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Sweetiex33 votes

Stay away from my ranked games you "first time x champion" enabler!

Icestar118656 votes

You should never play first time in ranked. But normals... IDK why people rage when someone just wants to learn.

IcyPepper3 votes

Same reason people play Teemo.

Rew7112 votes

as a ADC

Malicious Fury1 votes

"Dude I have a BotRK. It's OP!" kappa

LordGeovanni1 votes

versus tanks but the 4 man ranged meta never stopped it just had a time where tanks got subbed in some games and then those guys cried 'tank meta because 1 person was slighty harder to kill than the others

blueberrypancake10 votes

I played ADC Kennen a few days ago and my support Blitz refused to support for me so he went top with Fiora

The funny thing is they both lost to a Darius

"I hope you liked top lane Blitz"

Then just yesterday I played Vi mid (first time) and actually was able to Solo kill a Yasuo thanks to her W

My team was like "Holy shit you won a 1v1 versus Yasuo?"

Then again I could really only absorb assists but I did make the game winning play when their Yasuo was out of position I one shoted him (my build was weird because I did like a Talon build with a BotRK in it so I could proc W more) and we charged down mid

I still don't understand why people rage when someone picks something off-meta in normals

Note: Kennen in genral is my main who I do enjoy playing ADC in norms

Autrah Fang4 votes

{quoted} My team was like "Holy shit you won a 1v1 versus Yasuo?"

i win 1v1 against Yasuo on Vi all the time :| is it really that special? ._. he dies pretty easily, especially after lvl 6

unless it's more of a "omg you won 1v1 against a broken champion" type thing >_>

Handin Out Naps4 votes

Yasuo loses vs a lot of melee bruisers/assassins. Take something that can actually duel mid lane and Yasuo gets fucked.

Lauchmelder4 votes

Yasuo even loses to AS Braum, he is nowhere as OP as people make him look like.

LordGeovanni1 votes

he isnt op ranged guys just dont like their skills blocked they want to sit back in safety and collect kills like its nobody's business besides his crit but then the whole crit mechanic is broken

Hyrum Graff3 votes

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Yasuo even loses to AS Braum, he is nowhere as OP as people make him look like.

AS Braum is hella OP, don't tell people secret freelo kappa

Icestar11861 votes

He actually is though. He can win lane against a Fiora, IIRC.

Scribbs1 votes

When I go Zac mid with a triforce or Nocturne mid with full lifesteal build...

It actually works quite well.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

Did I just hear Trinity Force Shrek?

ElieeCH2 votes

I legit remember this game. I was the support playing vs you and we asked blitz why he didn't want to support and he was like kennen is not an adc, I only follow the meta .. My whole team was like what the actual f*. Plus you were actually doing great eventhough you lost lane a bit but I bet if this blitz was supporting you, you would've actually won 100%. He is so crazy xD

Mallory3301 votes

You've never played Vi, I just checked your match history.

sreggad1 votes

I don't think the first time playing a champion should even be in normals. I'm not saying you should play "X games against AI" before going to normals but you should at least play one game against AI just to get a feel for what the champion does. Especially on more mechanically complicated champions.

Gorgannan3 votes

I disagree. Unless it's a brand new champion, you should have a clue how to play them if you've seen them before. You're not gonna learn anything from bots.

sreggad1 votes

Playing against a champion doesn't show you how to play the champion. It shows you what the champion is doing. A good example of the difference between playing a champion and watching a champion is Rumbles ult. Karthus wall. You see it be places but you don't see how it gets placed the way it set itself up. Playing against the AI lets you get comfortable with using the champions abilities. Which is vital to playing the champion right. If you don't know how to use the abilities and your not playing against an actual opponent your not gonna have the time to get comfortable with them. due to you having to split your attention among too many things as is.

Gorgannan2 votes

If you have played more than 100 games, you should pretty much be able to use any ability after the first time.

sreggad2 votes

by that logic. It being a freshly released champion won't matter. That logic is saying all abilities are fundamentally the same. However that isn't true. Utilizing Lulu's help, pixie to increase the range of your glitterlance isn't learned through playing other champions or playing against lulu. The play is known and you may have an idea but that doesn't mean you can do it successfully if you haven't done it before. Adding the stress of needing to learn the mechanics of a champion on top of the stresses of playing the game against people makes you fail harder than learning the mechanics in a bubble and utilizing them against players.

Closest thing to the help, pixie glitterlance is the zed shadow and shuriken. however that's still not the same due to the fact that the shurikens come from a stationary shadow not a moving ally or minion.

Gorgannan1 votes

Again, if you can't learn how that interaction works after 2-3 casts, you should be playing EXCLUSIVELY bots.

There are VERY few abilities that are difficult to use after you see what it does.

Ekko W, the shadow from Zed's ult, and MAYBE Bard ult, but even that one is arguable.

Icestar11861 votes

Well, the trick is to use Bard's ult WELL.

Scribbs1 votes

Does anyone feel like new characters' ults are becoming more and more situational?

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

It depends on mechanical difficulty a lot. I mean I think the first time I played Maokai was in ranked and I did fine that game. I did really well in lane and brought a lot of utility to the team. He's basically point and click so if you know the skills it's just learning timing (like knowing in my first game that when I tower dove w/ jungle I started w/ aggro and used knock up and slow but saved my stun till their dash bc it closes the gap, stuns them, and most importantly resets tower aggro). Bots doesn't really matter bc if you know leveling order and have played against it a bunch you shouldn't be splitting your focus assuming it's a similar play style (Maokai is pretty similar to Malphite or Nunu in terms of wanting to tank damage and provide utility and cc to the team, and I play them a decent amount).

