http://puu.sh/jFrZ3/2903ed2fb7.jpg - this team just no words.
http://puu.sh/jFs00/55a90b9149.jpg - no words again.
http://puu.sh/jFs3A/dce40489d2.jpg - yeah the regnar has 19 kill, however he wasn't the one who carried. Jinx and I took all turrets and nexus. He was just "showing off" as he claimed at the end. But look at everyone else...
am i that bad? that i am matched with those kind of players?
Sniper 02 votesBro just look at the statistics on this.... == We lost this game because I wasn't able to take towers by myself... lol
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1922889913/206501891
Hell Week1 votesBro just look at the statistics on this.... == We lost this game because I wasn't able to take towers by myself... lol
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1922889913/206501891
OH GOD FINALLY, someone who doesnt come to just tell me that it's entirely my fault.
Damn bro that sucks.. good job tho.
Sniper 01 votesThe only thing I can say if you get an early lead on mid you should be roaming or pushing the tower dependent on playstyle. :P map awareness is key. Mine was a ranked game. I dunno if you're roaming or not. :P
It's a normals match though buddy. :P don't take it seriously xD
Jubbinaut1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hell Week,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=BKjMGxXQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-08-18T07:15:59.993+0000)
OH GOD FINALLY, someone who doesnt come to just tell me that it's entirely my fault.
I don't think anyone on the thread at this point has actually said that - or anything implying that.
And it's missing the point, anyway. The only constant on your teams is you. Having a bad team is going to happen, but I can just about guarantee that not all of the players on your teams are that bad - maybe they're having a bad game, or they're on tilt, or they were just outplayed.
But you're the link between it all. You represent the only control you have over the average skill of your team. Whether you show that by playing hard carries and dominating games, or on play-maker champs and making the rest of your team look good, you are the one that determines your overall performance.
And honestly? I wouldn't even say you need to get better (although that would definitely help). What you need is to be more consistent. Because consistency is the real key to improvement.
jeremiahBIO1 voteswhere you the Annie?
Sniper 01 votesI was the zac? xD I mean I left my name unblurred.
Strat1 votesYou complain about players with bad scores and yet you get horrible scores all the time. Do you really expect to never ge teams with bad scores when you yourself get bad scores all the time?
am i that bad? that i am matched with those kind of players?
The simple and unfortunate truth is yes. Teams are random, you're the only constant. Sometimes you'll get teams that carry you, other times you'll carry them, but the main thing is that if you're seeing players of this calibre it's because that's what your MMR is putting you with.
Hell Week1 votesYou complain about players with bad scores and yet you get horrible scores all the time. Do you really expect to never ge teams with bad scores when you yourself get bad scores all the time?
The simple and unfortunate truth is yes. Teams are random, you're the only constant. Sometimes you'll get teams that carry you, other times you'll carry them, but the main thing is that if you're seeing players of this calibre it's because that's what your MMR is putting you with.
you mean my Yasuo games, bro you have no idea. that's why i stopped using him because i wreck and i get non stop ganks. 3+ every single time, that's why i cant use him because people see me as threat. But you're the all know it all player who knows what happens in game of all my games. He's my main, and when i use him people focus me like no tomorrow. Put that together with teams that don't know how engage and leave you to the all dirty work for them even worst.
EDIT: another reason i end up with bad scores, because the people i play with have bad scores as well. its only a matter of time when the fed enemy champion(S) comes and whoops my butt because of something i coudlnt prevent. yeah i go gank them, i ping, i ward, but man i can't play for other people. i cant tell them what to do if they dont listen. their desicions, not mine, i can't control them at all. just pray to god that the fed enemy champions are bad and go into team fights that will just get me killed as well. giving me the image of a bad player, but w/e. WHATEVER.
edit: my MMR is so bad 1.1k worst than standard bronze. it's that for sure, but i can't get out... too hard to carry all feeding lanes... if i can't get out of my normal mmr im not ready for ranked still.
Jubbinaut1 votesI think it more likely he was referring to this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1890337618/215356489?tab=overview
Or this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1890331658/215356489?tab=overview
Or this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1743860268/215356489?tab=overview
Or this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1742926556/215356489?tab=overview
Hell Week1 votesI think it more likely he was referring to this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1890337618/215356489?tab=overview
Or this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1890331658/215356489?tab=overview
Or this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1743860268/215356489?tab=overview
Or this one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1742926556/215356489?tab=overview
ROFL THOSE ARE 5v5 those people you see there are my irl friends. we played against plats+ the only good friend i have was yawwmean, he is barely ex gold. Oh god, please dont bring those up hahahaha. those are so irrelevant my god hahaha.
this is what i mean, i freeze lanes hardcore everytime i can. i ward but still i get camped a lot. the nid support went mid because i wouldn't let zed farm 1 bit. i still whooped their butt.
http://puu.sh/jFuw5/61739f6b9c.jpg
Im the 13 5 10 guy, we had them on their home turret because that's what happens when i get good teams. can't believe you guys were talking about my 5v5 with my irl friends that we really didn't take seriously on skype. not that we could because the people we played against were freakin insane either way, that's why we stopped because 5v5s are way too broken.
