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Season Rewards/Negation Possibility Due to Bans

WunderLion··3 votes·480 views

To Riot, and all those who have heard about the potential loss of rewards to those who received bans, I have a suggestion. To preface this, I received a 2 week ban this season for calling someone trash. I get that this is not cool behavior. However, this is my ONLY ban I have ever received. I have been playing League since just after it came out of beta. You know, the days when Jax stacked 5 ninja tabi for the dodge stat ;). In that time, what is that, 6 years? I have received one (1) ban, this season. i'm never racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. My toxicity is something like "dude you're bad", and that's rare. We all have that game that just gets to us.

Riot, you should not take away our rewards this season. People work hard for their position, and the game has made great strides in becoming a more welcoming environment. I suggest that instead of taking away rewards this season, let people have their rewards. Then, at the beginning of next season, announce that anyone who receives any sort of ban or chat restriction will not be eligible for rewards. This way, instead of blindsiding people and hitting people with that harsh penalty, you'll let them know beforehand that any sort of poor behavior will result in punishment. This is a good way to prevent toxicity without taking people by surprise. The given goal behind punishment in League is to cause reform, not to push people away. If people understand the implications of their poor behavior, they will be much more careful in their words and actions. That's my take, at least, and I believe it is highly in line with what Riot hopes to accomplish with their system of punishment and reward.

-Wavebreaker

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SmokedAlmonds2 votes

This isn't a new thing, they did it last season too. It shouldn't have been a surprise.

Atlas The Bird1 votes

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To Riot, and all those who have heard about the potential loss of rewards to those who received bans, I have a suggestion. To preface this, I received a 2 week ban this season for calling someone trash. I get that this is not cool behavior. However, this is my ONLY ban I have ever received. I have been playing League since just after it came out of beta. You know, the days when Jax stacked 5 ninja tabi for the dodge stat ;). In that time, what is that, 6 years? I have received one (1) ban, this season. i'm never racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. My toxicity is something like "dude you're bad", and that's rare. We all have that game that just gets to us.

There are always frustrating games and trolls, feeders etc. But most people are able to cope with this in various ways that doesn't result in toxicity. Sometimes it's an exercise in self control. Now if you didn't feel like you deserved the ban, you could always try talking to customer service and usually they'll point out what in the chat logs warranted the action. A few cases where there might have been an overreaction.

This way, instead of blindsiding people and hitting people with that harsh penalty, you'll let them know beforehand that any sort of poor behavior will result in punishment. This is a good way to prevent toxicity without taking people by surprise.

Well to be fair, taking away ranked rewards was always on the table for toxic players (At least for a year now), its just with Lyte's recent blunder people were very confused as to what exactly is changing. They have been taking away ranked rewards for extremely toxic players for a while now. Whether you deserve to be lumped with that group of people is debatable probably, but just know this isn't all that new, and if Riot did a better job of communicating it, it probably wouldn't have blindsided that many people.

The given goal behind punishment in League is to cause reform, not to push people away. If people understand the implications of their poor behavior, they will be much more careful in their words and actions. That's my take, at least, and I believe it is highly in line with what Riot hopes to accomplish with their system of punishment and reward.

Some punishments are designed for reform, such as chat restrictions/ranked restrictions. Bans are beyond that, bans are there to push you away, and quarantine you before you cause more damage to the community. If you were banned, 9 times out of 10 it's usually because you were incredibly toxic either in a handful of games, or consistently toxic across a large number of games.

WunderLion1 votes

I guess what I was trying to reinforce is that up until this season, I've never ever had an issue in game with being reported. I messed up this season, obviously, but over a span of 7 years, running into trouble once and then losing the rewards is not only disheartening, but it seems pretty unfair. I try to play the game in a fair and welcoming manner. For a while, I was a few "honors" away from having a leader banner. I get wanting to remove toxicity from the game. There's no place for hatred and flaming. I get frustrated, and I fell below my respectable standards a few times. But it just seems like if they want to hit such a huge group of people with a punishment, taking away rewards for skilled play seems harsh, and leans towards a much more toxic side of the game than I tend to play in, if that makes sense.

Raw1 votes

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I suggest that instead of taking away rewards this season, let people have their rewards. **Then, at the beginning of next season, announce that anyone who receives any sort of ban or chat restriction will not be eligible for rewards. **This way, instead of blindsiding people and hitting people with that harsh penalty, you'll let them know beforehand that any sort of poor behavior will result in punishment.

-Wavebreaker

B-but they already let you know about this 11 months ago lol. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/1LJP1ovA-ranked-restrictions "Q: Will all chat and ranked restricted players be ineligible for rewards at the end of the season? A: No, of the chat and ranked restricted players the ones with the worst behavioral records will not earn rewards."

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WunderLion1 votes

Okay, so when they say "the worst behavioral records" and I say "one ban, 7 years" how does that follow? That's my concern. One strike in 7 years, no rewards. How is that the worst record?

Raw1 votes

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Okay, so when they say "the worst behavioral records" and I say "one ban, 7 years" how does that follow? That's my concern. One strike in 7 years, no rewards. How is that the worst record?

That's Doctor Lyte for you baby.

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