Once your account is Bronze or Silver

83sqojSQ6j·Jul 6, 2015·2 votes·2,596 views

You're fucked. Might as well start a new account and try to get in gold next time. Once you get dropped into the bucket your just another crab that's dangled a piece of string every few games. Hate when people say carry yourself.......... in a team game.

The wins you get aren't because you're good and you carried yourself. Its because you were lucky enough to at least have one other person on the team who was on the same page. You could have 0 deaths in a game and still lose. Playing ranked is like playing Russian roulette. Just waiting for the bullet to kill you.

23 Comments

Meta Not FoundJul 6, 20156 votes

I've gone from Bronze 2 to Platinum 5 so far this season. Elo hell does not exist.

RiotmoonstonesJul 6, 20158 votes

I'd have to agree with you - I went from Silver II to Plat V this season. :]

I was Silver for the few couple of seasons, and I was perfectly okay with that. Once I got a better handle on mechanics, I decided to push myself and see how far I could climb. Last season, that was Gold, and this season it's Plat.

I don't think ranked matters to everyone - some are much less competitive than others, and that's totally fine. As long as you're having fun, I don't think your rank should be part of the equation. Even in ranked, if you're Bronze or Silver, and you're still having fun, that's all that really matters.

KüramaJul 6, 20151 votes

Why does it have to stop at Platinum? Go for Diamond!

83sqojSQ6jJul 9, 20151 votes

one step at a time buddy.

RueianJul 6, 20153 votes

The 'fun' mentality kind of ruins the 'fun' of ranked for some players though. Also since ranked rewards are a thing. I really think other than forum badges and icons. The victorious skin should be similar to the team ward skin and just be awarded for volume of games. This would lessen a lot of stress on players in bronze/silver and i think it might lower some toxic situations caused by that stress.

83sqojSQ6jJul 9, 20152 votes

I don't play ranked to have fun. I play ranked to win. Watching idiots who want to have "fun" in ranked usually breaks down to watching people who don't give a fuck about what they're doing in the game and are only wasting your time. Fun is secondary to winning in a match that is supposed to be considered more competitive, If you want to have fun and tralalala in the fucking jungle while enemy is taking our inhibs go play normals. In ranked your suppose to try. At least thats what i thought. We must not be playing the same game i guess.

TheXtractorJul 9, 20154 votes

You're so wrong. so so so wrong. If you cannot have fun in a ranked game you will lose. Fun should be primary because when you are having fun, you will not be toxic, you will be a better teammate, you will be a better player, you will not tilt or rage or anything negative.

if fun isnt #1 on your list when you are playing ranked, then you shouldnt play ranked and its natural that you wil lose games and be frustrated (and then rage about your teammates while in fact you are losing because you play with a wrong mentality).

83sqojSQ6jJul 9, 20152 votes

First of all describe fun in a competitive environment so i can understand what you mean, because losing easily winnable games because one or more of the idiots you get paired with don't want to contribute to the competition because they're having so much "fun" avoiding ways to win isn't clicking with me.

DrCyanideJul 9, 20153 votes

Fun in a competitive environment is the in the thrill of the moment, regardless of the outcome. For whatever reason people who are win focused seem to think fun focused players don't want to win or aren't trying as hard as they are, and that's just not true.

Put another way, fun focused players enjoy the game as it's happening, regardless of if the team wins or losses. That narrow escape? That was fun! It was a thrill to make it out! That split push that killed 3 towers and an inhibitor? That was fun too! That Baron steal? FUN! Did all that and still lost? Oh well, it was a fun game.

I really don't understand the "I only play ranked to win" mentality, because I feel like that experience could be have a shortcut if you simply clicked Play and a banner saying "Victory" or "Defeat" popped up. Obviously players want to prove themselves, but you can prove yourself regardless of the end result.

83sqojSQ6jJul 9, 20151 votes

Until i realize wow all of those narrow escapes, baron steal, yadda yadda was all a huge fucking waste of time because at the end of the day your team is still 7/31, didnt prove shit except the fact that you got owned, and it really wasn't as "fun" as your making it out to be because your team is full of self-deprecating rejects that don't know when they're beat.

Time wasted isn't something i can get back because i had "fun", and in actuality the whole reason your competing is to win otherwise why are you trying for? Why not just go into your ranked games die 5 times to mid and try to comeback because its fun? There's a mode for "fun", it's called normal's.

I can understand a bad game, but why must I have to bare the fact that you wont admit defeat and try to motivate myself through this shit when your just some fucking faceless bot that im fucking stuck with because if i leave I get punished, even though at this point, I'm no longer having fun watching you not understand why it is you've died the same way for the last 5 mins?

Fun isn't a a goal you can reach for, its a derivative of striving for something else, in this case a win. Thats how i see it at least. Guess ill be silver forever

EleshakaiJul 9, 20153 votes

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Until i realize wow all of those narrow escapes, baron steal, yadda yadda was all a huge fucking waste of time because at the end of the day your team is still 7/31, didnt prove shit except the fact that you got owned, and it really wasn't as "fun" as your making it out to be because your team is full of self-deprecating rejects that don't know when they're beat.

Time wasted isn't something i can get back because i had "fun", and in actuality the whole reason your competing is to win otherwise why are you trying for? Why not just go into your ranked games die 5 times to mid and try to comeback because its fun? There's a mode for "fun", it's called normal's.

I can understand a bad game, but why must I have to bare the fact that you wont admit defeat and try to motivate myself through this shit when your just some fucking faceless bot that im fucking stuck with because if i leave I get punished, even though at this point, I'm no longer having fun watching you not understand why it is you've died the same way for the last 5 mins?