Jubbinaut1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hell Week,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=BKjMGxXQ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T06:47:29.563+0000)
ROFL THOSE ARE 5v5 those people you see there are my irl friends. we played against plats+ the only good friend i have was yawwmean, he is barely ex gold. Oh god, please dont bring those up hahahaha. those are so irrelevant my god hahaha.
Two of them are. Two of them aren't. Even if they are, they're certainly not irrelevant, and the point still stands.
Im the 13 5 10 guy, we had them on their home turret because that's what happens when i get good teams.
Ah, I get it now. You only complain about people with terrible scores when it costs you the game.
But, y'know, now that I'm looking through your op.gg history, and seeing all your Normals games, I have to say, I think I was wrong. I don't think the games I linked were the ones he was talking about at all. Rather, I suspect he was referring to these:
- 0/15/2 at lvl 6 ~2 days ago.
- 9/15/5 at lvl 18 ~3 days ago.
- 2/6/1 at lvl 14 ~4 days ago.
- 3/5/2 at lvl 10 ~4 days ago.
- 8/10/2 at lvl 18 ~4 days ago.
- 4/5/2 at lvl 12 ~14 days ago.
- 5/9/4 at lvl 18 ~17 days ago.
- 3/12/9 at lvl 15 ~19 days ago.
- 3/6/4 at lvl 15 ~19 days ago.
- 6/10/3 at lvl 15 ~19 days ago.
- 0/5/0 at lvl 10 ~20 days ago.
- 7/12/6 at lvl 18 ~20 days ago.
- 1/4/0 at lvl 11 ~21 days ago.
- 3/9/3 at lvl 16 ~21 days ago.
- 1/5/2 at lvl 9 ~22 days ago.
I hope that's enough information to help you find them - I never could figure out how to link specific games from op.gg.
can't believe you guys were talking about my 5v5 with my irl friends that we really didn't take seriously on skype. not that we could because the people we played against were freakin insane either way, that's why we stopped because 5v5s are way too broken.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't take Ranked Teams seriously, either.
Hell Week1 votesTwo of them are. Two of them aren't. Even if they are, they're certainly not irrelevant, and the point still stands.
Ah, I get it now. You only complain about people with terrible scores when it costs you the game.
But, y'know, now that I'm looking through your op.gg history, and seeing all your Normals games, I have to say, I think I was wrong. I don't think the games I linked were the ones he was talking about at all. Rather, I suspect he was referring to these:
I hope that's enough information to help you find them - I never could figure out how to link specific games from op.gg.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't take Ranked Teams seriously, either.
goodjob wasting your time just to prove a point, like i said those games are not entirely my fault. yes i did bad, but so did the rest of my team most likely. if you can check them you will see im not the one with a bad score because that happens when the enemy team is fed.
the worst one is the jax 0 15, decided to troll because my team was so bad they were ignoring my ganks. so i decided to give them the lose. another person who thinks they know it all, you were there in every single game. since you were there you probably have the right to tell me it was all my fault.
EDIT: i just checked yours.... oh god get out of here please LOLOLOLOL. dont make me copy and paste all your losses, even your wins are on a bad score.
Jubbinaut1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hell Week,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=BKjMGxXQ,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T07:25:27.242+0000)
goodjob wasting your time just to prove a point, like i said those games are not entirely my fault. yes i did bad, but so did the rest of my team most likely. if you can check them you will see im not the one with a bad score because that happens when the enemy team is fed.
I never said those games were entirely your fault. Neither did the person who brought up the original point.
As he stated: "You complain about players with bad scores and yet you get horrible scores all the time. Do you really expect to never get teams with bad scores when you yourself get bad scores all the time?"
Except, I would have put it a different way: "Isn't it a bit hypocritical to complain about others showing similar performances to some of yours?"
the worst one is the jax 0 15, decided to troll because my team was so bad they were ignoring my ganks. so i decided to give them the lose. another person who thinks they know it all, you were there in every single game. since you were there you probably have the right to tell me it was all my fault.
You're missing the point - and I think you're doing it intentionally. That's okay, I don't mind. The facts are what the facts are.
EDIT: i just checked yours.... oh god get out of here please LOLOLOLOL. dont make me copy and paste all your losses, even your wins are on a bad score.
Go ahead. I never said I was any good, and I've got nothing to be ashamed of.
Hell Week1 votesI never said those games were entirely your fault. Neither did the person who brought up the original point.
As he stated: "You complain about players with bad scores and yet you get horrible scores all the time. Do you really expect to never get teams with bad scores when you yourself get bad scores all the time?"
Except, I would have put it a different way: "Isn't it a bit hypocritical to complain about others showing similar performances to some of yours?"
You're missing the point - and I think you're doing it intentionally. That's okay, I don't mind. The facts are what the facts are.
