Why is the support always the one to blame?

Hèntaî ·May 30, 2015·23 votes·7,867 views

Its not the supports fault that you are doing bad top/mid/jg early on, and it certainly isnt my job to ward the map every 5 seconds, you can upgrade your ward for 250. I hate it cause you can support your lane really well and get shit on for it. Also hate it when no one groups up and they go in one by one and die and low and behold, Support its your fault we are losing. "I wish I had an actually support" I know what role im not trying to play anymore. Seriously, I dont understand how you supps deal with it. And yes you can mute them but you only get reported for it. I know some people dont do well when supporting but to the people that do, you shouldnt say they are the reason why your team/you are doing bad. Especially when you have poor decisions and are the most demanding mofo out there

Edit(2): Respect your team, makes for a better and more fun match.

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SoMNiaMay 30, 201515 votes

Nami bubbles a fleeing target to bring its health within kill range, watches carry hit it with another attack before the bubble lands, causing Nami to get the kill

MissFortune "wow really?"

Later:

Nami ults to interrupt a ult on an ally whose health bar she can't see, and kills him MissFortune "nami you need to stop"

Later:

MissFortune pings for assistance in the middle of the jungle "heal" Nami starts moving some 2000 units in that direction (2 seconds later) "heal"

As a support, I'm not going to apologize for securing kills and protecting my team, least of all with a KDA of 3/1/17, and I am not your lapdog to come running across the map when you want to heal up and take blue before backing. I have three other teammates to help. Carries, if you treat your support like this, as soon as the laning phase is over, I'm going to help the jungler secure objectives, and if you know what's good for you, you'll tag along, because I'm not going to babysit you if you act like an entitled, mouthy brat. I will take that Mikael's I bought with the kill gold and shove it right up your crowd-controlled behind, and you can cleanse yourself. Not really, because the team needs you to win, but you're still an awful human being making the game incredibly unfun. Hypothetically.

ChaoticPineconeMay 31, 20153 votes

heh - once ADCs start blaming me for their mistakes, i just go pure offense. Mikaels? cant afford it - im getting an IE on janna.

COWmanLordJun 1, 20152 votes

This is bringing back some PTSD from a full ad janna jungle I went against at some point. I didn't really have to deal with it until it showed up in my line 10/0/10 with a triforce, static shiv, a zephyr, and some other items I can't remember.

Icestar1186May 30, 20159 votes

The problem is the mindset that the support and the jungler are supposed to win your lane for you. While that's utterly ridiculous, too many people think that.

As a jungle main, I feel your pain. "shit jg never ganks" (is always either pushed to the enemy turret, backing, or dead) "Well, I can't gank under their tower" "its called towerdiving" (dives, gets no followup, and cant solo kill because I'm a tank) "dude wtf don't feed my lane"

Rango in BushMay 31, 20154 votes

I know that feel. 6 minutes into a match Mid: jg, why are you babysitting top? come help me mid me: Their jungler is constantly harassing top and i can secure a kill for our toplaner mid: let top feed or win on their own, help me me:ok, im on my way starts moving towards mid and barely passes scuttler and baron pit when mid tower dives and gets charmed. Dies to ahri + turret. Ahri is at half health Mid: jg, what are you doing? I asked for help and you didn't help me. Go dive for that kill or im reporting and feeding. Nidalee Sigh

RaivicaMay 30, 20157 votes

I once had my adc whine at me because I hooked their adc as Thresh just before they started attacking their Sona. "Wtf Thresh hook the one I'm targeting" It could've easily been a kill for us but then they both walked away with moderate to low health.

TrídentMay 30, 20156 votes

its human nature, people think a supports job is easy, and if they are doing bad... they need someone to blame. Naturally, they just blame the support or jungler, since those roles usually impact the laning phase the most ;c

Hèntaî May 30, 20152 votes

Its sad, waiting on the day that all support mains just start roaming and ksing XD

TrídentMay 30, 20151 votes

THE REBELLIONNNNNJN AWAITS

PartholonianMay 30, 20156 votes

If supporting your marksman isn't going to be effective at winning the game, support someone who can. By the time the first towers are going down it may already be time to start thinking something like "Who, on this team, can actually kill people if I lock them down for him/her?" or "Who is it actually important to keep alive to win fights and take objectives?" An 0/6/2 AD "carry" with 80 cs at 20 is not the answer to either question.

