Allied
After they got hooked by enemy blitz "Sorry, I didn't ult you to me soon enough."
-later-
Me as support
gets hooked trying to stop dragon "no ult?"
"Sorry, thought you could dodge but then I remembered you're just gold
-end of the game-
defeat
Highest damage to champs on team
Tied within 100 of jungler for least damage to champs
"Never play support Vel'koz again baddy"
-.-
Wow, really? Amumu Support? you're just a feeder waiting to happen. (Gold III)
...
Just try not to die alright buddy? (Silver II)
...sigh....
Hate to tell you but you guys are losing lane. I'm gold and I've mained Amumu. He can't do shit bot lane.
30 mins in
3/8/2
12/0/5
8/2/24
..... So can we be friends now?
Riot
Give
Him
A
F-ing
Friend
I drown in tears of joy
out of those two he's the one who graduated?
You really think Chris would even make it pass elementary school?
and I don't think Lois would either,
You really think Chris would even make it pass elementary school?
Think he meant those two as in Peter and Lois....
I do wish some people would stop the rank carding, really I don't play ranked to avoid people like that and they get upset that they play with an unranked? makes no sense
Had the luck of not hitting level 30 until a week after Season 5 ended. Get to spend the entire year playing with ppl complaining that I don't have a border...
Ah that sucks man! But at least you made it to 30! That currently is a challenge all on it's own with all the smurfs and ragers out there at lower levels!
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Then if the Gold were to ramble the exact same thing of what the Bronze just said, I bet you'll listen huh.
I'd rather listen to a gold rather than a bronze ramble about things like balance.
I enjoy arguing with Plats.
Only because as a Silver I just know more because I watch a ton of Youtube videos about laning as a support in Diamond/Master ELO.
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lolwat
A lot of my friends are plat, and they assume they know how laning phase works like an LCS.
So when we lose lane, they want to FF immediately, or at least AFK and talk about how OP Luc is against Trist or something stupid.
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Laughing Fish I have seen enough of u and ur posts please get out and never come back again Thank you 
Really? Because I have never heard of you. http://49.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8a8ioM4tO1qg1mbqo10_r2_250.gif
What is this supposed to mean? Not that I support the original guy but literally anyone can spam and then become known.
But not anybody did do it. I did. http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/i-did-it.gif
I don't follow.
Unless you intend to just be saying nothing of substance (which I don't want to assume).
Laughing fish is love. Laughing fish is life.
oh, got a new version of this .gif? or have I been completely blind to the green Y this whole time?
I found a better version.
Just join in asking for a front-page filter. Fish isn't going anywhere so long as the mindless masses keep giving him attention.
A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence. You are aware of that, right?
There are limits. I'm not giving Carrot Top (Is he even still a thing?) a doctorates degree in laughology.
I'd consider M&G to be more like the dog that hides your car keys at this point. It's funny at first, but then it just gets repetitive and annoying. Sure the humorous spark might return every now and then when it hides the TV remote; but that doesn't change the fact that it still hides the car keys every morning before work.
While I do not share your disdain for M&G, that was an excellent analogy.
I really think that if the boards' designers love Reddit so much, they should make each portion a sub board and let you choose which sub boards are in your feed (Just like Reddit handles sub-reddits).
Kim Kardashian. Such smart by your logic.
I said humor, not blatant stupidity
Many people find the show funny. Many people would also find Laughing Fish's posts blatant stupidity.
You don't decide what a good sense of humor is lol.
Except the people who hate on Laughing Fish are literally only the people who have no sense of humor and want to have "serious discussion" about an online game.
I almost thought there was nothing more pathetic than 75% of the league community who think they're better than everyone for spending a good portion of their lives glued to their computer. But then, I saw people who did so, and also took it too seriously. :'D
would u listen to a bronze 5 player or a challenger player
im going to give more weight to challengers than bronze, sorry
So if a challenger made a bad decision for any reason and the bronze made a good one...? Rank simply implies your consistency with your skill and how far above it is compared to others. Bronze through gold are usually lower skill while plat and up are higher skill (( not including boosted accounts for plat, which is basically bronze but in higher elo for that reason )). Bronze would be inconsistent with good plays while gold is more consistent and the pattern goes on. Rank only really tells you so much. Especially if someone might be a great analyzer but have difficulty applying that in game or similar circumstances where maybe the person has a bigger knowledge base but struggles with the actual live game.
I think that the distinction between game knowledge and mechanics is an important one. I mean in general terms I think it is fine to expect a Diamond player to know about the game then a Bronze. But I don't think that higher rankings always mean that the player knows more about the game then a lower tier player. I am sure that there are low elo players that have a really good understanding of strategy, shot calling, and teamwork. But they are unable to climb quickly because they are lacking in mechanical skill and their ability to hard carry. And then you get the players that got to Platinum by playing one or two champions, but find themselves unable to climb higher as the competition gets better and teamwork becomes more important.
But I do tend to look at the rank more along the lines of what you said, a consistency factor. And even it say a plat player only has a couple champs they know, they will likely be more consistent on them.
So if a challenger made a bad decision for any reason and the bronze made a good one...?
