I don't care if it is intentional or what. You shouldn't just go 0/8 in lane for any reason. I am not talking about sup. Clearly, all riot cares about is toxicity, which is coming from the feeders. If no one feeds like a r%%%%% why would someone be toxic.
Dr Poro2 votesFeeding is situational. It only happens when the enemy is playing better than you. You don't always have a choice not to feed. They kill you, you don't suicide into them. If their jungler keeps camping you to towerdive you over and over, you have no choice. If your team is not making up for it, you'll lose the game. Simple as that: the enemy outplayed you.
Toxic, however is dispositional. You can always choose not to flame. It depends on the player's personality whether or not they do it. Of course it only happens in some situations, but it is inherently connected with the person's attitude.
If someone's bad at the game, they shouldn't ban them. They can just make them feed less by lowering their elo enough until they're at a ranking where they wouldn't. If you were up against a team of challengers, you'd either be feeding or be getting so hard you have less than half gold of everyone else. You can say "yeah but I'd just play safe and it wouldn't be as bad as feeding", that's true, but only if you KNEW in advance they were challenger. But you don't play like that every game. By playing extremely safe you're never going to achieve anything. If you just give up all farm early game, you'll be relying on your team to win for you every game. If you don't, you'll be feeding sometimes.
For example... I was playing Wukong the other day and laned against a hecarim. He cleared a jungle camp and tp'ed in lane after going B to come in lane on lvl 2 when I was still 1. He immediately went aggro on me thinking that he could get me out of lane with his lvl advantage. I just retreated while AAing him and he didn't notice that I had a lot more minions in the lane (cause I killed his first wave already) which caused him to lose over half his life. I soon got lvl 2 and immediately killed him. After that I jumped on him every time he left his turret range. Now you could say it was bad of him to let me jump on him, but honostly, he was just trying to farm and probably underestimated the range of my dash. After 3 kills, our Amumu jungler decided it would be funny to camp top so we towerdived him and staying his jungle to kill him before he even got into lane. He left laning phase 0/8/0. After that, he nearly made up for that in the teamfights where he disrupted a lot and got quite some assists. Now, he did perform very poorly in the laning phase. But is that because he's inherently bad or is it because he underestimated the match up and made a mistake? Granted that this was a normal game and he probably didn't play a lot of hecarim as he has only one ranked game with this guy (and he won it), he is a Diamond 4 so, no, he probably does not suck balls at this game. I watched his profile and he had a bad score in 2 of the last 30 ranked games he played. He often ends positive even when losing, but he went like 1/7 twice. During those games... Is he suddenly the worst player in history? That's probably what his tema would think if they had a toxic attitude.
GrungyDesires2 votesWell depends. If someone is toxic it usually makes someone feed so the toxic person is worse but feeders in general are worse since they usually go 1 v 5 a lot or refuse to communicate with the team, ward, signal mia, or anything useful.
Technically lack of communication or map awareness is worse than feeding itself. Shit it's lost me many games in a row on hexakill at least. Never had so many loses in a row so now I won't play hexa anymore because there isn't an MMR in it because I'm getting paired with people who afk, don't group, dont listen, feed hard, etc.
Toxic can be categorized in many ways though.... The ones that blame another for doing bad and call them shit all game for no reason even if they aren't doing bad then those people should be banned hard or muted.
I won't hide the fact that I'm a dick in game when people aren't communicating or if someone is toxic toward me.
SEKAI1 votesI hate whenever there is someone who acts like a retard in game, going berserk all over the keyboard over trivial matters.
I don't hate feeders as much, as long as they don't have the property mentioned just above then I am cool with most of the time, besides the case where they would feed just too much. But even then, I just get frustrated instead of straight up hating.
zane yalgir1 votesI hate when someone acts like a retard in game, going berserk all over the keyboard over trivial matters.
I don't hate feeders as much, as long as they don't have the property mentioned above then I am cool with most of the time, besides the case where they would feed just too much. But even then, I just get frustrated instead of straight hating.
dude no offense but like op said there is zero reason to be 0/8 in lane and im seeing it way to much.
if they gave feeders half the shit they gave us "toxic" flamers we wouldnt be having so many issues http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1842695175/211846831?tab=overview i can expect this most games.
the only other thing i can expect is people like this sivir and panteon..
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1843650751/211846831?tab=overview
im 14k of the 58k damage.. sure sivir didnt feed but her and panteon where horrible.
know what they said? wed have won if you stayed with the team.
i was 4/2 tell the end of laning i had one death to nughlus who ganked me when i was low. and one to cass when i ulted lb....
i was shen vs riven.....
we lost becuase nughlus atcualy went to get dragon and becuase jinx was way better then sivir
i should not have out damaged the adc with pretty much jsut a fire cape for damage. shens q and passive did help but not enough to be like this
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=6tqyMB18,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-06-02T08:32:10.796+0000)
dude no offense but like op said there is zero reason to be 0/8 in lane and im seeing it way to much.
Yer I would get frustrated with 0/8, but I won't really hate (as long as they are actually cooperative and keeps most things to themselves) if you get what I mean.
zane yalgir1 votesYer I would get frustrated with 0/8, but I won't really hate (as long as they are actually cooperative and keeps most things to themselves) if you get what I mean.
most of the time they are 0/8 because they didn't cooperate in the first place.
wither its the supp or warding there where things they could have done. they didnt do them and the result was being 0/8
its like saying your okay with a 0/20 luci adc whos feeding a no cs fizz supp
Laisenberg1 votesthats what i meant. Even if you are camped, u can ward and hug tower. hell u can let your lane running all over that map as long as you ping. there is no legit reason to go feasting and be like "we got this." "jgler please come help"
zane yalgir2 votesthats what i meant. Even if you are camped, u can ward and hug tower. hell u can let your lane running all over that map as long as you ping. there is no legit reason to go feasting and be like "we got this." "jgler please come help"
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/cHVAkWGn-so-i-found-a-screen-shot?comment=0000
screen shot i found had a jayce giving me a hard time
the reason im sharing this is as you can see i started playing smarter and over took them there are things you can do but most of the time it wont matter
Laisenberg1 votesFor example, this brand has been running into their team whole game. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1843809151/213882285?tab=overview
Laisenberg1 votesdamn