Abuse towards girl gamers

Mermaid Season··3 votes·1,988 views

In the vast majority of the games we all hear comments like “that is so gay” etc as if being gay or homosexual is an offense. I don’t care if this is how you speak nowadays or whatever excuse you use, it is not cool at all. You might think it’s not a big deal since you really don’t mean anything bad by it, but to some like myself, it really is offensive. All the negativity and hatred we all have to deal with, just has to stop. I’m sure we all have to deal with it from time to time in any form, and I’m just as sure we’re all just as tired of it. We’d enjoy the game so much more if we all were a little bit more positive and encouraging so please just ditch all the offensive crap and start spreading the love instead.

Aaaand, now to why I actually decided to write this post in the first place. I just finished an Aram where I had to deal with a very toxic Ashe who decided to flame the butt out of me for not being a player to his/her standards and for being a girl RL. I was being called names I am sure would not be allowed anywhere near this forum so I won’t give any examples. I sent in a report, and I am sure other players did as well, but what happens now? Is this even being dealt with? This player laughed when we said we were reporting his abuse and it’s not the first time I get that reaction. Nobody seems to believe this matters, that they can say and do whatever they please but I still have hopes for the opposite.

Who stands up for me? Am I protected in any other way than with the mute-button?

PS. And for the record, I don’t tell I am gay, and I rareeeellyyy admit to being a girl even, although my name gives a hint I guess.

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Drunk Rummate10 votes

Here's something that a lot of "victimized" people don't seem to understand.

Everyone gets made fun of

There are bullies. They're especially common on the internet where there aren't any repercussions. It doesn't matter if I'm gay, female, black, white, christian, muslim or anything because they will find something to insult me for.

You don't see me on here complaining because someone called me a basement dweller - and yes, I do live in my parents basement. I'm 24 and just getting started on a career after finishing college a couple years ago. Houses are fucking expensive. So just because someone is making fun of you for something doesn't mean that it's specifically targeted towards your gender, or religion, or sexuality, or anything. People are just assholes, that's really all there is to it.

So your topic really shouldn't be about abuse towards girl gamers. That's incredibly self centered. Your topic should be "people should stop being complete assholes all the time." That would probably get better traction, friend.

Tooterpillar2 votes

Here's something that a lot of "victimized" people don't seem to understand.

Everyone gets made fun of

There are bullies. They're especially common on the internet where there aren't any repercussions. It doesn't matter if I'm gay, female, black, white, christian, muslim or anything because they will find something to insult me for.

You don't see me on here complaining because someone called me a basement dweller - and yes, I do live in my parents basement. I'm 24 and just getting started on a career after finishing college a couple years ago. Houses are fucking expensive. So just because someone is making fun of you for something doesn't mean that it's specifically targeted towards your gender, or religion, or sexuality, or anything. People are just assholes, that's really all there is to it.

^^^^ This.

Mermaid Season3 votes

Sure, everyone has to deal with it, whether it is here or in RL. It still doesn't make it ok. And it is ok to complain. In fact, I think we all should stand up for what we believe is right and fight the wrong.

There are many reasons for abuse sure but this is what I was targeted for and therefor what I bring up. Feel free to make a thread about your basement issue.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

Sure, everyone has to deal with it, whether it is here or in RL. It still doesn't make it ok. And it is ok to complain. In fact, I think we all should stand up for what we believe is right and fight the wrong.

There are many reasons for abuse sure but this is what I was targeted for and therefor what I bring up. Feel free to make a thread about your basement issue.

That's the thing. I don't need to make a thread about people insulting me because I know there's already a system in place dealing with those people actively. Just look around these forums closely enough and you'll see people complaining about chat restrictions, ranked restrictions, and bans on a fairly regular basis. Riot has made it extremely clear that they take toxic player behavior very seriously and that they punish people who deserve punishment.

I put my faith in the system because Riot has given us evidence that it works, that they care. I understand that there are assholes out there. It's just a simple fact that not everyone is going to be nice, and the internet has a way of bringing out the asshole in people, some of whom are often nice in person!

YES I agree, it's NOT okay to insult people. But it's not okay to insult anyone. And I understand you probably don't mean it, but your original post makes it seem you think that people who insult girls and gays is a bigger issue than the fact that people also insult religion and race and a huge number of other things just as frequently, if not more.