If you already know the answer,why bother asking?
Rank simply implies your consistency with your skill and how far above it is compared to others. Bronze through gold are usually lower skill while plat and up are higher skill (( not including boosted accounts for plat, which is basically bronze but in higher elo for that reason )). Bronze would be inconsistent with good plays while gold is more consistent and the pattern goes on. Rank only really tells you so much.
As someone who played random ranked 5s(so I've seen some strange variances in skill there),it's kinda of hard to put so little weight into something which in practice just means gold get's absolutely demolished by diamond if both sides get something they are comfortable on.
Especially if someone might be a great analyzer but have difficulty applying that in game or similar circumstances where maybe the person has a bigger knowledge base but struggles with the actual live game.
That's some pretty wild "maybes" you have going on there,why would this happen? How would a person be great at analyzing things yet somehow incapable of applying them when he himself is playing?
Have great game knowledge but shit mechanics? just play jungle or support(the more forgiving ones(not squishy,not poke based) like leona/blitz/naut) and use that to climb,can't do that? Then your game knowledge probably isn't as great as you thought it to be.
The redundancy was the point.
I think we are agreeing here but with different arguments? If you play well consistently and with more knowledge of a match-up/champion/personal team, then you usually get a higher rank because that displays your average gameplay. Not when you do exceptionally well or incredibly bad.
Many theory crafters may have great abilities at reading roams, timing, item paths, etc. However the problem comes when they actually have to do it themselves. Having to make live decisions isn't the same as looking at a screen and understanding when and how things should happen under optimal conditions. Same goes for when people may have great talent but have trouble understanding a diverse set of skills (( i.e learning one-two roles/champions and struggling elsewhere )) which results in the opposite where they are absolutely astounding in very specific areas but are lack-luster when forced into something else.
- The redundancy was the point.
I'm not sure what you are referring to.
- I think we are agreeing here but with different arguments? If you play well consistently and with more knowledge of a match-up/champion/personal team, then you usually get a higher rank because that displays your average gameplay. Not when you do exceptionally well or incredibly bad.
I don't think we are agreeing really,maybe on something which builds up to the main point,but not on the main point itself.
- Many theory crafters may have great abilities at reading roams, timing, item paths, etc. However the problem comes when they actually have to do it themselves.Having to make live decisions isn't the same as looking at a screen and understanding when and how things should happen under optimal conditions.
How can you be good at predicting build paths,but not know how to build them yourself? And sure it can be possible for a person to be held back by subpar delay times or lack of practice,but if you really understand the game you should be able to hit diamond at the very least.
Same goes for when people may have great talent but have trouble understanding a diverse set of skills (( i.e learning one-two roles/champions and struggling elsewhere )) which results in the opposite where they are absolutely astounding in very specific areas but are lack-luster when forced into something else.
The thing is those people generally won't talk too much about those things(say a mid main who plays only mid won't talk much about the state of adcs)
But let me just make my point from scratch: when you are on the boards(or reddit,or whatever) and people are arguing/discussing OR someone is asking for advice,at least the challenger has proven himself as a very good player(and quite frankly,most of them aren't just good at only one aspect,VERY hard to reach high that way,diamonds are generally good all around,challenger are great all around),add to that the obnoxious attitude of the boards AND bronze+silver and the only thing they can offer is a proof of incompetence(their skill)+a very strong likelihood that they are full of shit(the "I'm only silver cause my team sucks" isn't a very rare attitude for them),so they'll tell you they have a challenjour level of game understanding,what are you gonna do with that? considering the attitude of most people chances are high they are just too stupid to see how bad everything they do is.
All in all the "ranked card" is very often a very reasonable reply to people who completely overestimate their understanding, unfortunately(due to the infamous dunning kruger) they are unlikely to realize it, but presenting actual arguments is senseless, they don't have the understanding to realize their full weight, and will just constantly devalue them while pretend that theirs are much more accurate(when they are in fact worthless,see all the winrate sheep going around here).
Oh okay NOW I see where we're disagreeing, though I understand the general idea you're getting at now. I thought you were using it as a blanket statement compared to "Under most circumstances" and you can see why I was hesitant on your idea. I still disagree that the majority of players in lower ELO behave in that way, though I can affirm from my friends it's much more common in lower ranks so I'm split on my opinion there.
Finally, I think the best example to kind of show what I mean by knowledge vs skill would be this as an example:
Imagine for instance I do a TON of research on a game before I play it. This is a PvE game with a multitude of weapons and the enemies usually follow set patterns with the occasional change due to certain factors that cause the change. I could know EXACTLY how much damage each weapon does and how quickly along with the best patterns to avoid damage from enemies. However, KNOWING isn't the same as DOING. Even if I know all this info, that doesn't mean I have the reaction time to dodge, feel comfortable with the weapon I'm using despite it theoretically causing the most damage the fastest, or even how to handle multiple enemies at a time.
Practice is what improves natural skill while knowledge helps reduce risk in a situation.
