What do you call a fed Zed?
Zed
Zed
What do you call a mage with Zhonyas?
Alive.
What do you call a mage with Zhonyas?
Alive.
For a few more seconds.
Team fights and towers say otherwise.
Team fights and towers say otherwise.
I would say 90% of the time when I see someone use Zhonia's they end up dying immediately afterward. That is of course a result of using it at the wrong time, but I don't believe people really know when it is most effective to use it or when it is better to just die and save it for later. Then when it comes to late game, it is almost never best to take the death as your death timer will be long enough that it will be up, if not close to back up by the time you need it again. Then people use it as a panic button.
I am also considering that if you are wise enough to use Zhonia's at the appropriate time, you are probably playing against a Zed who knows that you have Zhonia's active available, so will probably not waste their ult on you until they know you have used it.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. However in a team fight, which is basically 20 mins and more in, a zhonyas is a get out of jail free card against a Zed ult. Not a definite save, but definitely very powerful.
Don't expect any upvotes; the boards has a permanent hatred boner for Zed, Lee sin, Vayne, and Riven
But I agree. If you zhonyas as soon as Zed ults then he has little burst, forcing him to stay nearby if he wants to even scratch you. After negating most of his burst it's a lot easier to fight back.
And about that "U used Zhonyas now ur surrounded by the enemy team"
Uh, if you are surrounded by the enemy team after zhonya-ing a zed ult you were completely out of position because that would mean your team isn't nearby at all. And if the enemy team just killed 4 of your team members, you're the last one left, and suddenly Zed ults you, you have bigger problems because your just lost 4 people and zed didn't use his ult which means other enemies are a bigger problem.
But hey, who gives a shit about considering counter arguments, let's just downvote this too
But hey, who gives a shit about considering counter arguments, let's just downvote this too
To be fair, the guy did get a response that was more than a single sentence, so there's no need to pretend we're all brain-dead and don't care. In fact, if we take out your opening and ending sentence about downvote whining, the person's response is just about the same length as your post!
So really, both sides gave an equal amount of shits. Take your downvotes and act like a man/woman/appropriate label about it instead of whining when you got your damn counterargument.
Lol, I really don't get why the original post has so many downvotes... I laughed.
It's because most people don't extensively play zed. They just get face rolled by one and decide it's easier to join the cry train instead of learning how to win. Welcome to League where most people are Bronze.
Vel'Koz main and proud Zed insta-banner here. I actually tried to learn Zed for some time during Season 5. Ultimately I gave up because I couldn't get along with the fast-paced kit that required too many reactions in a too short time window; Zed was just not my type of champion, just like I can't play ADC for my life. Yes, he is hard. But that should never be an argument to make a champ overly broken. Now that I've gotten to know the Zed's point of view a bit, the damage on his WQ combo is still WAY too much for being able to hit it consistently. Also I've played some games with him in S6, of course he's still just as hard to outplay people with, but winning lane has become way easier and is no longer a matter of flashy plays.
most people don't extensively play zed. They just get face rolled by one and decide it's easier to join the cry train instead of learning how to win.
So what you're saying is that we need to extensively grind Zed to have a chance to win? Yup sounds like a solution. I mean it's totally our fault that we play non-Zed midlaners. We should all stay in Bronze for that.
Zed's not too hard to play. His laning is by far the easiest thing in a match as Zed.However, playing against him in lane is a completely different story..
The only time Zed is actually difficult to play is when he gets countered in lane, (even then, just afk farm and roam) and/or when mid/late game fights pop around and everyone can cleanse the death mark.
Don't expect any upvotes; the boards has a permanent hatred boner for Zed, Lee sin, Vayne, and Riven
But I agree. If you zhonyas as soon as Zed ults then he has little burst, forcing him to stay nearby if he wants to even scratch you. After negating most of his burst it's a lot easier to fight back.
And about that "U used Zhonyas now ur surrounded by the enemy team"
Uh, if you are surrounded by the enemy team after zhonya-ing a zed ult you were completely out of position because that would mean your team isn't nearby at all. And if the enemy team just killed 4 of your team members, you're the last one left, and suddenly Zed ults you, you have bigger problems because your just lost 4 people and zed didn't use his ult which means other enemies are a bigger problem.
But hey, who gives a shit about considering counter arguments, let's just downvote this too
Of course since ADCs don't built Zhonyas I guess it's cool that Zed runs around globaling them in a 1v3 under their own tower and walking out alive, even at the LCS level. And that was with a QSS, once that is gone rofl.
That is stupid broken.
And now its active is going from a 90 second cd to a 120 second cd. Yay!
Yup, and Zed's early game will get nerfed for it.
Great, even more nerfs. Until he drops to 40% winrate. Maybe then the boards will stop crying about Zed.
I won't stop until it's below a 5% playrate personally.
Won't happen as long as Zed/Yasuo/Riven/Vayne stay status symbols for 14-year-old kids who think flashy plays are the entire point of this game.
I can't get over your level of salt at fun, mobile champions who also happen to perform well being popular. You're obviously a very angry person with your cookie cutter 4chan insult.
omae wa mou shindeiru
Not salty at people "having fun", but the nature of these champs' kits just attracts imbeciles.
The kit doesn't attract anything. Your personal bias of people who play that champion is attracting things, like negativity in game and in your mind. Fuck off.
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What "even more nerfs"? Has he already been nerfed on the pbe or something?
Are talking about an actual nerf, or a slap on the wrist that they then give him a buff for.
Thats why duskblade was created
What's a tower? The thing that shoots pretty lights to entertain us while we die?
No silly, they are used as guiding lights for the Dragon so he can find his pit.
Well, it does a very crappy job if it takes Dragon 5 minutes to find the damn pit.
Just like my GPS.
Thats why they are replacing the Dragon, his eyesight is not what it used to be.
;_;
A few more seconds that negates the pop that usually grants dem OP kills
What do you call a fed Yi?
Sated.
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What do you call a fed Yi?
Sated.
bloodrazer
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bloodrazer
agreed. I hate farming to sated
Ikr, I want to do things with my team sometimes.
Zed on the enemy team*
Law of Shaco in action
What do you call a fed Graves?
Graves.
What do you call Zed after he was banned?
The forbidden shadow.
That pun was Phreaky good.
Meanwhile in Ionia, Shen is mounting a trophy on his wall.
Akali: Who's ninja star is this? Shen: It's a shuriken baby. Akali: Who's shuriken is this? Shen: It's Zeds. Akali: Who's Zed? Shen: Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
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Meanwhile in Ionia, Shen is mounting a trophy on his wall.
Akali: Who's ninja star is this? Shen: It's a shuriken baby. Akali: Who's shuriken is this? Shen: It's Zeds. Akali: Who's Zed? Shen: Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
LOL.....was a great movie.
reference from?
Pulp Fiction
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reference from?
Pulp Fiction.
What do you call a fed support? Reported.
a FedMercy?