Rather than make a positive thread about reducing toxicity in our community, you're making a whine thread that's solely focused on your problem. It doesn't come off as productive at all, and it's only going to garner more toxicity from the people doing it in the first place.

Tooterpillar3 votes

Note - I'm a girl.

First, your title could have been "abusive players" instead of "abuse towards gamer girls". I'm sure that abusive player was a jerk and saying how girls can't play video games and whatnot. But, frankly, just because you are a girl, then you shouldn't be treated in a special way. That's what your post sounds like.

Second, yes, if the person is reported enough and they severely have a bad streak of being a jerk, they will be suspended then possibly banned.

Mermaid Season2 votes

I am sure we can look past the chosen title of my post instead of getting stuck there and perhaps even miss the message that I wanted to get across.

And no, I do not ask for special treatment. I ask to not be a target for abuse, no matter what the reason behind it is. In my own case, since I can only speak for myself, it is the sexist remarks because I am a girl. That is not a favor in any way. I just want to be able to play the game without as you mention yourself - being told that girls can't play video games, that I am nothing but a **** C-Word, etc etc.

Godly Pro3 votes

There is a lot of trollness towards girl gamers on this. My g/f plays and if she doesn't build what people want, do bad in csing, or dieing to much. I see people chat and rage hard. She doesn't report and she doesn't read it personally. I mostly take screen shots and report people for her. Regardless what that other supposed "Female" gamer said, Women do get treated differently on this game. Culturally women are different. We do and like the same things however a man doesn't treat another man like a woman. In this aspect you have to accept in order for us to have acceptable appreciation for one another. I do feel bad for some female gamers as if the name of that person reveals sex or orientation they will get raged at more then a female with a neutral sounding IGN. I do hope that when players rage on girls and when they are reported that riot views this as sexism and perma bans those players. I applaud any female gamer and I love seeing them get into games. Growing up being a gamer you were viewed as some Nerd who is a virgin. Now gamers have that proud female gamer support and I feel as a community we should give back to the women and be respectful treat them as another gamer and just enjoy the game together.

Mermaid Season3 votes

Thank you from both me and my girlfriend. It feels good to see a post like this.

Yandere Carry3 votes

In the vast majority of the games we all hear comments like “that is so gay” etc as if being gay or homosexual is an offense. I don’t care if this is how you speak nowadays or whatever excuse you use, it is not cool at all. You might think it’s not a big deal since you really don’t mean anything bad by it, but to some like myself, it really is offensive. All the negativity and hatred we all have to deal with, just has to stop. I’m sure we all have to deal with it from time to time in any form, and I’m just as sure we’re all just as tired of it. We’d enjoy the game so much more if we all were a little bit more positive and encouraging so please just ditch all the offensive crap and start spreading the love instead.

Aaaand, now to why I actually decided to write this post in the first place. I just finished an Aram where I had to deal with a very toxic Ashe who decided to flame the butt out of me for not being a player to his/her standards and for being a girl RL. I was being called names I am sure would not be allowed anywhere near this forum so I won’t give any examples. I sent in a report, and I am sure other players did as well, but what happens now? Is this even being dealt with? This player laughed when we said we were reporting his abuse and it’s not the first time I get that reaction. Nobody seems to believe this matters, that they can say and do whatever they please but I still have hopes for the opposite.

Who stands up for me? Am I protected in any other way than with the mute-button?

PS. And for the record, I don’t tell I am gay, and I rareeeellyyy admit to being a girl even, although my name gives a hint I guess.

So, I am going to address a lot of stuff here.

First off, your post, title, everything, screams woe is me. The way your presenting it has you as some helpless victim that needs to be catered to. I see you asking people to just move past that. Well the issue, they can't because you wrote it that way. Why not make it less skewed?

Following this is the reference to reporting. You act as if you, again, deserve special treatment beyond the norm. "I reported them but what's next?" Well... If they're being assholes constantly and really aren't just having a really bad day, then they will get punished by tribunal. Simple as that.

If they are just having a bad day and this is a small incident within a wide span of games, they don't deserve punishment. Do you really want bans for ANYTIME ANYONE GETS UPSET AND RAGES! F$%# THOSE GUYS RIGHT?! No, that's basically you doing what they would be getting punished for.