Icestar11861 votes

I might do one game if it's something I'm really unfamiliar with. On the other hand, though, if it's a lot like what I already play, I'll jump straight to normals.

Shyvana Bot2 votes

If you are playing a champion for the first time don't even play league. Practise with a pen and paper using your imagination. Don't even think about opening a league game with ought first mastering all the champions. This isn't a casual game you scrub.

DazedOnlooker1 votes

__I tried AP Lulu top for a few games in TB, and in one game since i heard she was viable in solo lanes still,but my jungler and other laners absolutely refused to gank my lane or help me in any way because "lulu is support you troll"..lol...where were you before the game started?..afk?...i ended up going something like 0/5 because i was getting camped by the enemy jungler, and couldn't even farm under turret, and whenever i would go into the jungler to farm up to compensate, my team got hysterical, my jungler harassed me for taking camps (even if they were the enemy camps). and flipped out on me whenever the enemy garen would TP bot, for not calling "MIA..". even though i pinged it twice. But if your not going to help me, then i'm going to try and catch up via abandoned lane minions and jungle camps, and why should i call MIA for you, when you never call MIA for anyone else? x-x.

Mordepool1 votes

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Stay away from my ranked games you "first time x champion" enabler!

Don't force someone into a role they don't want then. Talk it out find the best match for everyone s skills

Gorgannan2 votes

This happens all the time. Some people just won't do anything but mid. Sometimes it's down to 3 guys who all hate ADC. If you get stuck with a role you hate, pick someone you've played in that role. If you don't, it's basically trolling because you didn't get what you want.

Mordepool1 votes

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This happens all the time. Some people just won't do anything but mid. Sometimes it's down to 3 guys who all hate ADC. If you get stuck with a role you hate, pick someone you've played in that role. If you don't, it's basically trolling because you didn't get what you want.

I freely admit adc is my weakest role. I do however know how to play ashe sivir and tristana. I tell my jungler to camp bot or we are going to lose the game. Because it is in fact true if I gain a lead in bot which does happen its all good but if I fall behind its pretty much gg

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Yeah, but it's also proficiency. You should have SOMETHING you can play in every role if forced, but support and 2-3 others are the only things you really need to have champs strong in that role if you want to climb. I generally don't ADC but if I have to I play Heimer bot bc he pushes and if we can get ahead and early baron w/ him we can close out mid game and win before I get out scaled, which is a much better chance to win than if I play a traditional ADC. It happens so infrequently it doesn't hurt my climb really and I'm higher ranked than like 70% of the server w/out playing ADC since I was mid/low silver so it isn't really a HAVE to play sort of thing. (Yeah you shouldn't play something you don't know in an off role though bc if you don't know how to do that role for shit you need every advantage you can get)

LordGeovanni1 votes

and if you think you can do better in that the person wants and other roles are taken you rforceing yourself into a role you dont want

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Will do, I'll play a bots game first so I can get a feel for the range of the skills before I go into ranked. You gotta know how far your skills go so you can trade well.

Tilomentry18 votes

Nah, I was a challenjour Kindred player on my first game with her. The only reason I went 2/7 with her is because my team fed cause they're nubs.

PureCancer3 votes

Challenger*

Laughing Fish22 votes

https://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gif?noredirect Granted it wasn't that funny of a joke, but still.

Bouffon dAnglais8 votes

shut noob i main kindred since season 2

Dr Poro2 votes

I main him since release. Except first week, since I'm not gonna buy a champ for 7800 IP.

IcyPepper9 votes

plays Riven top for the first time Friends: ... Please don't feed plays Cho top for the first time Friends: YAY YOU'RE NOT FEEDING

I think my friends are trying to tell me something.

Bouffon dAnglais7 votes

Haha, silly you. You don't have any friends.

neither do I... le sob

Celeste Benal6 votes

Get this a lot in All for One.

Random player: "You suck ass, noob." ME: "First time Xerath. What did you expect?"

Chatillon3 votes

Dude, why the fuck arent you using abilites -Other Jayce

I thought thats what pressing the buttons does... -me jayce

Omfg nub top going roam - other jayce

Mmk - me jayce

San5San6 votes

Play bots with a new champ first. Please.

RISE Shlack1234 votes

Bots =/= People

Edit: You should learn the absolute basics about a champ against bots, but bots will not make you any better at your champ after 2-3 bot games. At that point, the AI is no longer challenging and you need real opponents of equal or greater skill to play against in order to improve.

Vincent Lucius4 votes

It's mainly so that you can learn how they handle. The basics of their kits, how the auto attacks feel, whether you can induce insanity in opponents with a laugh spam, etc.

Ariel the Cruel5 votes

1st time Syndra (free week). Enemy team: Yasuo, Master Yi, Irelia.

2ed game: Zed, Braum, Fiddlesticks.

F.M.L.

Blue Moon Wolf4 votes

Had that happen the first time I played Kindred. this guy playing Ekko (his mastery lvl is 5 with him btw) saw I picked kindred and had summoner 11 equipped, so he equips summoner 11 as well. half the match in while he kept taking from all the blue buffs (even when he just got one from the other camp -__-) he says "I can't tell if the champ is bad or if your bad". Gee, maybe I'd do better if there wasn't a prick with a mastered champ taking half the farm and killing my marked targets!

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