@riot Why cant annie's ult be like fizz's?

Tayl·3/8/2016, 3:40:35 AM·4 votes·1,623 views

Lets face it, annie's ult lacks counterplay and needs no skill to use. Adding a skill shot and small delay to it would help in both of these areas. Something like, Annie throws her teddy, sticking to the first champ hit. After a small delay tibbers appears doing aoe dmg and stunning those in the area(if she had her stun charged to do so). This would add some form of skill to a champ that needs little to no mechanical skill to use. Thoughts?

27 Comments

TheSlogs3/8/2016, 3:42:24 AM5 votes

1: it is a skillshot, just w/o delay 2: you would actually make Annie a useless champion if you were to just flat out gut her like that w/o compensation 3: +0 points for originality

MisterHealYoGirl3/8/2016, 3:45:00 AM4 votes

It's the circle of life. Annie counters mobility, mobility counters range, and range counters Annie.

Dinkis3/8/2016, 3:46:11 AM2 votes

She's not even OP. The instant AoE ult is the only thing that makes her viable, and she still doesnt even see pro play. She's just a low elo stomp.

Tayl3/8/2016, 4:10:23 AM1 votes

Thats the entire point. She doesn't deserve and instant ult. The ult would still be powerful without it being instant. A skillshot and .75 delay wouldn't break her it would add counter play that is much needed.

StoppedDig796053/8/2016, 5:01:13 AM1 votes

Annie is by definition an easy champ for new players to pick up and do tons of dmg without much skill required its her entire idea, she is a 450 champ anyone after playing 2-3 games could pick her up. 3 of her abilities do the same thing dmg. She does need much of anything because in high elo and middle tier elo they can exploit her weaknesses as well as playing to her strengths she has counter play in the fact that if u wait/bait the stun then she cant do much. flash is almost 100% NEEDED to land a good tibbers which when her flash is down she is extremely slow without a reliable gap closer. She is also one of the more squishy champs in the game even if she builds ROD so if u can get on top of her and kill her she is useless. And like other have posted in the comments below itemize against her its a vital part to the game regardless of the champ you itemize against. If the item is strong against X champion why wouldn't you buy it, even if QSS "wouldn't" save you as you've stated numerous times it still allows you to flash away or dash away and if timed correct can save you or if your strong enough kill Annie thus saving your team. If you are having a hard time against Annie I recommend start playing her so you can get a feel for her strengths and weaknesses so you can better your understanding of what to do against her and what not to do against her. I've done this with many champions I have a hard time playing against and it has improved my play by a large margin. I do believe riot has stated that they are happy with the state Annie in and don't play on changing her anytime soon so I thing you should just learn her weaknesses and exploit them.

Items that are good against annie 1 item 3140 2item 3156 3item 3111 4item 3102 5item 3065

Champions good against Annie 1.Brand 2.Sion 3.Orianna 4.Lux 5.Galio

Champions Bad against Annie 1.Akali 2.Yasuo 3.Fizz 4.Leblanc 5.Zed

I hope ive informed you or someone of what to do with annie and how she is currently stable in her current state ^_^

BladeSteel3/8/2016, 7:28:32 AM1 votes

Someone got beat by an annie and wants to qq.

Nanaba3/8/2016, 3:45:05 AM1 votes

As long as Tibbers still apears despite a miss— not terrible. The question would be why? Why not just make her Q a skill-shot like Veiger?

Tayl3/8/2016, 3:55:24 AM1 votes

It could even be something like mao's sappling toss. Only chasing after champions, and going off after contact. If no champion is in range, half mana and cd is refunded. The spell just needs tweaking.