When someone says your opinion doesn't count because you are Bronze

Laughing Fish·Aug 19, 2015·54 votes·5,411 views

And you are all like: http://img.pandawhale.com/post-54249-Haters-Gonna-Hate-Imgur-5Cmj.gif

73 Comments

GorgannanAug 19, 201521 votes

Usually I'd agree, but when they say things like "Vayne Jung is op because you can't shut her down!"

I tend to think "Hey, I've never met anyone in Gold+ say something that stupid.

I urgot about itAug 19, 20152 votes

well you cant shut her down late game c:

TenSlashTenAug 19, 20151 votes

thats the thing. You let an adc get to late game then its your fault. lol. Adc has to hit 250+ cs with no kills before its even at 3+ useful items to contribute actual damage compared to the bursty mid laner or bruiser jungler/top laner

I urgot about itAug 20, 20151 votes

but maybe your team doesnt know how to end or they keep picking you out till 40+

TenSlashTenAug 20, 20151 votes

thats low elo buddy. Once you get up to 2k+ area you'll start seeing people relatively punish most bad team comps so hard

I urgot about itAug 20, 20151 votes

what do you mean? ive seen 2 vayne jungles and this is plat.

TenSlashTenAug 20, 20151 votes

WOW 2 WOWWWW..Lol

I urgot about itAug 20, 20151 votes

they won.

DecaedeusAug 20, 20151 votes

But then is it really because they're bronze that they have such a stupid opinion? No, it's because they have a stupid opinion that they're bronze.

Don't attack the symptom of the problem, attack the cause. "Hey, you're bronze so your opinion doesn't count," does not contribute to the discussion and lowers yourself to their level of stupidity. Conversely, "Hey, your opinion doesn't make sense because Vayne jungle offers no early presence and can be counter-jungled easily," not only adds to the discussion, but makes them understand why they are wrong. Ranking is not a reason to dismiss someone's opinion.

GorgannanAug 20, 20151 votes

Do they have cancer because they are sick, or are they sick because they have cancer?

I wouldn't treat a well person. Does it really matter which comes first? I'd even argue that you just made my point. If they knew what they were talking about, they'd be higher.

I've never heard someone make great points and then be shut down because of their rank. I've OFTEN heard people make stupid points that get shot down, and then when they argue, people point out their rank. It's a completely different thing.

chipndip1Aug 19, 201514 votes

High elo players tend to be way too rude, but low elo players tend to say stupid crap anyway.

Daedalus871Aug 19, 201530 votes

Everyone says stupid crap.

ChaosThiefAug 19, 20154 votes

And whoever says otherwise is lying.

C9 DrizzyÀkaliMay 6, 20161 votes

ikr

I urgot about itAug 19, 20152 votes

not all are rude :( some in ranked are just really nice

GhostOfShrimpmasAug 19, 20152 votes

#notallhighelo

SkiasAug 20, 20151 votes

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High elo players tend to be way too rude, but low elo players tend to say stupid crap anyway.

I've seen high elo players say some stupid crap too.

Gentleman GemsAug 19, 201512 votes

AP Assassin Jax is so http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0p9007A2G1rrnep7o1_500.gif

Vi and CupcaitAug 19, 20153 votes

Smashisaurus Smex?

Gentleman GemsAug 19, 20151 votes

Yes, he has the E.L.L Combo (Empower, Leapstrike, Lichbane) that can kill ADC's at half health, His ultimate's passive scales of a lot of AP, as well as his Empower and Leapstrike, and mix that with attack speed and at max level and he can fuck any ADC, Mage, and any Sqishy champ before they can recover from the stun

5000000000000000Aug 19, 20151 votes

I think you meant L.E.L. Combo (Leapstrike, Empower, Lichbane)

Gentleman GemsAug 19, 20151 votes

Empower can boost the damage of Leapstrike

Mecha MaIphiteAug 20, 20151 votes

It's better to use W to get your auto off faster.

