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Sypher The Poro13 votes

I enjoy both Riven and Zed. They're tons of fun to play, but I hate where they stand balance wise.

Riven's AD scaling shield is stupid.

Zed's infinite range on ult shadow is stupid too.

They would make a nice stupid couple.

unban swifty8 votes

b-but... Zed x Syndra... ;w;

Kerrigan 4 Prez4 votes

What about Yasuo x Riven

CorruptShadowsxx1 votes

Just read and you will feel the love. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9952668/1/Follow-the-Wind

Baron of Bread6 votes

I am sorry, but Zac x Riven is the best ship.

KANYE OBAMA GOD2 votes

Azir x Anivia srry

Laughing Fish2 votes

Urgot + Sona. Can you imagine what the babies would look like? http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=803114

supes the lost1 votes

...I'm concerned as to whether or not I should click that link.

Edit: It was bad but it wan't that bad.

CorruptShadowsxx1 votes

UPVOTES for Zedx Syndra and Yasuo x Riven #fanficOP http://imgur.com/a/8ltAH https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9952668/1/Follow-the-Wind

CorruptShadowsxx2 votes

Yasss Read this http://imgur.com/a/8ltAH

unban swifty1 votes

That's what I was referring to. c:

Eraest971 votes

THANKS FOR PUTTING ME ON THIS FEELS TRAIN!!

Keevalroy4 votes

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b-but... Zed x Syndra... ;w;

Syndra deserves better than a CertainlyT champion.

Rito Jericho8 votes

I don't care who you play, as long as you aren't a troll or anything of the like. If you KNOW what you are doing, I don't care who you play in what lane. I just want to play the game and have fun!!

Ariel the Cruel12 votes

as long as you aren't a troll

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Vi and Cupcait1 votes

But Trundle is a king...???

Rito Jericho1 votes

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lol. You misunderstood. THAT troll is fine. The other kind (the online kind) is what I won't put up with if I can avoid it.

Joquan2 votes

Sometimes I like bringing out Garen Mid to counter combo champs such as zed/leblanc in either lane or teamfights. Much more fun than top lane because you get to go bot without pushing the wave and missing a lot of cs.

Chaotic Reks2 votes

I KNEW IT! IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

I like to use Shyvana.

Gentleman Gems6 votes

I love Zed in the mid lane and I'm Proud!!!

WolfChases6 votes

Let's be honest here. I Know a lot of you simply do not like CertainlyT because his champions are overloaded, but all of his champions are indeed fun to play with. There are only a few champions that aren't CertainlyT's that can actually share the ''Cool Club'' with Zed Yasuo Zyra Thresh Kalista Darius and those are Vayne Draven Elise and Azir simply because CertainlyT's champions looks like they are from completely different dimension comparing to other champions.

Keevalroy3 votes

because CertainlyT's champions looks like they are from completely different dimension comparing to other champions.

They should stay in that dimension.

I Know a lot of you simply do not like CertainlyT because his champions are overloaded, but all of his champions are indeed fun to play with.

It's not JUST that they're overloaded, and if you know why a lot of us don't like him or his champions I think you can fill in all of the blanks for why else that is.

Are his champions fun to play as? Yeah okay some are, but are they fun to play against? I guess if you're a CertainlyT fanboy or a masochist they would be.

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

Are his champions fun to play as? Yeah okay some are

At very least, he gave us some small consolation with Kalista. Carpel tunnel is fuuuuuuuun. (unless they, like me, use a track ball. :/ )

WolfChases3 votes

Why do you have to be such a dick and call me a ''Fanboy or a masochist''? If I have stated that CertainlyT champions are fun as hell that's damn true because they fucking ARE FUN but that doesn't means that I am playing ANY of those. My mains are Vayne, Draven and Lucian and none of those is made by CertainlyT.

CertainlyT is genius, his champions are masterpieces and no one can deny that. Problem with all of you is that you think that it's champion's designers fault if champion ends up being OP. Nope, nope and nope CHAMPION DESIGNER is not the same as BALANCE DESIGNER.

CertailnyT made ZED, definitely one of the most fun champions in game by far, but it's not his fault that Zed can kill an ADC with WEQ after he gets 3rd item :) Zed is supposed to be an ultimate reliant high burst damage assassin and he is that according to his kit but NUMBERS BOY...NUMBERS are problem!

Delioth1 votes

Well, I mean.... CertainlyT has great ideas, but the kits are still overloaded. They could give all the champions from him a little bit more balance in terms of numbers if he was just limited on how many things he could stuff in there. Like if he was given a co-designer that made half the kit, and took off random passives from other abilities.

WolfChases1 votes

I agree that there are a few things those champions do not need. Zed's passive should NOT affect minions, Kalista's Rend should NOT slow on top of that much kite from her passive, etc, etc.

But honestly his champions vs other designer champions are like Ferrari F430 Spider vs Fiat 500 (old)

Salron4 votes

So people are not allowed to have fun now? Great progress we've made, GD

Kitty Darkstar3 votes

I enjoy playing Riven, yet I lose every time.

