Feelssadbatman
Holy powercreep batman!
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MY ult is best because it isolates the target
No MY ult is best because i create wall as well as isolate the target and i force them to flash out
hi boys
[zombie-nunu-bummed]
xin zhao and j4 damage everyone they hit. j4 can trap multiple people for combos. Both of their ults do damage on impact (lots) while camilles ONLY adds damage to her next basic attacks.
They are all totally different.
It's like calling syndras ult and veigars the same since they both just do single target nukes. Syndras puts balls everywhere to push/stun. veigars is an execute.
Should probably quit monkeying around
Hey, don't be ashamed. A good WU is fricken terrifying.
Oh powercreep. How we despise you so.
(R) Camille dashes toward the target enemy champion, becoming untargetable during the leap. When she lands, she creates a locked, hexagonal zone around the target for 4 seconds, knocking away all other nearby enemies on impact. The target can move freely inside the zone, but cannot escape it through any means. while within the zone, Camille's basic attacks deal bonus magic damage.
The target can move freely inside the zone, but cannot escape it through any means.
cannot escape it through any means.

First thing I thought watching the spotlight, "Wait isn't that Jarvan's thing?"
But seriously, far as I can tell there's no reason to take Jarvan over Camille.
jarvan does a lot more damage and is really strong right now he is easier to play and is scary as hell, can buff his teams Attack speed while being mobile himself and his ult can chuck adc and mages, something people are overlooking is that when she pushs people out they can(and will) walk back in and murder her cause she will not instakill her target unless shes full ad
yeah j4 can get way tankier and he has way more TF utility with his aoe knockup and ult
I want to see what they have planned to update them. I have a feeling they're either going to do nothing for "nostalgia's sake" or make them all gamebreakingly op.
I think Camille and Warwick's update (when that is revealed) will be big tells in what Riot has planned for divers. There has been a lot of stuff implemented in Camille's kit which I think might give some insight into what Riot has planned, but we will need to see Warwick's new kit to know if all of the new stuff is for her alone or if other divers might gain similar mechanics.
I "hehe xD"'d at that

Can confirm, unless you are scrub trash like me and don't know how to handle certain situations.
Aatrox :-:
Who?
Best Minion 2016
Warwick it's my diver champ. Since season 2.
I feel that bro.
Now I'm worried Camille power creeping all of our fav divers or ya know Rito buffs all the divers and suddenly the old divers become op as vi... rito ur spookin me
I wouldn't worry for too long about the first one if Riot does the diver update next. The second one is a bit more concerning, but with the update, there should be clearer strengths and weaknesses (unlike now where their strengths and weakness are all over the place), so we will have to see when it happens.
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I wouldn't worry for too long about the first one if Riot does the diver update next. The second one is a bit more concerning, but with the update, there should be clearer strengths and weaknesses (unlike now where their strengths and weakness are all over the place), so we will have to see when it happens.
I'm really hoping for the diver rework ive been playing aatrox since 2013 and id love to see changes for him Also about there being more obvious strength and weakness I cant agree more and id be good for the diver class as a whole. well, I guess diver items might be unbalanced with the way are tanks tho...
I think Diver items will have to be restricted to melee only or at least have some kind of effect that will force the user to stay too close to the target, making it dangerous for ranged champs to use (though there will be those few who could still possibly abuse that
). It will likely boil down to "how can these items give good stats in a way that will keep other champs from wanting them". If Riot can't do that, then they will have to make them melee only and hope for the best.
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I think Diver items will have to be restricted to melee only or at least have some kind of effect that will force the user to stay too close to the target, making it dangerous for ranged champs to use (though there will be those few who could still possibly abuse that
). It will likely boil down to "how can these items give good stats in a way that will keep other champs from wanting them". If Riot can't do that, then they will have to make them melee only and hope for the best.
optimally making the diver items only for divers would be best but sadly riot wants to keep the all items buyable to as many as champs as possible. So in theory some tanks would abuse whatever items riot makes especially hard cc tanks.
The character creation team, balance team, rework team, and everyone-else-team never seem to be in sync or even on the same page when things get released.
Camille is gonna be broke as a commercial Kit-kat bar. I don't think I'll have seen anything as broke since the perma-banned unholy trinity back in the end of S3. If she is somehow balanced I think my head will explode from the illogical reality of it.
The character creation team, balance team, rework team, and everyone-else-team never seem to be in sync or even on the same page when things get released.
Huh? Do you know just how much coordination goes into making a champ? A single champ could have had well over 100 people work on it for an extended period of time, from artists, programmers, designers, testers, writers, musicians........the list goes on.
Will she a be bit strong when she comes out? I can see it, but it's not something we haven't seen before. Besides, the past few champs released have actually been underpowered on release. So, Riot is taking a small step in the other direction to see if it works.
Gotta agree, but this is coming from the company that hired CertainlyT.
The units must have all gotten co-ordinated and said "This champion will most likely be broken as crap on release" and T just smile and said "Screw the fans, powercreep baby! WOOOOOOOOO!"
Gotta agree, but this is coming from the company that hired CertainlyT.
The units must have all gotten co-ordinated and said "This champion will most likely be broken as crap on release" and T just smile and said "Screw the fans, powercreep baby! WOOOOOOOOO!"
Funny you mention him. That's who has been redesigning Warwick. This is why we haven't had any new cancer for the last 6 months.
His champs were not the only ones to be overpowered on release. In fact, almost all champs released during 2013 and 14 were overpowered on release, and only 2 of them came from CertainlyT.
What I find interesting though, is that you people like to complain about CertainlyT because of Yasuo and Thresh (and sometimes Darius and Zyra). Yet, I find it funny that no one ever takes a stab at groovylord (a.k.a. gypsylord), of whose champs have not only been overpowered on release, but have also been the kings and queens of their respective roles in the past for an extended period of time. Yeah, remember tank Ekko? Thank groovy for that.
I've tried her on the pbe she is really meh vs alot of top lanes so much people have been trying her in the jungle to kinda ok results
I main tanks and I feel that way about seeing Camille.
More evidence that tanks are falling out of the meta, first nobody wants to pick them, then Riot only wants to make AD fighter/skirmisher toplaners.