Where are all the Good and Neutral Mages?

AnOpenMind··1 votes·975 views

I've noticed for awhile now that balance between good, neutral, and evil nature mages is greatly unbalanced in favor of evil natured mages. I like evil characters as much as the next guy, but dang, show some love to good and neutral mages lol. (The list below doesn't include primary sup or assassins) Good Nature: Anivia Heimerdinger Karma Lux Ziggs
Evil Nature: Brand Cassiopeia Elise Fiddlesticks Karthus Lissandra Malzahar Morgana Swain Syndra Veigar Velkoz Viktor Vladimir Xerath Neutral Nature: Ahri Annie Azir Kennen Orianna Ryze TwistedFate Zyra

23 Comments

Yatsufuså3 votes

Well come on we're all forgetting the number 1 mage of all time.

Urgot

AnOpenMind1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Verdauga Green,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=AOzE2AE5,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-10-24T00:11:30.067+0000)

Well come on we're all forgetting the number 1 mage of all time.

Urgot

You're right I completely forgot about him lol :p

AnOpenMind1 votes

Forgot to add Azir to Neutral my bad.

Tikkid1 votes

Kennen is a neutral mage :p thats all I have but othertwise I agree

AnOpenMind1 votes

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Kennen is a neutral mage :p thats all I have but othertwise I agree

I always considered him a good mage since hes in the same order as Shen and Akali, could be wrong tho lol

Tikkid2 votes

the trio are the epitomy of neutral though their entire goal is to preserve Balance.

AnOpenMind1 votes

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the trio are the epitomy of neutral though their entire goal is to preserve Balance.

Alright, editted him to the neutral selection lol

Delta F5081 votes

Kassadin is a good mage. Wants to keep the void where it belongs.

AnOpenMind1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Delta F508,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=AOzE2AE5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-10-23T22:19:36.490+0000)

Kassadin is a good mage. Wants to keep the void where it belongs.

Didn't include primary assassins to the list lol

Raoul1 votes

Heimer and Ziggs dont really fit the good mage theme. Heimerdinger is an inventor, not a mage, he uses technologie and science. He does AP damage, true, but hes no mage. Same goes for Ziggs. Viktor too. no magic at all in these three.

In their lore, there is no magic involved, they use technologie.

Edit: Forgot Orianna, also not a mage, everything she does, she does with technologie.

I know, they all count as "mage" in case of gamplay class, but lorewise, they do not use any magic.

AnOpenMind1 votes

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Heimer and Ziggs dont really fit the good mage theme. Heimerdinger is an inventor, not a mage, he uses technologie and science. He does AP damage, true, but hes no mage. Same goes for Ziggs.

In their lore, there is no magic involved, they use technologie.

I'd agree but they're in the mage grouping so I included them lol

1 800 GGTOOEZ1 votes

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Heimer and Ziggs dont really fit the good mage theme. Heimerdinger is an inventor, not a mage, he uses technologie and science. He does AP damage, true, but hes no mage. Same goes for Ziggs.

Ziggs uses [b]hexplosives[/b] (magic-based explosives.) His title is "The Hexplosives Expert."

Crett1 votes

Morgana and Viktor are NOT evil

AnOpenMind1 votes

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Morgana and Viktor are NOT evil

The original Viktor before he changed himself I'd agree with you but the robot nature took over and wants to forcefully change people to the robot hybrids so that's why I included him in evil. For Morgana I can see the argument for her not being evil, but I doubt that was the original idea for her by riot so I included her there too.

Lusden1 votes

Annie isn't evil - she's just a kid with a lot of power, but nothing in her lore shows her misusing it. Very much a neutral.

AnOpenMind1 votes

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Annie isn't evil - she's just a kid with a lot of power, but nothing in her lore shows her misusing it. Very much a neutral.

Guess you're right haha, its been awhile since I've read her lore. Wasn't even sure if it still mattered since the retcon. Ill move her.

Wind Whistler1 votes

Karthus is good natured. He wants to free everyone from life, which he views as a curse instead of a gift. Viktor is also good natured. He wants to improve all humans and remove their negative emotions, such as greed and jealousy. Azir is good natured as well. He seeks to bring back his entire kingdom and save everybody who was killed by Xerath. Zyra is pretty evil if you ask me. She and her entire species killed anything that came into their sight, eventually leading themselves to near extinction due to the lack of prey in the area. Also, I'm pretty sure Vladimir is neutral, as once he realized he had killed two people just to see blood, he ran away to some other place so he wouldn't kill anyone else.

AnOpenMind1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wind Whistler,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=AOzE2AE5,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-10-24T05:13:54.143+0000)

Karthus is good natured. He wants to free everyone from life, which he views as a curse instead of a gift. Viktor is also good natured. He wants to improve all humans and remove their negative emotions, such as greed and jealousy. Azir is good natured as well. He seeks to bring back his entire kingdom and save everybody who was killed by Xerath. Zyra is pretty evil if you ask me. She and her entire species killed anything that came into their sight, eventually leading themselves to near extinction due to the lack of prey in the area. Also, I'm pretty sure Vladimir is neutral, as once he realized he had killed two people just to see blood, he ran away to some other place so he wouldn't kill anyone else.

With Karthus, and Viktor if you look at it from their point of view then sure they're good except to everyone that wants to live their life. You can make pretty much any evil person in history look good by just doing that. As an example: Hitler wanted to preserve Germany's culture and grow its borders to let his people prosper at the expense of any non German person who got in the way. For Azir we don't know how he feels toward anyone outside of the Shurima Lore thing, he could side with Noxus because of the lineage he shares with Sivir. Not saying that all of Noxus is evil just the vast majority. Zyra was a plant when that happened, essentially a much larger version of a venus fly trap or sundew plant which gets its nutrients from living things. Can't really blame her for that because that's her natural instinct to kill and eat. Since she fused with the sorcerer she just became a human/plant hybrid version of that, with the capability to make alliances and enemies which we have yet to see. Vladimir you only looked at one pert of the lore, he also practiced his blood magic on travelers, his teacher knew that he was evil thats why he taught him the blood magic.

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

KassadinSoraka Ezreal Zilean ? Heimerdinger Orianna Ziggs Viktor are not mages except by gameplay standards, but then champs like Katarina and Ekko would be "mages."

AnOpenMind1 votes

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KassadinSoraka Ezreal Zilean ? Heimerdinger Orianna Ziggs Viktor are not mages except by gameplay standards, but then champs like Katarina and Ekko would be "mages."

Only added primary mages to the list

Billy VoHagen1 votes

Morgana isn't necessarily evil, nor is Viktor. I'd also say Ryze is more neutral.

AnOpenMind1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Billy VoHagen,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=AOzE2AE5,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2015-10-25T00:38:20.930+0000)

Morgana isn't necessarily evil, nor is Viktor. I'd also say Ryze is more neutral.

Mentioned Morg and Viktor in previous comments lol, for Ryze I can see it so I'll edit him to neutral

Angry Monster1 votes

good and evil are such binary concepts. You need to take philo class and move away from such hard line point of views.

Syndra is more chaotic but not evil. Vickor is more lawful neutral

evil usually means ""I do not agree"". While you may not agree, the winners get to write history and spin their POV.

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