Kapppaccino1 votes

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I enjoy playing Riven, yet I lose every time.

Kill your laner , " back" ( roam bot secretly ) double kill, get drag. Rinse repeat=win

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

Kill your laner

Braum Haha, no.

Kapppaccino1 votes

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Braum Haha, no.

How will Braum stop me from killing my laner(top) lmao

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

You've never seen Braum go top, have you?

Kapppaccino1 votes

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You've never seen Braum go top, have you?

No .-.

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

I've yet to see a Riven beat a good Braum in top lane. A lot of times, Braum just gets first blood; since he basically ignores her lvl 1 cheese.

Braum doesn't normally win lane, unless his lane opponent over commits. His role when top is to stall out the lane and basically deny snowball champs any sort of progression. Since his greatest attribute is the ability to soak up "tons of damage" and not die.


EDIT: Sadly, the last 2 times I ran with this, I wound up facing Nasus. Sure, neither of them ever die (or reach half health for that matter), but he can't really stop Nasus from farming his Q stacks.

Kapppaccino1 votes

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I've yet to see a Riven beat a good Braum in top lane. A lot of times, Braum just gets first blood; since he basically ignores her lvl 1 cheese.

Braum doesn't normally win lane, unless his lane opponent over commits. His role when top is to stall out the lane and basically deny snowball champs any sort of progression. Since his greatest attribute is the ability to soak up "tons of damage" and not die.


EDIT: Sadly, the last 2 times I ran with this, I wound up facing Nasus. Sure, neither of them ever die (or reach half health for that matter), but he can't really stop Nasus from farming his Q stacks.

But riven can hella bait his shield, and blow him up level 3 no? He doesn't have good auto speed, so riven can auto q auto q auto q auto w and if Braum has 2-3 stacks, riven can e to juke his q then auto ignite for kill level 3? Maybe it's just me being biased cus riven, but I can't see Braum getting in 4 stacks on riven with her cc disrupting him .-.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Braum's shield lets him ignore unit collision, so he can just weave through the minion wave to disrupt her AA's. His shield duration is also 4 seconds; while riven has a max gap of 4 seconds between Q's. So if timed correctly, he'll wall at least 2 of them (his wall reduces incoming damage by 30% at rank 1 and completely ignores the first instance). And even with her CC chain, you still have to be in AA range to use any of her abilities. If you use your dashes to avoid stacks, you're giving him a window to disengage.

Again. I never see Braum win lane, unless his opponent plays recklessly. But that's not his job. His goal as a top laner is to simply be an immovable object. He doesn't die, he doesn't loose tower, and he counter-roams.

Similar to when people run Lulu top. She doesn't have to win lane to be effective. She just has to soak up solo-lane gold and experience. Shutting down her opponent is a bonus.

Kapppaccino2 votes

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Braum's shield lets him ignore unit collision, so he can just weave through the minion wave to disrupt her AA's. His shield duration is also 4 seconds; while riven has a max gap of 4 seconds between Q's. So if timed correctly, he'll wall at least 2 of them (his wall reduces incoming damage by 30% at rank 1 and completely ignores the first instance). And even with her CC chain, you still have to be in AA range to use any of her abilities. If you use your dashes to avoid stacks, you're giving him a window to disengage.

Again. I never see Braum win lane, unless his opponent plays recklessly. But that's not his job. His goal as a top laner is to simply be an immovable object. He doesn't die, he doesn't loose tower, and he counter-roams.

Similar to when people run Lulu top. She doesn't have to win lane to be effective. She just has to soak up solo-lane gold and experience. Shutting down her opponent is a bonus.

That makes sense. Thanks for educating me a bit more on league :)

Kitty Darkstar1 votes

I'm bad at roaming

The Soulforged3 votes

Unfortunately GD can be really mean to people who say anything semi-good about the champions.

AbstracT Theory2 votes

if people quit complaining about champions and learned how and who to play against them thatd be great. Zed tends to be weak when you get qss and exaust as a sum spell, he is also weak to long range mages or a tanky mid laner. Riven is a snowbally champion that deals 100% damage as physical(that means armor reduces it) Cloth + 5 Pots to start and a second cloth on first back will prevent you from losing most trades. As soon as you have 1-2 armor items she can no longer trade with you unless you have already screwed up and allowed her to eat you.

As a riven main i can say that i play off of mistakes, so where you overextend or do anything that puts the fights odd in my favor i immediately react and i will probably kill you. You just have to see where you made that mistake and fix it.

Laughing Fish3 votes

Exactly. I used to always lose to Fizz. I kept claiming he was overpowered, broken, etc. But as soon as I stopped doing that and actually studied the champions exact strengths and weaknesses, Fizz became very beatable. Once you accept that you cannot beat a champion, you never will.

Nidalee SO NYAAA1 votes

This Nidalee too

Mango Loco1 votes

Everyone likes playing riven and zed you just feel dirty afterwards

TwoD1 votes

boards must be filled with trash then

JerrBear71 votes

Am I missing something? What's wrong with Zed and Riven? I knew why people hate Teemo but not Zed and Riven. I find them fun :P

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