Of course you should give them a chance to be worthwhile, but if they prove they aren't, go make plays for someone who can carry them out.

QsarioMay 31, 20151 votes

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Its sad, waiting on the day that all support mains just start roaming and ksing XD

I have seriously been 4/0 (flash+AA kill secures) when no one else on my team even had a kill yet.

We lost that one, because I believe no one else ever DID get a kill (they had either a pick or wombo and started destroying us around 6).

rtbf221651412May 31, 20151 votes

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Its sad, waiting on the day that all support mains just start roaming and ksing XD

I do that already if I find that I have to carry stupid mistakes with Soraka.

Spacesuit SpiffMay 30, 20156 votes

Ashe (makes no attempt to not get blitz pulled at any point during laning phase) Ashe (gets blitz pulled every time it's off cooldown) Nami (tries to salvage the skirmishes and make the most out of the situation, but you can't do much when your adc keeps getting pulled) Ashe omg useless support do something wtf im afk

DaxterrMay 31, 20156 votes

That's why riot created bard. Graves wow bard what a noob missed your stun .... wait where are you going?! Bard I'm on a chime run. Forever.

SexyTaylorSwiftMay 30, 20155 votes

I only blame the support if they are to be blamed lol. If I am doing shitty, then I blame myself. But if you are going to pick Leona, stand behind the minion wave, not use relic shield, and pretty much jack off by the tower, you shouldn't be playing League. If you pick Brand support, die 11 times and don't buy a sightstone the entire game because you wanted to play mid Brand, you shouldn't be playing League.

I think a lot of the hate for support comes from the fact that it is usually their fault. I say this because 90% of the time, in my games at least, support is played by the 5th pick who says, "anything but support". Then they suck at it because they weren't intelligent enough to practice support before playing ranked games. So yes, blaming the support for your own shit play is annoying, but most the time the support actually does suck lol.

PartholonianMay 30, 20155 votes

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I say this because 90% of the time, in my games at least, support is played by the 5th pick who says, "anything but support".

You know, there is a 100% effective way to prevent this from happening. (Two, if you count Team Builder.)

Then they suck at it because they weren't intelligent enough to practice support before playing ranked games.

So, you're intelligent enough to practice it, but not intelligent enough to play it when it would save your team?

Austin CovelloMay 31, 20152 votes

You know, there is a 100% effective way to prevent this from happening. (Two, if you count Team Builder.)

That's hilarious. I play team-builder all the time. Before the mastery system (I guess everyone's playing seriously now to get those rank 5 masteries), I could pretty much count on troll-supports who only picked it to buck the queue times.

SexyTaylorSwiftJun 2, 20151 votes

Exactly this lol. "Oh, I want to practice my mid lane Annie, but I don't want to wait. Better que up as support and pretend I'm going to help the team out."

LintheJun 1, 20151 votes

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I only blame the support if they are to be blamed lol. If I am doing shitty, then I blame myself. But if you are going to pick Leona, stand behind the minion wave, not use relic shield, and pretty much jack off by the tower, you shouldn't be playing League. If you pick Brand support, die 11 times and don't buy a sightstone the entire game because you wanted to play mid Brand, you shouldn't be playing League.

I think a lot of the hate for support comes from the fact that it is usually their fault. I say this because 90% of the time, in my games at least, support is played by the 5th pick who says, "anything but support". Then they suck at it because they weren't intelligent enough to practice support before playing ranked games. So yes, blaming the support for your own shit play is annoying, but most the time the support actually does suck lol.

How often do EITHER of those 2 examples in paragraph 1 happen? I have played around 900 games and NEVER seen either of them.

MOST of the time the support actually does suck? Most is somewhere north of 50%. I call BS on that statement too.

SexyTaylorSwiftJun 2, 20151 votes

Consider yourself lucky. I have used the first two actual examples that came to mind.

cosmic moonMay 31, 20155 votes

Support main here! Along with junglers, I feel that supports are definitely the most abused individuals in the game. My favorite complaint is when I have three wards out and am told that the jungle is too dark. You have a free ward, please use it. Yes, I have a Ruby Sightstone, but no, I cannot have more than three wards down at once.

I used to be too afraid to secure kills because I didn't want to steal them, but I've learned that it's better to just take the kill (or at least keep attacking until they're dead, instead of backing off when they have 100 HP). Far too many times I've thought that a kill was secured when oh, they flashed away and now we don't have a kill. A kill is better than no kill, regardless of who got it.