Let's say they do this often and then they get punished. Is it that you want to know they got banned? Know how long? That's ridiculous. If you feel the need to see out their tribunal case this isn't about right and wrong, it's about you. You wanna see them pay for upsetting you. That's childish. I'm not saying that's what you meant, but that's what it comes off as.

Is it a matter of not trusting Riot? They said "here is how the report system works." It's simple and explained thoroughly. Honestly, there is no reason for them to not do it. It isn't like the tribunal is just made up for funzies. They are a sincere company making something for the enjoyment of everyone.


Here's another thing that you might not like. I realize it upsets you, but people that say phrases such as "that's so gay" are going to continue to do it. They don't say it to offend you, and it shouldn't offend you. Why shouldn't it? Because you are perfectly aware of what they mean by that. That's like me deciding you can't say guacamole anymore "because I find it offensive!" It's a word. Words literally have zero meaning unless we give it to them.

For example: Shit, Shithead, Flipping someone off In Chinese the word for snow sounds like you're saying shit In arabic Shi'thead is a normal name (im aware of pronunciation differences) Flipping someone off now and flipping someone off originally, while both meaning the general "f%&$ you" had very different meanings behind them now it's generally offensive, but originally it was done by archers to show they still had their fingers (captured POW archers would have their fingers chopped off)


Also, you need to take a step back and think. This is because you are probably incredibly biased since the key things you see as a problem are directly related to/core aspects of your life (gay and female). The reason I say this is actually explained in a very "edgy" show, Drawn Together, where they create a character that is literally part of every group they tend to make fun of. Point being is that you just need take a step back, rethink, and repost a better worded thread.


Summary TL;DR: I dislike your post because you seem to be playing the victim too much and asking for special treatment. I think this thread should be remade after you've taken time to think of a better way to present your point.

Mermaid Season1 votes
  1. I am not a helpless victim, but I don't see anything wrong with using the word victim either (even though I have never used it. You did), in general or even in this or any other case. It's not shameful or wrong in my opinion. A helpless victim, to me, is rather someone who cries and complains but do nothing about the situation. I don't do that. I am here, doing something about it and that hardly makes me helpless. I'm speaking up for myself and for what I believe in.

  2. I do not ask for special treatment. I ask for being treated with respect, as everyone else should as well. No matter if you are black, fat, short, girl, boy, living in a basement, acne issues... You name it. We all deserve respect and I do not see that as any special treatment. It's a human right, even in an online game as League of Legends. We are all responsible for what we say and do and how we treat others.

  3. I ask what happens next because of one simple reason only - I did not know. I have been informed now and have understood more. Before that I did not. I don't trust Riot? I can't say either to be honest as I am still pretty new to the game or rather, I have, until now, only logged in to do a few games here and there and then logged out. I rarely speak in game even other than the occasional GG and GJ, and this has been my first visit to the forums as well. So again, I had no knowledge and therefore I asked. I got answers.

  4. I know people will continue to say "that is so gay" and "I'll rape you" etc. It doesn't mean it's ok. Perhaps in your book, but certainly not in mine. So again - I speak up and let people know my opinion about the matter. Being quiet equals accepting.

  5. I speak of my experiences but I can not speak for others. I speak for myself and my friends and girlfriend. And as biased as that might be, this is my reality and an issue that I have and wanted to know how it's being dealt with. Feel free to make posts about what concerns you.

  6. My Words are not free for your interpretations. Instead, feel free to ask and I will answer. I respect your opinions but I do not share them.

Yandere Carry1 votes

Unfortunately free speech is a thing so your book doesn't dictate society. Your words are free for my interpretation, because you formed them in a way in which they could be interpreted poorly. Also, I don't really know anyone that just throws out the phrase "I'll rape you." You should probably pick different friends.

You are entitled to your opinions, but they are shallow.

Mermaid Season1 votes

If I would allow you to interpret what I say however you like, god knows what you come up with. Claiming I said or want this or that. Instead as I said, feel free to ask me what I mean instead of giving my words a whole different meaning than the intentional one. As for the rape part - my friends have never said anything like it. Some fellow gamers in League of Legends have. I'm sure you too have heard the word "rape" being said in some form.

That is your opinion. Again, I do not share yours.

