaks will result in very small lp gain reduction, i went from gaining 9 lp per win to 8 lp per win after a 4 game win streak. Therefore there two statements contradict each other.

AJStarhiker3/2/2015, 7:54:15 PM1 votes

Every game affects your mmr. If you get placed against a team rated better than you, you'll get more LP for a win than if you are placed against a team rated lower. If you're on a win streak, you might gain a bunch of LP, but the game will also place you with/against better players until you reach a plataeu where you have a combination of wins and losses.

The game tries to place people so that, over a lot of games, their win/loss record is roughly 50/50. And the more games you play, the more effort it takes to change your standing.

Karlyr3/2/2015, 8:18:44 PM1 votes

I heard something about ranked win streaks and lose streaks that went something like this : The matchmaking will try to pair people with huge win streaks with people that has huge lose streaks to try and break either of the streaks. But I had no confirms of reds about that.

Oddysseas3/2/2015, 8:44:43 PM1 votes

The problem is that a player who in previous seasons fucjed up their mmr by losing alot of games, now is forced to have super low lp gains and super high lp losses, i for example gain 8-9 and lose 19-24. Here is the catch. When you go in win streaks your mmr raises but in bronze win streaks are hard to achieve as the possibility of getting matched with a bad player or troll is very high. Now assuming you are not the feeder or troll, the odds are 4:1 for the troll to be in your team vrs 5:1 to be in the other team. That means you should have a little over 50% winrate. However the big win streaks are real hard to get since you must be extremely good to counter a potential feeding from you own team. What i mean by that is that a platinum or diamond player with 8-9 lp gain and 19-24 lp loss would have a chance to make it out of bronze since they are too good for bronze standard, but a silver or gold player would have an extremely almost impossible time making it out of bronze.

Now you will hear alot of smart asses saying that a silver or bronze player with 8-9 lp gain and 19-24 lp loss could make it out of bronze, but that is bogus. They are not taking into account that the odds of the troll- feeder might be in their team, and the odd is like 40% and thus real hard to win 3 games to compensate for one loss ( like i have to do) for example.

I had a nasus in my previous game who didn't know how his q stacks worked, we tried to explain to him but he was so stupid that couldnt get it. He finished the game with the amazing 6 stacks to his q. When people get over 300 usually. That shows the kibd of people you may have in your team in bronze, but there kinds of people have a higher chance to appear in the enemy team. The thing is you can't have a huge win streak like that. Also you must consider the fact that sometimes you are last pick and thus are forced into a role that you don't like. Even if you are very good in that role, carrying the game might not depend on you, you might be an amazing support but have a stupid adc, or be an amazing adc but your support may be terrible, feeding the enemy adc and diving in for kills. Therefore i think riot's system is flaud since a silver player could not get out of bronze like a diamond player would.

Oddysseas3/2/2015, 8:58:17 PM1 votes

If you want my suggestion find two champions for each role that you find easy to play and easy to carry with. I always top with garen and jax. I jungke with jarvan and pantheon, i mid with ( not specific midlaner) i support with garen or pantheon ( people dont like it) and shyvana( people also don't like it) and i adc with graves and Quinn. When you find your favorite easy to carry with champions, play tons of normal games with them until you have a great understanding of how the champions works, the kind of build to follow. Then go ranked and ONLY use thosse champions. If one gets picked or banned play the other one. I rarely lose games when i play garen for example. I am also very successful and graves adc and pantheon jungle. What i mean is this way you reduce the odds of YOU being the one who underperforms and feeds. This will make your winrate and thus mmr go up

Matthias91193/3/2015, 1:30:07 AM1 votes

I believe it is extremely unlikely that win or loss streaks have any extra effect on MMR gains or losses. If they did, Riot could run into situations where they have to manufacture extra MMR "out of thin air" to give players the required bonus, which would lead to MMR and rank inflation over time.