What is the reason for DCs ? RIOT or thousands of players ?

kunalr·Dec 15, 2014·4 votes·1,123 views

in my last 20 games, i had 16 DCs or so. I refuse to believe that so many people just join a game, and go DC before starting the game. I refuse to believe that the problem is with "firewall", "network", "*******", and other excuse. Because I myself get DC once every 10 games or so. the network remains same. I have no intention of DC. the software remains same. Is it possible that the same happens to other players? And we all blame each other ? Because RIOT's amazing engineering team punishes players for its mistakes. Not it self. Is it possible that RIOT's own software is buggy ? Is it possible that they could have fixed these issues, instead of launching Rek Sai ? I dunno. May be I am wrong. Let me know.

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Dr Clueless PhDDec 15, 20143 votes

DC issues are, quite often, a combination of both. It's an issue resulting from Riot's stuff not working properly with your stuff, simply put. It's not really anyone's fault (usually), it's just a thing that happens when you have so many different hardware/software configurations using software that updates every two weeks. Unfortunately, this usually means that you have to resolve it on your end.

kunalrDec 15, 20141 votes

i understand. technically, a bit torrent client works 24/7 with 'kinda' similar technology. none of the torrent softwares complain that its the user's fault . can a world cup championship game have a dc ? can't we demand the same stability ?

TeemoJenkinsDec 15, 20141 votes

{quoted} i understand. technically, a bit torrent client works 24/7 with 'kinda' similar technology. none of the torrent softwares complain that its the user's fault . can a world cup championship game have a dc ? can't we demand the same stability ?

I'm sorry, did you just compare peer to peer software piracy software connectivity to League of Legends in terms of software complexity? You then compare a real life sport to League of Legends?

The IQ level of this post is ... terrifying.

kunalrDec 15, 20141 votes

to a code , piracy has no meanig . its just data transfer.

I Happy Hour IDec 22, 20141 votes

Torrent software is not just used for piracy. Many companies use it for legit software. Linux OS variations would be one example.

Dr Clueless PhDDec 15, 20141 votes

The hardware and software that a Championship game is run on is tested.

Believe it or not, they don't pull a computer out of the box, put League on it, and say "Play for the World Finals on this." They get it to exactly the state it needs to be in, and test it rigorously to make sure there aren't any issues. YOUR system, on the other hand, is constantly changing.

And furthermore: Riot doesn't complain that it's the user's fault. IT GENERALLY IS THE USER'S FAULT, to some degree (or at least the fault lies with their system). I've fixed my own League issues countless times, and I've helped a number of people fix theirs. You know what they all had in common? WE fixed them. Riot didn't go flip some magic switch that turned League back on for us.

kunalrDec 15, 20141 votes

if a company can't launch a stable software for a certain hardware, then name it beta / alpha for that hardware. why tell players to blame each other for dc ? what changes in our system ? a new movie downloaded ? a new browser ? a new anti virus ? firewall ? i dont understand, what changes so rapidly, that RIOT has to make it an excuse.

open source linux distributions state clearly how stable they are . why can't a game ( which expects people to invest money+ time ) , say so ?

I understand that sometimes issues exist with certain hardware/user. But these issues are boolean. i.e., either these users can play, or they can not. if they can play some times and can not play sometimes, then the bug is in software . not with users' hardware/configuration/environment. thats what my experience with creating softwares says.

Dr Clueless PhDDec 15, 20141 votes

What changes? Things update constantly. Every time you run Windows Update, your system changes. And generally, you don't have any idea how. Your antivirus, your browser (believe it or not, your browser version and details are involved in League's client, specifically the shop, if I recall, but don't ask me how), all of these things update and change. And it's not simply an issue with hardware or software. It's the combination of the two. Mac is especially guilty of having certain hardware/OS combinations be notoriously unstable and incompatible with software, but it's not just Mac who has issues like this.

How many times has an antivirus update made LoL stop working for people? Countless. Windows Firewall updates have similarly made it quit working. Some Windows Updates have caused issues where people need to go fiddle with administrator settings to get it working again.

A firmware update on your router can cause problems. So can your ISP updating something on their end.

To be perfectly honest, I'm comparing your experience creating software to my experience FIXING it for people. Not once have I ever had to go to someone like Riot and say "Hey, you need to fix your software for this guy's machine." I have, however, fixed plenty of issues on people's systems. Hell, a quick Google search shows countless instances of people fixing their issues on their own computer.

kunalrDec 16, 20141 votes

Look, things you mentioned are theoretically possible, and do happen. not everyone update router firmware everyday. or if a popular anti viruses consider LOL as virus, there may be a concern on the LOL side.The way it work may not be considered right. there can be many reasons and many solutions ..... theoretically .

but if a software does not work optimally 19/25 times, then we can not blame the environment. (yes, last five games had 3 DCs) Thousands of softwares work perfectly, for multiple OS and multiple hardwares. Every software has minor issues, but blaming it on the user , just shows the in capability of the engineering team. Not the hardware. Not the software. But the people building it.

EatDec 15, 20143 votes

Plot Twist: Riot is doing it purposely to make everyone agree to leave buster?

Blazing TenshiDec 15, 20142 votes

Internet works perfectly fine all day, open LOL for a game for a game thinking that my internet is working fine. As soon as I am in a game suddenly "default gateway unavailable" and "DNS server not responding" errors for days.