Yandere Carry1 votes

I brought this up to every female friend and gay friend I have. It seems like you are alone outside your personal circle on this issue. You're overreacting imo. Sorry, but good luck to you.

AnotherAccBanned2 votes

Go hug a tree.

DrCyanide2 votes

In the vast majority of the games we all hear comments like “that is so gay” etc as if being gay or homosexual is an offense.

Uh... how does that relate to abuse towards girl gamers?

Mermaid Season2 votes

Keep Reading. I am sure you can live with those lines even though they were not included in the title.

Xemeron2 votes

"OMG, I am Gurl gamer, pls be nice to me..." "Just shut up and play!" "OMG, you sexist, I report you!!!"

"Seriously, could you damn noob stop feeding?" "OMG; you only flame me cause I am gamer Guurl! I cant even! YOu reported!"

SUPPOURT SUPPOUR1 votes

maybe change summoner name to something that doesn't imply that you are different and you wont be treated differently

Megachile1 votes

It is called a mute button. I have seen so many players laugh at the report option, and I myself have never been punished for ANYTHING besides going afk in game. For future reference, just make the username DykeOnABike, then it clears it up any questions for your fellow players.

AnotherAccBanned1 votes

Aaaand, now to why I actually decided to write this post in the first place. I just finished an Aram where I had to deal with a very toxic Ashe who decided to flame the butt out of me for not being a player to his/her standards and for being a girl RL. I was being called names I am sure would not be allowed anywhere near this forum so I won’t give any examples. I sent in a report, and I am sure other players did as well, but what happens now? Is this even being dealt with? This player laughed when we said we were reporting his abuse and it’s not the first time I get that reaction. Nobody seems to believe this matters, that they can say and do whatever they please but I still have hopes for the opposite.

Who stands up for me? Am I protected in any other way than with the mute-button?

PS. And for the record, I don’t tell I am gay, and I rareeeellyyy admit to being a girl even, although my name gives a hint I guess.

Please stop playing video games and go back to real life where you have to ignore what people say or think unless they're your boss or law enforcement.

Android Cowboy1 votes

you whine like a girl

SarahElle1 votes

It is not because you are a girl, there is no special attack mode, because of women who play video games. People are just bullies and they've found something to bully you over. It doesn't matter what is it, in this instance, it happened to be because of your gender. If you had been anything else but a lady, that person would have still tried to find your hot button, and upset you.

People heat up quickly over this game, and when they decide to vent their frustration on another player, they will typically go for something they assume will hurt the most. In this case, you being a woman, and the accusation that you are not a worthy player because of your gender.

As a lady myself, I rarely see this happen to me. I have not had one instance that I can recall, of anyone hating over my gender in relation to my skill, or lack there of.

This isn't some special need to be investigated, in my honest opinion. You worry that no one stands up for you, but what about those who are gay, or have slower machines, or live with their parents, or have autism or whatever it may be. Everyone's in the same boat when it comes to harassment on LOL.

You were targeted by a bully, and no doubt that bully has targeted many others who were not female. Mute, report and move on.

Mermaid Season2 votes

I do agree with what you are saying, but I don't want to stop with just the mute button. I chose to make my very first visit even to the forums and make a post, because perhaps (gosh, I am so naive) there will be one or two people out there reading my little post who might think twice next time... Perhaps. It's worth a try at least and it is definitly better than doing nothing.

Basically my whole friends' list consists of girl gamers - friends, people I know from other games and my girlfriend. We all feel the same. We're all fed up. This is what we have to deal with from time to time. I can only speak for myself and for us. For all the other million reasons people will be flame you for.. well, someone else will have to fight for that. I chose sexism.

SarahElle1 votes

I do agree with what you are saying, but I don't want to stop with just the mute button. I chose to make my very first visit even to the forums and make a post, because perhaps (gosh, I am so naive) there will be one or two people out there reading my little post who might think twice next time... Perhaps. It's worth a try at least and it is definitly better than doing nothing.

Basically my whole friends' list consists of girl gamers - friends, people I know from other games and my girlfriend. We all feel the same. We're all fed up. This is what we have to deal with from time to time. I can only speak for myself and for us. For all the other million reasons people will be flame you for.. well, someone else will have to fight for that. I chose sexism.