Vi and CupcaitAug 20, 20152 votes

http://1.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/29/82/20befd0953a3cc8f9cd8b2aaa8a4d3d7.gif

ƒoesAug 19, 201511 votes

When you haven't finished your promos and your ranked team places you in Bronze V http://media.giphy.com/media/wvQIqJyNBOCjK/giphy.gif

true story

BakedLotionAug 22, 20151 votes

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When you haven't finished your promos and your ranked team places you in Bronze V http://media.giphy.com/media/wvQIqJyNBOCjK/giphy.gif

true story

how do u get bronze in rank teams? I'm literally trying to lose every single game and i cant get bronze -___- I lost 4 out of 5 of my rank team placements and i got silver 3. What the fuck. I want that bronze icon.

Colgate GatorAug 19, 20155 votes

Not really sure that "haters gonna hate" is the meme that fits this case specifically, but go ahead.

If anything, it's because Bronze-Silvers are very vocal about how X thing is broken and should be gutted/deleted and rito is stupid for not doing so, and that people can be rarely talked about it without the talk becoming an insult fest.

Emperor TimeAug 19, 20154 votes

uhhh not so much that people are haters, it's that bronze opinions don't actually matter. I had friends that were bronze, but the second you try to explain to them their mistakes after a game and they just shut down and act like they know more than you or some shit. They also never listen to my advice so fuck em, they don't want to get better then that's their own fucking problem.

sealustAug 20, 20151 votes

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uhhh not so much that people are haters, it's that bronze opinions don't actually matter. I had friends that were bronze, but the second you try to explain to them their mistakes after a game and they just shut down and act like they know more than you or some shit. They also never listen to my advice so fuck em, they don't want to get better then that's their own fucking problem.

So fucking true. I have this friend who's been in bronze 5ever and he pretty routinely complains about his rank but refuses to take any advice (from a friend who's two whole leagues above him btw) or improve his game then turns around and tries to tell me how to play. Like, sit the fuck down, mate.

AsReelAsItGetsAug 19, 20153 votes

Yeah I am here in Bronze talking and others tell me to shut up because they are Silver or diamond and instant know more than I do because they keep pointing out about their ranking positions. I know that not everyone is an ass at higher Elo but there are a lot of it out there. People with higher Elo have an ego so far up their ass they honestly think they are perfect.

It's stupid. It's like they don't need to use logic anymore.

chipndip1Aug 19, 20152 votes

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Yeah I am here in Bronze talking and others tell me to shut up because they are Silver or diamond and instant know more than I do because they keep pointing out about their ranking positions. I know that not everyone is an ass at higher Elo but there are a lot of it out there. People with higher Elo have an ego so far up their ass they honestly think they are perfect.

It's stupid. It's like they don't need to use logic anymore.

It's that you probably don't GET their logic, so they don't want to explain. On the flip side, you might get it but they just don't want to explain regardless. The problem is double-sided.

BaunjoAug 19, 20157 votes

No they really do have ego's out the ass, some of them refuse to achknowledge basic concepts that everyone can agree on because they think they are jesus in the flesh

AsReelAsItGetsAug 20, 20151 votes

Thank you.

Daedalus871Aug 19, 20153 votes

I'm not saying that Bronze opinions don't matter, but if the only argument for a champions imbalance is "I always wreck as X and X always wrecks me" then being bronze does invalidate your opinion. If you look at the kit though and how it functions in game, then you may have a point.

IcyPepperAug 19, 20154 votes

I think the key difference is "You're bronze, your opinion doesn't matter" versus "That champion functions at a different level in Plat+, bronze just isn't enough."

Like Katarina, for example. Much less of a pain in the ass in higher elos, I hear.

manbearswineAug 19, 20151 votes

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I think the key difference is "You're bronze, your opinion doesn't matter" versus "That champion functions at a different level in Plat+, bronze just isn't enough."

Like Katarina, for example. Much less of a pain in the ass in higher elos, I hear.

It's more that if they make an argument there's something to talk about,if they start using personal experience(i.e "I always wreck on x"/"x is free elo cause op damage"),it's kinda worthless.

SkiasAug 20, 20151 votes

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It's more that if they make an argument there's something to talk about,if they start using personal experience(i.e "I always wreck on x"/"x is free elo cause op damage"),it's kinda worthless.

That's worthless at high elo as well. The sample size of a single player's experience is nearly worthless in the grand scheme of things.

manbearswineAug 20, 20151 votes

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That's worthless at high elo as well. The sample size of a single player's experience is nearly worthless in the grand scheme of things.

Really isn't the case.