Fun isn't a a goal you can reach for, its a derivative of striving for something else, in this case a win. Thats how i see it at least. Guess ill be silver forever

The goal should be personal. Focus on improvement. Focus on becoming better. Those are things YOU can work towards every game that will provide a sense of accomplishment in a recognizable way. They are also things that NOBODY ELSE CAN TAKE AWAY FROM YOU(which is important to avoid getting angry at others). You can become better in any game - no matter the result, you can practice skills, learn new tactics, even something as simple as working on safe warding or farming. Winning should never be your goal(except during tournaments but that's a difference story) in any aspecto f your life. Your goal should always be to improve at whatever you do. As you become better, success and victory will come to you over time. But that's the result of having a good mindset and approachnig the game in the right way.

And you improve more in games that you lose than in games you win. The harder the game was, the more there is to learn from it, the more you can improve, the better you can become, and thus the whole 'why must I have to bare it' thing never comes into play. Those games become opportunities to improve, not bitter defeats. It's all about your mindset.

Here's something I posted a while ago... http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/tg1cxnOB-advice-for-enjoying-and-succeeding-in-ranked-play It's a set of rules I started following that helped me improve a lot. Maybe it can help you too. I climbed from Silver 3 to Plat 3 in a single season, so silver != screwed.

DrCyanideJul 9, 20153 votes

Again, you have this mentality that people who want to play this game for fun are out to lose, which isn't the case. It's like saying anyone who eats a hamburger wants to get fat.

Fun isn't a a goal you can reach for, its a derivative of striving for something else, in this case a win. Thats how i see it at least.

Does a game turning into a loss negate the fun you had while trying to win? The "fun" crowd says no, it doesn't. The "win" crowd comes off as saying yes, it completely negates the fun.

I wonder if it's also tied to your impression of how long the game is salvageable. Some people their ADC gives up first blood and it's "gg /ff @20". Others look at the game and say "if I can stall this out, they'll lose momentum and we can make a comeback". Even if they didn't manage to turn the game around, if they closed the gap it's a success to them and made the game more fun.

Fun vs Win Time Wasted vs Time Used Surrender Frequently vs Never Surrender

I suspect there's a strong correlation between these things in certain players.

TheXtractorJul 9, 20151 votes

Im talking about if you are in champion select, and random person X is picking something weird, if you go into a game with a bad attitude like 'omg this dude picks XYZ bla bla' and every mistake he might make you complain about and such. You are having a wrong mentality about the game.

Instead if you just play the game like any other game, pick a champion you enjoy instead of the op-meta picks and actually just play normally and relax the game will flow much more naturally and getting wins will be way easier. (does not equal free wins ofcourse).

GundayMondayJul 9, 20152 votes

I really like Texas Sniper's definition of ELO Hell. I think it does exist if you use his mindset (which also has a solution for escaping). http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Texas_Snyper/Elo_Hell_and_You:_Part_1_-_The_Impassable_Barrier

devante gomezJul 6, 20152 votes

i disagree. im bronze 4 and ill be bronze five by season end.

and it hurts.

but its necessary "u only need the light when its burning low. only miss the sun when it starts to snow"

"only wanna climb, when your low elo" what im saying is that every elo rank teaches its players something. the low ones teach u to persevere, they teach u that your bad, and that u have much to learn, they force u to learn the game or die trying, its harsh but in the words of tupac," that's just the way it is"

take the advice your division is giving u and review your bases and keep trying, and u will get out. i promise. AND I DON'T BREAK PROMISES Kalista

Huang ShaotianJul 6, 20152 votes

Take any gold player, and put them in bronze on anyone's account and they will get out within 100-200 games 100%.

InsiderJul 6, 20152 votes

must be a pretty bad gold player if it takes them over 50 games to get out of bronze

as a plat player when i smurfed and raised an alt that was in bronze it was literally a stomp fest. By no means am i trying to brag but due to the gap you can pretty much easily destroy and carry even 4 vs 5's most of the time. The only game i lost was when i was unable to connect for the first 10 minutes and even then we were pretty close to winning

Huang ShaotianJul 6, 20152 votes

It's within a margin of error. It's possible to have someone in a game with a few hundred million players be so unlucky that it takes them one or two hundred games. Beyond that, it starts becoming pretty improbable.

I believe a rito posted a while ago that it takes around 80-100 games for the average person to reach their true elo. But it's a difficult thing to measure because so many things effect it, how many games you played back to back, how much you improved over those games, if you took a break in between, real life stressers etc.

83sqojSQ6jJul 9, 20151 votes

Bet you cant win the 1v9's i play in elo hell.

InsiderJul 14, 20151 votes

if 4 members of your team are feeders im pretty sure the other 5 in the enemy team are as well...so yeah it does make it pretty easy if you are the outlier

DeclinedJul 6, 20152 votes

Although I joined at the start of the 2nd season, I didn't play ranked untill the 3rd season, where I began in bronze 2 and ended in plat 2.

Last season I started in gold, had some duoq matches with a rioter who said I was too good :/ So I stopped playing, and decided to focus my effort on this side project that explains the basic principles and concepts required to not screw up royally doing matches, right until the final week of the season and made plat in just a few days along with all the trolls, feeders, leavers, boosters and regular douches at the end of season rush, so get over it, the only one holding you back is yourself.

TheXtractorJul 9, 20152 votes

When I started playing the game back in season one, I ended my first ranked season at 1200 elo (barely enough for bronze badge at the time). Next season i went up to silver, reaching barely 1500 with gold. next season i went up to 1800 like 10 elo off having plat at the end of the season. next season went to plat up to plat 1 almost reaching diamond.

Currently at plat 3 since i barely play ranked anymore, but basically i went from a bronze player when i started to an diamond 5 player.