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Are gemstones too rare? Chest opening.

PaperbagJr··20 votes·131,056 views

Hey guys, since the hextech chests have released I have opened ~40 chests, and I was wondering if anyone else though that the gemstone drop rate was a bit low? I opened these 40 chests trying to get some gemstones for the new Annie skin and I have only gotten 1 gemstone out of the 40. I was thinking that this rate was a pretty low. I know that my sample size isnt the biggest to jump to conclusions, but if the drop rate is really 1/40 (or even lower) then that would take a ridiculous amount of time for someone to obtain this new skin. Lets do some math.

Without spending any money on chests, you can get 1 chest per week, or 4 per month. it would take 10 months to get the same amount of chests that I have opened, assuming that you play every week to get your chest. so it would take 10 months per gemstone, and it takes 10 gemstones to craft this skin. So, going off of my math and luck, it would take 100 months, or a little over 8 years, to get the amount of chests needed for the hextech annie skin, without spending any money.

now lets say that you wanted to dump your wallet into these chests until you got this skin. for $20 you can get about 30 chests/keys. if it takes 400 chests to get the skin, then you would need to pay $266 to purchase the chests needed for the skin. now you would have alot of other skins to add to your collection along the way, but this seems a little ridiculous for a single skin. That would make this the second most expensive skin, right under Pax TF.

Does anyone else think that riot should make these gemstones more common?

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

90 Comments

Taric the Gay69 votes

Gems are truly outrageous.

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TouchpadExpert4 votes

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Gems are truly outrageous.

I love how this is the very first comment to the thread.

Keepe10 votes

See, here's the thing. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... How would making Gems more common give Riot more money?

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Well, if they made them more common, it might tempt more people to spend money on chests. So the argument goes.

I have no doubt that they have talked at length, internally, about that drop rate. And I'm sure there is a lot of marketing research for "free-to-play" game economies regarding how to most optimally monetize these things.

I think Riot has a lot of respect for its players. I think they want to give us content that we are happy to purchase. BUT, they also know the realities of the free-to-play market, and they can't keep making this game if they give away too much for free. Players always want more free stuff, but we have to be willing to pay for things if we want Riot to keep making money. That's a big issue here.

theArtifacts8 votes

One guy commented that he spent approximately $220 opening hextech boxes before he was able to unlock Hextech Annie. If it's that rare accomplishment you're after.. so be it. I don't see anything wrong with something being extremely rare and valuable.

PetPetftw8 votes

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One guy commented that he spent approximately $220 opening hextech boxes before he was able to unlock Hextech Annie. If it's that rare accomplishment you're after.. so be it. I don't see anything wrong with something being extremely rare and valuable.

True to this. I dont think that riot has enough skins that are truely rare, that you can still obtain. Most of the Legacy skins come out of the vault every once in a while so they arent too rare. I think that hextech annie is a good addition. The skin is truely rare and still obtainable.

Annie

Materisna2 votes

Yes now in a few years you will litterally have 20 of these "gemstone skins" So i think they should make them more common if they are gonna make new skins for them

P.S. I know this is a old post

Mr Crazy guy2 votes

i got a gemstone from a free hex tech box lol

ßLACKPłNK Rosé1 votes

I'm at way over 300$ and I've only gotten 7 gemstones, I'm honestly a bit sick of this and I just really want my Vayne skin lol...

Achoo6661 votes

What i've spent 50$ and i have 7gemstones i had 2 already but ima open 50$ today if i dont get 3gemstones ima kms. Soulstealer vayne incoming

Andraxx1 votes

I have Soulsteeler vayne, but now that Dreadnova Darius is out I have to re-grind for it. Never thought my boy Darius was going to get a hextech exclusive skin....

Packun Flower3 votes

Looking to get Hextech Annie?

with how rare the gems are you're going to have to sink around $300-$500 for it.

Hextech Annie is the most expensive skin on LoL history.

So good luck.

Black Syndrome2 votes

It Isnt Go Check Pax Twisted Fate And Get Your Facts Straight :D

Packun Flower1 votes

Nice necro.

xXChaosKingXx1 votes

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Nice necro.

Gj replying man.

Packun Flower1 votes

Nice necro. Again.

TheSaltWhisperer1 votes

You're welcome.

Håppy3 votes

RedMercy spent $500 on chests, took him 2 weeks to actually spend all the RP. It cost him $500 to unlock Hextech Annie. He had ~5-8 chests left by the time he got the fifth gemstone. That's over 300 chests he opened.

Pandemic Punch2 votes

Taric : You must be worthy to have them.

Azure Hamster2 votes

Welcome to random loot drops.