One time I was playing Nami and we were chasing someone that we had absolutely zero chance of catching up to. I used Ebb and Flow on my adc to get the kill, and they bitched me out for taking the kill. And regardless if they could have taken the kill, I'd rather have a definite than a maybe.

TomatosxMay 30, 20154 votes

You read my mind. Our jungle kept asking me to ward when I had all three out and a pink. So frustrating.

Kurama7May 30, 20154 votes

I've mained both support and jungle...they are by far the most blamed positions in the game. While playing support team wants you to: have 65wards on the map, is 1 bush isent warded its your fault your bad, even though you can only have 3 wards + a pink out at one time and others can ward. Omg you took a cs!!!! (my ability is aoe and cc'd the enemy...sorry for helping you trade). Ask laner if they want to be aggressive or passive, they say aggressive, 2minutes into game "OMG I JUST WANT FARM DONT POKE THEM", they want passive "OMG GG NO POKE FROM SUPPORT, NOT MAKING MY AGGRESSIVE PLAYS BLAH BLAH" Jungle: Every lane wants you to: give up your jungle to them, always give blue buffs (even if they dont use or dont deserve), dont touch their cs ever, sit in their lane only, call pings, always gank other lanes while staying in their lane somehow, stay above enemy jungler in cs and levels but dont leave their lane. Secure every objective on spawn, instantly, never miss a smite or take a kill when ganking, miss a skill shot might as well afk, don't build tanky, you're "bad", dont have enough damage to kill someone as a tank you're "bad", don't "peel" for adc when they melee range people with cc, dont even get me started with laners who die before i've even done my 2nd camp and expect me to be full hp and in their lane with red buff + level 3... ETC. They are by far the most abused positions in the game, and half the time the other positions don't ever see anything you do well, only the bad.

PhifeMay 30, 20152 votes

no, but its really easy to spot out a shitty support.

You've got one of the easiest jobs in the game, you dont have to CS you just gotta pressure ur enemy lane from cs'ing and harass. Come late game, if you're just jerking around people notice that kinda of shit.

Hèntaî May 30, 20154 votes

But it seems to be even if you are a really good support, you still get slack.

SexyTaylorSwiftMay 30, 20154 votes

Not from good players you don't. If you're playing a good game as support and getting raged at, just laugh and call them a dumb dumb business major named Melvin.

Hèntaî May 30, 20152 votes

I shall add that to my list. Usually its clitsquiggle though XD

COWmanLordJun 1, 20151 votes

I had this happen the other day when I was playing nautilus. We lost that game mainly because we had people who took so long to group that tryndamere was able to splitpush super easily and shaco was able to keep killing our mid laner. The most surprising fact was that despite building full tank I had out damaged our kalista 12k to 10k over a 40 minute game. In the end however our vlad said that it was my fault for being a crap tank and not building righteous glory.

Heckin SupportMay 30, 20157 votes

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no, but its really easy to spot out a shitty support.

You've got one of the easiest jobs in the game, you dont have to CS you just gotta pressure ur enemy lane from cs'ing and harass. Come late game, if you're just jerking around people notice that kinda of shit.

If it's the easiest job in the game why doesn't everyone do it to climb elo? Support is such an important role, and its hard because you rely on your team so heavily. Play Soraka, Bard, Taric, then you can tell me how easy it is to be a support, keep vision, map awareness, your carries safe and tell me how you feel when you get yelled at because it's your fault the carry was out of position.

PhifeMay 31, 20151 votes

Like i said before, Support is easy. Does that mean its OP? No, its just a role like any other role in this game.

Think of supporting like CS:GO. Have you ever played CS:GO? there are a lot of guns to use, some weaker than others some harder to use / master. And then there is the AWP. you just aim it at a location and if you see someone.... BAM they're dead.

EASY to use but very powerful nonetheless.

MikeYeungsSmiteMay 31, 20151 votes

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Like i said before, Support is easy. Does that mean its OP? No, its just a role like any other role in this game.

Think of supporting like CS:GO. Have you ever played CS:GO? there are a lot of guns to use, some weaker than others some harder to use / master. And then there is the AWP. you just aim it at a location and if you see someone.... BAM they're dead.

EASY to use but very powerful nonetheless.

Support aint any easier than others bare adc. ADC=hardest.

