2 things I've realized about the new Veigar.

JayHog1992·4/20/2016, 8:45:13 PM·2 votes·866 views

First: He'd be OP in ARAM.

Because with 5 people clumped together, he'd gain lots of AP by landing his spells, up to 25 AP per combo if the entire enemy team dies to kills/assists. Not to mention that with farming minions with ANY SPELL, he could gain much more mid to late game.

Veigar would be the terror of ARAM if that is the case. But of course, he has to LAND the spells to be THAT strong lategame.

Second: He could MAYBE be a viable support in the Rift.

Think about it! Veigar doesn't need to farm minions, just poke the enemy bot lane. And without the mandatory "Max Q to win", he can just max E first to have stronger stuns for his ADC. And because he has two laners instead of one mid, he can have double the AP for poking... At the cost of not being able to farm minions (Save for turret farming when the ADC is gone or for wave clears mid/lategame.)

Honestly, once the Veigar changes go live, I'll try him support to see if it goes decently well or horribly wrong, but I can imagine Veigar support to be a serious thing with these new buffs.

Those were my thoughts on the new Veigar. What about your opinions on this?

8 Comments

Hinata Rabbit4/21/2016, 12:09:44 AM1 votes

he only gains AP from minions and neutral monsters with his Q same as live (except cannons/largemonsters/epic monsters now give 2)

Also if he lands a full rotation on 5 people and they all die he gains

Q - 2 W - 5 E -5 R - 1 K/A - 15

for a total of 28. if he gets two kills with his Q in that rotation then he will have gained 30AP from that fight. Personally I see veigar going Tear/Morello and spamming all his abilities in teamfights. if the enemy team doesnt die immediatly in a full rotation or the fight is prolonged you can get a load of ap from that teamfight

Trídent4/21/2016, 3:11:28 AM1 votes

I like the Q/ Passive change, but hate the ult change, "Primal Energy' makes it sound a lot less impressive and "Tank-killer" really isn't an appropriate identity for Veigar...

Extasios4/21/2016, 5:06:09 PM1 votes

We don't nerf champions for ARAM... Or else we wouldn't have Karthus, Teemo etc...

Embertine4/21/2016, 6:29:50 PM1 votes

He's already OP in arams. His stun massacres teams.

And he's already a viable support on the rift. I've taken him support before and won each time.