High elo players generally understand what they are doing a lot better,so they are also much more consistent at punishing stupid things,meaning that in higher elos if you pick something stupid people will likely show you why it's stupid a lot faster than in the lower elos.

I agree that a person generally needs to play a role a lot/main it for it to work,so the personal experience of a person who rarely plays jungle about junglers doesn't say too much,but a mid main talking about mid will generally get things right,at least as far as champions he's not biased about are concerned.

WutsKrakenAug 19, 20153 votes

Bronze opinions matter...except for the balance complaints. Sorry folks but when Bronze complains something stupid like "Vayne jungle is OP" or "Laners should all get Sated Devourer because it's OP" then I'm just like...no

SwapShadowsAug 19, 20152 votes

Well when most of them try to act like their opinions are fact based on what they see in their bronze games then yea, their opinions mean shit.

I had a bronze try to tell me you can zhonyas and prevent annie from instakilling you..... yea.............................................

Tails DollAug 19, 20153 votes

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Well when most of them try to act like their opinions are fact based on what they see in their bronze games then yea, their opinions mean shit.

I had a bronze try to tell me you can zhonyas and prevent annie from instakilling you..... yea.............................................

Well... you can? If you time it right you can avoid 2 skills and make her waste her ult and her W and her stun... Who is the bronze now buddy?

BaunjoAug 19, 20151 votes

Lol I had a big argument with this guy over either Riven or lee sin being OP, this guy is total garbage

*Edit for the record he was the one crying OP

SkiasAug 20, 20151 votes

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Well... you can? If you time it right you can avoid 2 skills and make her waste her ult and her W and her stun... Who is the bronze now buddy?

I thought the same thing.

Renegade Angel95Aug 19, 20152 votes

I'm only Gold so I'm willing to listen to better, higher ranked players. Rank determines how good of a player you are, if you're high up then you understand the game well and are probably able to do things your lower ranked players won't be able. For the most part I don't consider anyone's opinion if they are bronze, because that elo is God awful. I tried smurfing in ranked for fun and I now understand why people complain about their team, they really do suck. But so does the enemy team.

Someone in diamond would have a much easier time playing in my elo and I respect that and if debating between several diamond players I'd concede my opinion if several higher ranked players all agreed against my opinion.

So yeah, to anyone who is in bronze; to me your opinion doesn't matter. Work on th mechanics and game knowledge and then you'll see. It's not hard.

SkiasAug 20, 20151 votes

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I'm only Gold so I'm willing to listen to better, higher ranked players. Rank determines how good of a player you are, if you're high up then you understand the game well and are probably able to do things your lower ranked players won't be able. For the most part I don't consider anyone's opinion if they are bronze, because that elo is God awful. I tried smurfing in ranked for fun and I now understand why people complain about their team, they really do suck. But so does the enemy team.

Someone in diamond would have a much easier time playing in my elo and I respect that and if debating between several diamond players I'd concede my opinion if several higher ranked players all agreed against my opinion.

So yeah, to anyone who is in bronze; to me your opinion doesn't matter. Work on th mechanics and game knowledge and then you'll see. It's not hard.

I don't base someone's opinion on their rank. Morello is Silver and he's spent years working as the lead designer of this game. Just because you're not mechanically sound, doesn't mean you don't make good observations.

By this logic, every person who enjoys sports can't make an observation unless they physically played pro.

GorgannanAug 20, 20151 votes

While I agree with the point, the example is quite bad. Notice, that lead designer doesn't require knowledge of the game. It requires knowledge of what you WANT the game to be.

SkiasAug 22, 20151 votes

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While I agree with the point, the example is quite bad. Notice, that lead designer doesn't require knowledge of the game. It requires knowledge of what you WANT the game to be.

I completely disagree. As a lead designer you absolutely need to require knowledge of the game.

Kuzja1May 6, 20162 votes

Imagine if you're not even in ranked

KnighRriderAug 20, 20151 votes

From what I understand, high elo players are playing a completely different game than low elo players. And therefore most of the stupid things low elo players complain about aren't even noticed by high elo players because they have more experience and a better understanding of how to deal with it. Its almost like Riot has to rebalance 2 different games. xD I'm low elo here so I'm not just bashing low elo players, high elo players are rude often... but I wouldn't say any more than low elo players.

Laughing FishAug 20, 20152 votes