PhifeMay 31, 20151 votes

If support isn't easy, than what is?

MikeYeungsSmiteMay 31, 20151 votes

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If support isn't easy, than what is?

Normal, no role is hard but adc.

PhifeMay 31, 20151 votes

I didnt ask what is it. i said whats easy?

Singing LarkMay 30, 201512 votes

{quoted} You've got one of the easiest jobs in the game

Say that again, I dare you.

Seriously kid. Support is a lot harder that just that.

CatastropMay 30, 201511 votes

You've got one of the easiest jobs in the game

You've played support right? Constant map awareness, usually the only one that wards, keep the carries safe and then the moment you make a mistake all that shit just magically didn't happen and you get yelled at. And god forbid you take 1 cs by accident 8 mins in, it's a capital crime. Support is one of the best roles to play when you want to master this game. Thanks to my support days I always upgrade my trinket and I always ping MIA at least 3 times, even in other lanes because I'm that aware of the map.

RIP ResonanceMay 31, 20152 votes

Nothing about playing support is easy. You're in a duo lane with a random who, knowing this community, is probably immature and going to blame you for their mistakes. You have to ward what you believe will be high traffic areas of the map, constantly. Every single time you go to ward a bush, you're putting your life on the line, so that your carries don't get destroyed. If you secure a kill, you're a shit support, while in reality, you were just making sure that the enemy Ezreal didn't get the opportunity to press "E" or Flash. Sure, bad supports do exist, but supporting is far from easy. It's not your support's job to carry you, it's your job to carry you. Hence the name Attack Damage Carry.

PhifeMay 31, 20151 votes

You can say the exact same thing for playing ADC, Im not talking about the psychology of laning when i say support is easy, Im talking mechanically.

You do a lot less than an ADC or mid / jung. Thats a fact.

But, if you want to play the "you dont know ur lane partner" game. I main mid so i can say with confidence ive lost over 40% of my games due to my bot lane being horrid, and thats just "my luck" for having a bot lane that sucks right? As a mid lane you have to depend on your ADC late game because if the ADC loses lane early / mid, it doesn't matter how great of a game you had as an Ap carry, you're gonna get roasted by their 12-4 vayne.

RIP ResonanceJun 1, 20153 votes

Supports and Junglers alike need to stand together. We collectively get 90% of the blame, because the carries have had one or two good games on their champion, so they think they're Gods.

I can say that Mid and ADC are the easiest roles in the game with confidence. You've just gotta CS, win trades, poke, roam, and maybe get a kill or two.

Supports/Junglers have to ward 90% of the game, because 9 times out of ten, your carries have no idea what wards are, yet blame everyone else when they get ganked. We have to worry about jungle objectives, poke, and knowing when to roam to help others out.

This is why I think Junglers/Supports make the best shot callers. We are your team fight. We die to save you, not because we like you, but because it's for the best of the team. Then, we get called "noob" because your arrogant ass thinks you're Faker.

Please watch this, before you blame another support for your loss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8N5yTdGhIU

PhifeJun 1, 20151 votes

Lmfao, mid / adc are easy....

why bother talking?

RIP ResonanceJun 1, 20151 votes

Yeah, you're right. CSing and winning trades is so hard man.

PhifeJun 1, 20151 votes

Supports don't even have to cs and win trades you fucking moron.

Everyone has to ward and everyone has to lane harass, poke, get kills, farm CS, dragon control, jungle control. You're argument that supports are harder than mid / ADC lanes is just sponsored by downs syndrome ltd.

RIP ResonanceJun 2, 20153 votes

Notice how pretty much everyone here is downvoting your posts, not only because you're toxic, but because you've never really played support, which is obvious. A good support can mean the difference between a won or a lost team fight.

PhifeJun 2, 20151 votes

Ive actually played support for two different diamond Ranked 5s teams.

And i know a great deal of supporting, probably more than you.

RIP ResonanceJun 2, 20151 votes

If you're an expert support player, then you should know the experience of playing support. It's great isn't it? Being told every insult in existence is great man. It really sets the tone for the game, and really makes you want to continue playing League of Legends.

PhifeJun 2, 20151 votes

THATS NOT DIFFICULTY, THATS EXPERIENCE.

SvddenlyMay 31, 20152 votes

I think you spelled jungler wrong.

MikeYeungsSmiteMay 31, 20152 votes

Only @bronze, Gold+=junglers fault xd