I like the Ashe changes, but the Q...

Byrnes·4/28/2015, 10:12:42 PM·3 votes·3,222 views

EDIT: I've better explained myself in a response to RiotRepertoir. I apologize if my initial thoughts in the following post were jumbled, please look below to my response for more logically laid out statements. <3


First and foremost, I like Ashe. A lot. Well not a lot, anymore, after all the thematic/back story changes she became less and less appealing to me, but damn I still love a good Ashe game. Since I've started playing in S2, I have played what has got to be over 6000 games with just Ashe (over 2 accounts, not in ranked SORRY). She is still what I consider my best champion and play her when I know I won't get kicked/dodged on for picking her.

I like the changes, a lot! But i have a few concerns. First and foremost, her passive. The auto attacks always slow? And what's more, it applies extra damage based on how much she's raised her crit chance? Doesn't this just sound like Draven all over again? I get mechanically it is different, but it is going to cause the same issues as Draven's old passive until it is nerfed into the ground or changed...wont it?

Secondly, her Q. It's cool. It is shiny. It shoots lots of things. But I do feel like the skill needs some polishing. What is it for in regards to her kit? What about this whole stacking thing? The stacking mini game for extra effect seems kind of frivolous, and I can already see it getting nerfed into uselessness until we repeat with another rework on her Q.

I like the changes on E, however I liked the ability to sit back and farm until I ended up a few items ahead for being able to play safe and avoid aggression. I guess what we're saying here is that we're taking away from her own power and giving it to her team (which should come back around to her anyway).

The R is unchanged. Still cool. I still like to pretend I'm Jinx. Pew.

Lastly, and slightly unrelated, can we please -still- change back Ashe's voice to the recording prior to the most recent? I get the changes you were trying to make to her thematically, but I can't keep doing this annoying, immature, teenage girl thing. She is a Queen, not a brat. If not, someone explain to me how to replace the file on my own ]:

Ashe Byrnes

PS: this is just my two cents/initial feedback. I don't usually do this kind of post, or any kind of post, but I felt like I needed to say something about my favorite champion, even if it was short and unimportant. <3

13 Comments

RiotRiotRepertoir4/29/2015, 12:05:46 AM9 votes

Hi Byrnes,

It sounds like you care about Ashe quite a bit. If you have specific questions, I'd love to answer them, but it was hard to decipher from your post what your exact concerns were, and what was more theoretical. If you could list out the specific concerns, I'd love to answer them. Thanks!

FatedTitan4/29/2015, 12:25:38 AM4 votes

I like the overall direction of the rework, but my concern is that E. A global vision ability like that, especially early, is extremely powerful. I think it'd be better suited if you let the range scale up with rank, with the last ranking making it a global. That way it's not too powerful early, but allows great utility into the late game. I'm not saying to make it trash early, like Noc's ult range at 6, but keep it at it's current spot and let it move out every rank until it's global.

Byakuya Kuchiki4/29/2015, 12:10:38 AM2 votes

what changes?

TEHLAWLFlRM4/29/2015, 5:19:40 AM1 votes

Ashe went so long with a stupid passive that basically rewarded her for not attacking... I think it's due time her passive actually rewards her for staying in Combat which ADCs should do in fights. Ashe is not op and never will be, her Ult is her only get out of jail free card along with her kite which really doesn't matter against an Akali who can just rengage.

I think people need to play her and test it out before they start complaining about her rework, she wasn't the best pick for ADC among others and hopefully with this change we will see more ashe and less tristana and other top pick ADCs/

LaMaLiCkEr24/29/2015, 8:28:34 AM1 votes

finish the word you ueer