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I didn't care that you got flamed. Its not ok to be a jerk no matter what. Your feelings are valid. I think you're post came off a little too..I am not sure what to say..high priority maybe is what I am looking to describe it. I am sure you didn't mean for it to, you are reacting to the toxic and negative attitude of the gamers on LOL in general, right? There is a lot of that, all I meant to point out is, being a female gamer, and getting flack for it, is really not one that happens a whole lot (at least to me. Though I can not deny or agree its something that happens a lot to you).

Pryotra1 votes

Oh look, another woman complaining about how she was treated on the internet. Please, go into great detail on your trials and tribulations. -This native american's thoughts on the matter.

Seriously, grow up. Everyone gets called names. At least you can mute, report, and move on.

Commit Sudoku1 votes

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Mermaid Season1 votes

If you are not ok with people calling you the n-word, then you should speak up. Don't accept it. If you think it's perfectly fine well, then you have no problem there. Me however, I do not think it's ok. Not what I get to hear because I am a girl or gay and it's not ok that people are being called the N-Word but that is how I am.

I do find it offensive and at times, I do get sad about it. That is how I am - human. Most of the time I don't take it personal but occasionally I do, like today. And really, it's ok to have feelings even in an online game.

And no, it's not my fault someone decided to call me names.

Commit Sudoku1 votes

Its only offensive if you make it so. So its your fault if you find it offensive.

Meehehe1 votes

After reading this post and hearing many stories of female abuse in the gaming industry we really should have a harsher tribunal for people being sexist. Saying things like i am going to r@#e you, you dumb girl is hurtful even if it is in a game. When a person kills themselves because of cyber bullying people get charged with the death of the person, so saying words don't hurt people is a load of S**T.

gourl881 votes

You're equal here. You have the same tools that males have. Use the mute button and report feature if needed. Otherwise, don't be surprised when trolls try to exploit a perceived weakness.

Being gay, female, brown, black, or mentally handicapped is only a weakness if you allow it to be.

Mermaid Season1 votes

That's the thing... I don't think I am being treated as an equal. Sexist remarks is not being treated as an equal. Sure, I can mute just like everyone else and I sure am but it doesn't stop them from being abusive to others. However, this post might help. I mean, it is possible that someone who reads my posts think twice next time or perhaps I have made someone out there aware of this problem. Someone else who will speak up next time they see someone being abusive in any way, no matter if it's sexist remarks, racist, homophobic etc.

I don't see being gay or female as a weakness. Not at all. I am proud of who I am. I certainly don't allow it to be treated as a weakness either as I am here speaking my mind and telling everyone how I feel about it. That I don't think it's ok. That I do not accept it. I knew I'd get a whole bunch of shit thrown at me for speaking up, but who am I if I always sit quiet and don't fight for what I think is right?

gourl881 votes

That's the thing... I don't think I am being treated as an equal. Sexist remarks is not being treated as an equal. Sure, I can mute just like everyone else and I sure am but it doesn't stop them from being abusive to others. However, this post might help. I mean, it is possible that someone who reads my posts think twice next time or perhaps I have made someone out there aware of this problem. Someone else who will speak up next time they see someone being abusive in any way, no matter if it's sexist remarks, racist, homophobic etc.

I don't see being gay or female as a weakness. Not at all. I am proud of who I am. I certainly don't allow it to be treated as a weakness either as I am here speaking my mind and telling everyone how I feel about it. That I don't think it's ok. That I do not accept it. I knew I'd get a whole bunch of shit thrown at me for speaking up, but who am I if I always sit quiet and don't fight for what I think is right?

Nope. You're playing the victim for attention or some other b.s. reason. Use the mute or report feature. NOBODY KNOWS you're female unless you open your mouth looking for attention.

D0nC1 votes

Here OP, I know you need attention.

Ayzmo1 votes

Am I the only one who sees half of the posts in this thread as a pretty good example of the problem? It is fine to argue points. But posts of "You whine like a girl" have nothing to do with her points and really just demonstrate the problem she made a post about. Nope. No problem here.

Mermaid Season1 votes

Mhmmm. We were just saying that as well. That I got some pretty good help proving my point and could just sit back and relax now. Unfortunately, I don't think most realize just that. Anyway, I think we're pretty much done here. Take care.

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