Oh okay NOW I see where we're disagreeing, though I understand the general idea you're getting at now. I thought you were using it as a blanket statement compared to "Under most circumstances" and you can see why I was hesitant on your idea. I still disagree that the majority of players in lower ELO behave in that way, though I can affirm from my friends it's much more common in lower ranks so I'm split on my opinion there.
It's not exactly that,it's a combination of a lot of things. Say for example I would see a challenger(note that I'm saying challenger for there to be a meaningful skillgap between us,though masters would work as well) make a statement I disagree with,here are options on how I will react to it: 1)If I don't really understand or care for the matter at hand,I will likely just leave it be. 2)If I do understand the matter at hand and feel like the person is sensible about it,I will ask for clarifications on certain things which don't make sense to me. 3)If the person doesn't seem very sensible,I will likely see what other challengers who understand the matter at hand(for example I won't ask mid mains about jungle),then call him out on it depending on what they say.
As you can see here,the only case where I actually argue requires a decent amount of work on my end,and I honestly believe my approach is the same approach of sensible people(and there are plenty of those in silver/gold),but that actually means that they are most likely to either say nothing,or take their word for it and not argue.
In contrast,an idiot will be VERY eager to share his inexperienced and moronic views on right about anything,and don't expect him to phrase himself in a way which state "well I'm not too sure about it",instead he will spew complete and utter bullshit as if it's a universal truth.
Due to the distribution of the playerbase+a lot of people on the boards are silver/bronze out to prove themselves+idiots are much more likely to argue with better players than sensible people,you get that most arguments are dominated by idiots and buzzwords(quite likely with both sides having no idea what they are talking about).
Hell,take the famed winrate sheeps of the boards,with this "argument" being spammed constantly in every balance thread,now even though most people don't base their perception of balance on winrates,these comments generally dominate upvotes and what people think of the subject(unless we are talking about lee sin and friends),why do you think that is?
Hint: Every idiot can say winrates tell everything and thus grant him complete understanding of the matter at hand(hence they are very eager to do just that),people who actually play the game well know that's just not the case.
Finally, I think the best example to kind of show what I mean by knowledge vs skill would be this as an example:
Imagine for instance I do a TON of research on a game before I play it. This is a PvE game with a multitude of weapons and the enemies usually follow set patterns with the occasional change due to certain factors that cause the change. I could know EXACTLY how much damage each weapon does and how quickly along with the best patterns to avoid damage from enemies. However, KNOWING isn't the same as DOING. Even if I know all this info, that doesn't mean I have the reaction time to dodge, feel comfortable with the weapon I'm using despite it theoretically causing the most damage the fastest, or even how to handle multiple enemies at a time.
See here's the thing,all of your argument is based on reaction times,but some matchups are defined by them,I mean let's face it,slow the game(Basically everything stays the same but time moves at 0.25 the speed) down and the game changes in nature,even on a competitive level champions will grow both weaker and stronger,this is why for example a lot of people on the boards are delusional to how hard of a counter yasuo actually is to skillshot based champs,they don't really see the good ones,those who show you that the champion is in fact capable of dodging skillshots very consistently,and not just randomly like they do in bronze.
Practice is what improves natural skill while knowledge helps reduce risk in a situation.
Not really,If your knowledge of the game is very good,you should be able to reach diamond by jungling.
Finally I'll say it actually is possible for a bronze player to have a good understanding of the game,but mostly by parroting statements made by actually good players,that actually doesn't really devalue his knowledge in any way,but he can state his sources when making a statement solving the whole issue,otherwise,and seriously: if you have good knowledge of the game,your rank should reflect that.
I think we could leave it at a "Agree to disagree" status. You seem to know what you're talking about within this specific subject (( I do agree with some of what you're saying, just not the WHOLE idea )) so it might just come down to the person on how they view it. Though I do like the example of people over-exaggerating how powerful champions are such as Yasuo, I'm keeping that argument in my back pocket.
Though I do like the example of people over-exaggerating how powerful champions are such as Yasuo, I'm keeping that argument in my back pocket.
To be fair,the way I feel about yasuo is that he just tramples over riot's anti hard counter policy since he is flashy,I'd also argue that it's also the exact same reason people love him so much(if your going yasuo against a good lissandra,chances are you won't have fun),people love to be in the spot where when they die/lose they feel "Well I could've just played this better",instead of "There's shit I could've done here".
He has good matchups and he has bad matchups,but sometimes a champion becomes too good at his niche and can still be overpowered(though it will often be translated to picks changing in advance to react to his state(champions he counters just won't be picked),instead of him being banned),though that doesn't seem to be the case currently.
So point is: He is hated because he is such a hard counter to some champs(one of the hardest in the game to a very large pool of champions,but needs to be played properly to do that),most people either can't put a finger on that or like to exaggerate,but in contrast to other champions(like sona for example) who's power is capped due to certain matchups they do too well in,yasuo isn't in that boat(with his state of power depending on how riot feels that patch) and often is allowed to be very strong even in unfavorable matchups(doesn't seem to be the case right now) while completely destroying favorable ones.
Overall he's a horribly designed champion and needs to be reworked so he won't shitstomp champions with telegraphed abilities so hard,and left in a weak spot until that is achieved.