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Leaver System Unfair

DoinitSlow·12/11/2014, 1:01:55 PM·2 votes·897 views

Let it be known that I was under duress when I typed "I Agree" in accordance with the new Leaver Buster system and is therefore not admissible as evidence in a civil court. Furthermore, let it be known that if I am denied equal access or am kept from accessing my purchased digital goods and services without appropriate recompense, that I will initiate a class-action lawsuit aimed to recover damages from online gaming services who have denied access to purchased digital goods and services from their customers without recourse, and for the emotional and psychological damages caused by such actions. Furthermore, compensation for time spent to gain competitive knowledge would be sought, since a coerced switch to a different online gaming service would require another significant time investment.

If you have been negatively impacted by such systems without recourse, please comment with your specific situation below. Profiteering companies such as Riot, Blizzard, S2, BioWare, etc have created digital communities in which they have the sole authority to guide the aforementioned communities morally by holding your digital purchases hostage, while having no regard for civil law or even criminal law in some cases.

Best Regards, D. Slow

9 Comments

Deep Terror Nami12/11/2014, 1:27:24 PM2 votes

  1. The new system gives everybody a notification for the very first time they leave, no matter what the reason. It is not flagging you as a chronic leaver, and you are not going to get a penalty. Do not worry about the message.

  2. Read the Terms of Use and End User License Agreement that you clicked "I Agree" to. It tells you without a doubt that Riot owns all the digital content, it owns your account, it owns your RP and IP and the skins you bought. They retain the right to take it all away from you for any reason or no reason at all, and do not have to notify you of this.

  3. The above ToU and EULA legal agreement is the same with every video game you will ever play. They will not go to such extremes, but they have the legal right to and you signed up for it. Get over it.

Eleshakai12/11/2014, 4:57:32 PM2 votes

Can you please post this in a way that doesn't make you look like an idiot who looked up a contract and substituted words and phrases in where necessary?

I've gone on record in numerous cases saying how awful Riot's new leaver system is, but even I can't support you here because of the stupidity of your claims. Law suits, reimbursement for time spent learning a new game, etc... really?

DoinitSlow12/11/2014, 1:24:53 PM1 votes

My specific situation: My computer performed a forced Windows Update, despite me having the option for automatic install disabled. The game ended before I could reconnect and I was given no other option but to type "I Agree." I did not want to type "I Agree" because I did not want to enter into another contract with Riot, nor did I truly believe that there will never be another instance in which circumstances beyond my control would cause me to leave a match. Thus, I was forced to lie in order to continue playing.

TeemoJenkins12/11/2014, 3:07:43 PM1 votes

Lol... kids throwing around the term Class Action Lawsuit.

You just freely admitted that your computer is the reason you were disconnected. The "I Agree" just acknowledges that you shouldn't leave games, end of story. Provided you aren't a chronic leaver, you have nothing to worry about.

Jubbinaut12/11/2014, 3:45:24 PM1 votes

I've been trying to avoid more of these, but this one's too hilarious to not address.

{quoted} Let it be known that I was under duress when I typed "I Agree" in accordance with the new Leaver Buster system and is therefore not admissible as evidence in a civil court.

I find it hard to believe that unlawful pressure was exerted upon you to coerce you to perform an act that you ordinarily would not perform. (paraphrased from here .) Even if you feel you were, I don't believe you'll find it very easy to demonstrate that.

Furthermore, let it be known that if I am denied equal access or am kept from accessing my purchased digital goods and services without appropriate recompense, that I will initiate a class-action lawsuit aimed to recover damages from online gaming services who have denied access to purchased digital goods and services from their customers without recourse, and for the emotional and psychological damages caused by such actions.

While this is perfectly reasonable, it's notable that you don't actually "own" anything in relation to League except the account. It's also notable that Riot has the full and complete right to remove your access to their proprietary property (which includes, but is not limited to - their servers, their champions, their skins, and their game). And you have agreed to this with every patch.

I suppose you might claim duress there, but I think you'll have a harder time demonstrating that than you will the other.

Furthermore, compensation for time spent to gain competitive knowledge would be sought, since a coerced switch to a different online gaming service would require another significant time investment.

"Pay me for having to learn how to ... play your game." I mean, really? Unless you're playing at a professional level (and I'm not talking about streaming Twitch), you don't even have an argument to be made here.

If you have been negatively impacted by such systems without recourse, please comment with your specific situation below. Profiteering companies such as Riot, Blizzard, S2, BioWare, etc have created digital communities in which they have the sole authority to guide the aforementioned communities morally by holding your digital purchases hostage, while having no regard for civil law or even criminal law in some cases.

Here's the thing: They do have that sole right and authority. And you agree to give it to them every single time you log in after a patch.

Max Nobody12/11/2014, 1:30:44 PM1 votes

Let it be known that I was under duress when I typed "I Agree" in accordance with the new Leaver Buster system and is therefore not admissible as evidence in a civil court.

Let it be known that Riot doesn't sue their players for leaving games.

If you had to type "I agree", it's just to make sure you have read the message.

Furthermore, let it be known that if I am denied equal access or am kept from accessing my purchased digital goods and services without appropriate recompense, that I will initiate a class-action lawsuit aimed to recover damages from online gaming services who have denied access to purchased digital goods and services from their customers without recourse, and for the emotional and psychological damages caused by such actions

Can you read the ToU again?

Furthermore, compensation for time spent to gain competitive knowledge would be sought, since a coerced switch to a different online gaming service would require another significant time investment.

... Wait what.

If you have been negatively impacted by such systems without recourse, please comment with your specific situation below. Profiteering companies such as Riot, Blizzard, S2, BioWare, etc have created digital communities in which they have the sole authority to guide the aforementioned communities morally by holding your digital purchases hostage, while having no regard for civil law or even criminal law in some cases.

... In english, please?

God, my brain hurt.

OK, the popup you had just tells you "there is a system that punishes afk/leavers, so you'd better avoid it". THAT'S ALL. If you leave a second time there won't be any sanction, there will ony be one if you leave too often.

A Bad Ahri12/11/2014, 1:29:17 PM1 votes

Check out the forums. You're not the first, and you are far from the last.

There are quite a few people who have gone through this, and so I'm just not sure how well your message will effect it.

Still, you'll be fine as long as you aren't a constant leaver.