Caitlyn

Viocie2 votes

:^)when the new vayne skin (soulstealer) out it it gonna be about the same price as hextech annie, i can hear my wallet crying

H3ll Van9uard4 votes

I legit feel you! that skin is so sick.... and they make it impossible to fucking get. Bastards

Daemonette2 votes

They are to rare. You can buy all the ultimate skins cheaper then a single gem skin. They should just make them legendary skins and get us to buy them that way. Total scam.

king max762 votes

well i have a question guys i got one gemstone after opening 35 or 45 chests idk,anyway i changed it to a free chest and key but there was some other options that i didnt notice what are those other options its really on my nerv

PaperbagJr1 votes

You can craft Hextech annie for 10 gemstones, you can also craft Soulstealer Vayne for 10 gemstones or a Hextech Ward for 5 gemstones

Uschiy1 votes

I opened the one they gifted to me i got one

Tìananmen Square1 votes

everybody got one gemstone with the free one from riotAnnie

DefiniteIyNotAdc6 votes

no i didnt got one gemstone from that free chest.

aiyablue3 votes

me either [slayer-jinx-unamused]

ShadowPhoenix912 votes

I also didn't get one... I bought (!) a lot of chests + got some and I only got one gemstone... Now after 40-50 chests... :/

Niceger1 votes

I do believe they need to be more common. I have earned about 8 chests from masteries and have bought $100 worth of boxes. Got a few good skins but I have only 1 gemstone. I have bought some before as well. I believe I have opened around 80 chests, but have 1 gemstone... I'm definitely not a happy camper with Riot at the moment.

Äss Destroyer11 votes

I think that's more of a gambling problem you have there than a Riot problem.

IchMagM0NETEN1 votes

Ok, I'm deciding to rant about it for a few seconds. Not that I'm complaining but I opened next to a hundred chests and I didn'T get a SINGLE gemstone out of it (I'm definately complaining). It drove me to the point where I even wrote the support asking, if gemstones are still a thing. I mean, am I just the most unlucky person on this whole planet or is Riot just doing it's sick jokes with the community again?

Gainezy1 votes

its all just a sicc, dank, and super SPICY meme at this point. one stone away from ss vayne. bought 63 boxes ON TOP OF ALREADY HAVING the 9 stones and couldnt cast the dice i guess.

SoldSparta1 votes

In my opinion i fell as if riot should make an option to where the drop rate foes up if you purchase something of some sort like an IP boost...if you catch my drift summoners

ŚhidĆume1 votes

I think you mean if you catch my rift summoners [slayer-jinx-wink]

ABlueQuaker1 votes

I say no only because they've already been around this long. Maybe Riot could make some other sort of crafting material for the next skin that has a higher drop rate? I'd hate to screw over the people who have forked out hundreds of $$ for Hextech Annie or SS Vayne.

Luminouspyro1 votes

I've only ever spent around $30 on chests, and I've had friends gift me rp for the chests as well. Not counting the chests I get for free, I've opened about 50 chests and gotten 9 gemstones. I guess my odds are pretty high because my bf spent $40 on rp for chests and didn't get a single gemstone. Maybe the drop rate for everyone is different, thathat's what it looks like to me anyway

GenoGold1 votes

i got 1, used it fora crate and key, and got another

SpawnButt1 votes

So my buddy pulled two gemstones in one chest? Is that like the ultimate rarity just playing in his favor or was that just a bug? I want to know because him and I are both flipping out.

Its Stewie1 votes

I've spent over $400 on boxes and event items and I have 9 of them. I've spent like almost 4 grand on this game and they still give me the middle finger lol.

Askarollah1 votes

I think it's better that they're rare, that way I feel better about acomplishing the challenge of getting the skin. I only have two gems after like half a year I think, but thats only cause I haven't been on my grind. but I been playing a lot lately and I still haven't gotten any lately... Maybe they're a bit too rare, but it feels good after a lot of hard work accomplishing something.

MasterYi

0 Noxus 0 1 votes

FUK YES

ducobu1231 votes

I'm ready to pay money for Dreadnova Darius but no, they prefer to make us hunt gems like kids hunt eggs in April. Let us get gems more easily or let us pay for it i don't know but i wantttt this skinn of darriusss

Piper Pérri1 votes

I think gemstones should be as rare as you've mentioned because it increases the value of skins. Otherway they are going to be worthless like "Championship Riven 2016".[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Vallanos1 votes

I agree. Gemstone drop rates are currently a joke. I have spent wayyyyy too much money on opening those chests and the basically complete BS MSI capsule increased drop rate scam. Over $100 gets you 2 gemstones? That sounds fair. So at that rate, it would cost you over $500 for 10 gemstones, which is the cost of a single skin. So $500 for a skin? That doesnt even seem like a good way to make money from Riot's perspective. That just sounds like a good way to lose customers.

Auras7171 votes

I got one in first 10 chests :DZiggs

SkiKingCO1 votes

I think that league should become a game that you pay an upfront cost after lvl 10. Kind of like wow but without the monthly subscribtion. So if people just want to try it and decide they dont like it, no big deal it is free up to level 10. And then have skins be like overwatch. Where it is somewhat random but to be easier to get the chests since there are more skins. But to also have the option of buying the skins for the normal cost.

Striga1 votes

Do you realize how many more smurfs there's going to be from all the free to play people, and there's literally no way for them to properly implement that with all the people who have accounts, especially the ones who have purchased content, but don't want to pay a random new flat fee.

Vallanos1 votes

Gemstones are rendered worthless by how rare they are. Instead of having people waste a bunch of money on stupid chests that they dont want anyway... and still not get what they paid for to just be mad afterwards that they wasted the money. You should just put a price on the skin and thats it. Get what you pay for...? "You know, how every other store in the world works..." Dont even bother with Riot's customer service. They are literally THE most worthless group of individuals I have ever had the unfortunate experience of talking to. They basically just restate what you told them and say they are sorry they cant help. Good job.

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