when the adc allows the thresh to get a cannon minion, and he misses his aa
this is why i hate thresh players. youre not even melee and youre a shit for tank cuz of the soul mechanic making you MUCH weaker than any other tank unless he gets stupid fed taking kills.
His power tends to rely more on straight utility. He has CC, a shield, poke, and can scale well without having to even touch CS (outside of Relic Shield).
I know this so i feel like another utility item like the talisman would and is better on him now. He doesnt scale well with HP unless WAY late game comes around and he starts actually acquiring souls
The reason people buy Relic Shield on him is because it gives tank stats (what he works best with, unless you go ADC Thresh one-shot) and even though you can't execute the minions, you have your E passive to do it for you.
would rather have the 45 armor from talisman and its active than a crappy shield and its passive
gives 450 HP and 100% hp regen. Those are decent stats as well.
I almost always go coin (5% CDR start and sustain is nice, and I don't have to risk missing cannons), but relic shield isn't bad if you can last hit.
I think you grievously misunderstand why Thresh is played.
Yep. I play support a lot and I have been threatened to get reported after auto attacking 1 minion xD
The worst times are when you have

I don't care what you have, you leave the CS to the carries ######kappa
Oh look the cannon minion is in execute range! Vayne tumbles from off screen, last hits it, flashes mastery
Fml
Auto attacking = good for pushing
Last hitting = bad
no. just Auto attacking. no last hit
The one thing that shouldn't bother me that does, is when I am trying to last hit under tower with minions, but my support keeps messing up the rhythm and I miss the entire wave.
I understand they are trying to help me last hit the casters, as with no minions, they take two auto attacks in the early game, but it always makes me sad.
Totally get that. And then if you even ask them to politely lay off aa or attacking the cs many times they act like you're telling them to jump off a bridge. It's like nah, just let me get my rhythm and be in the groove so I can cs as best as I can.
I sometimes have the opposite. Jinx and a kayle support took 23 of my cs early game. I couldnt steal the cs because her autoattack animation is faster than me, and she gets the splash damage off.
I rarely face ADC's who whine about that, but then again, I only auto when I have charges for

????
Is that a new item?
When the support goes on a last-hitting spree, and he builds
. WTF??
When the support goes on a last-hitting spree, and he builds
. WTF??
When your not in lane and I am it's better to let someone have the gold than let it be wasted.
tbh i never complain when they take cs accidently or something like that but when they keep attacking the creeps it just messes really hard with my farming pattern...
UR BACK #PRAISETHEFISH
Ive had adcs who yell and dc at me in ranked when i give them minions with
charges up because they forget or didn't know im giving them money as well.
I actually don't mind if the support takes a few cs. What I can't understand is when they try helping me cs under turret only to end up messing it all up like they've never seen how much damage a turret shot does to a caster minion.
A very valid point. It is hard to cs under Tower if the support damages the minions, especially if the ADC already has a weak cs game like I do
yes.
The adc and sup should always push to hit lvl 2 first. I hate it when the adc doesn't try to push at all and only last hits while pinging back at you for trying to compensate for their error. It puts your lane at such a disadvantage because there are too many minions to to trade with the enemy without taking heavy dmg from creep aggro.