Go ahead. I never said I was any good, and I've got nothing to be ashamed of.
let me throw this at you, the game i just played.
http://puu.sh/jFxYv/f69c22d4b2.jpg
and back to the people i play with, no man they're not very experienced people... trust me i know when i see a bad player. its easy to tell... they show signs of being scared, miss skill shots, dont know when to engage when to not, their desicion making is poop, uhmm just basic things. the people i play with lack in EVERYTHING. im mean yes its normal to get bad teams once in a while... but back to back to back to back to freakin BACK... that just feels like the game is telling you to get the freakin off.
yes we all have bad games, but i mean im not talking about losing the games.. im talking about those non experienced people im constantly matched with. so close to my first penta with mord ughhhh.
Sniper 01 votesEveryone misses skillshots... lol That's a pretty universal thing. Skill shots come down to predicting the enemy movement and sometimes the enemy just moves in a way you wouldn't expect. lol
Jubbinaut1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hell Week,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=BKjMGxXQ,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T08:15:52.073+0000)
let me throw this at you, the game i just played.
Okay? I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. I mean, I have a perfect game under my belt, too.
and back to the people i play with, no man they're not very experienced people... trust me i know when i see a bad player. its easy to tell... they show signs of being scared, miss skill shots, dont know when to engage when to not, their desicion making is poop, uhmm just basic things. the people i play with lack in EVERYTHING. im mean yes its normal to get bad teams once in a while... but back to back to back to back to freakin BACK... that just feels like the game is telling you to get the freakin off.
The point, though, is that the only thing consistent in those games is you. That's not to say that everything's all your fault. Rather, it's a prompt to see where you could have played better or done more in those games (and we both know you could have done more and played better in all of them - because that's true of literally everyone that's ever played).
The more you improve, the more often you'll win. The more often you win, the more your MMR increases. The more your MMR increases, the better - on average - your teammates (and opponents!) will be.
And that doesn't mean every game is winnable. There will be trolls and afks and bad games. But individual games also aren't a terribly good measure of anything - there's too many other factors involved. What matters is overall performance - which is best indicated by considering multiple games. One of the best things you can do there is simply be more consistent.
That's the only real point anyone is trying to make, here: focusing on your team's performance in any particular game isn't going to do you any good, because you have no direct control over that (though you can influence it). As such, it's more generally beneficial to focus on your own performance.
yes we all have bad games, but i mean im not talking about losing the games.. im talking about those non experienced people im constantly matched with. so close to my first penta with mord ughhhh.
If you're being matched with them that often, it's almost certainly because you're pretty close to the same overall skill level.
And remember that there are many different skills involved in the game, and different people have developed different ones.
Hell Week1 votesOkay? I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. I mean, I have a perfect game under my belt, too.
The point, though, is that the only thing consistent in those games is you. That's not to say that everything's all your fault. Rather, it's a prompt to see where you could have played better or done more in those games (and we both know you could have done more and played better in all of them - because that's true of literally everyone that's ever played).
The more you improve, the more often you'll win. The more often you win, the more your MMR increases. The more your MMR increases, the better - on average - your teammates (and opponents!) will be.
And that doesn't mean every game is winnable. There will be trolls and afks and bad games. But individual games also aren't a terribly good measure of anything - there's too many other factors involved. What matters is overall performance - which is best indicated by considering multiple games. One of the best things you can do there is simply be more consistent.
That's the only real point anyone is trying to make, here: focusing on your team's performance in any particular game isn't going to do you any good, because you have no direct control over that (though you can influence it). As such, it's more generally beneficial to focus on your own performance.
If you're being matched with them that often, it's almost certainly because you're pretty close to the same overall skill level.
And remember that there are many different skills involved in the game, and different people have developed different ones.
for example bro this recent game i played. I called top, but another person wanted top so i did what a good player would do.. i gave it to him because i rather go any lane and give that player a chance where he feels more comfortable. So i went mid as Mord, unlucky me i get a Anivia... a pretty hard Mord counter. Guess what.. i owned her because i know how she works. So i was ahead, started roaming because our lee was too busy farming up went top and took Hecs tower, sadly couldn't get more than 2 kills on him because he would just ult away. The player i gave top to went 2 6, my mistake.... if i went top as Mord ive wouldve denied him any chance of farm and still ward to avoid ganks just like i did mid. This player didn't ward, he was obv new to the new fiora. I got unlucky. Bot lane was a disaster as well, went but they would just escape because our bard/jinx did not know how their stuns work and didn't see them land 1 at all. Our lee thought farming up would help him more, but he didn't realize our team needed help and that's what mattered. I pinged, but he would just stay mid and farm it up... the anivia was behind she was 0 threat, but he obv didn't know his priorities. That right there is what i meant of me getting bad players. I don't care about losing if the match, i took mid/top turrets, i gave so many ganks, tried my best, but nop... the teams effort was pretty bad from their part so we lost. i just decided to ff because i didn't see any potential in them at all. lose? i don't care about losing, the quality of players is what bugs me.
the end, what a great story.
Markus Kruber1 votesMMR chose u
