Champ Select: "You banned my champ! Im int'ing!"

I honestly don't care about the risk. It's not like my declared pick hasn't been banned before and I acted like a spoiled brat. They are still responsible for their behavior, whether they are happy about it or not. If they choose to troll, that's their choice and every choice has consequences.

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ok I'll answer this a third time, but to everyone else who says the same damn thing as everyone else, this is your answer.

1. Consequences don't do anything for your MMR. So this argument seems ridiculous to me. Would you not care that someone murdered your dog because they had a pay a fine? It isn't connected. And I don't know if you don't value your time, but I certainly do. Between what I need to accomplish in a day, the dodges, the remakes, the trolls...punishment doesn't matter to me. If I knew this guy was going to be a total %%%%, I'd have practiced guitar, or tried to learn Spanish, or gone to the gym. I don't advance in any skill because he was punished.

This position is illogical.

Here's the deal: I don't give a flying fuck about my rank. 1 loss doesn't mean a thing to me. My MMR decreases from that loss, big deal. At least I am not a manchild that throws a temper tantrum when I can't play the champion I wanted to play. I can get that MMR back in no time. Long term my reports just contribute to a less toxic environment.

If anything: Thinking that 1 guy trolling because his champion was banned will completely ruin your progress is completely illogical. It doesn't matter. What is 1 toxic idiot gonna do to you long term? Exactly, as much as that boosted bonobo did to your end of season rank while he was on your team during placements.

2. And I don't know how else I can say this, if you ban their champ, the likelihood the game goes poorly increases. If someone can explain what they're not understanding about that I'd appreciate it.

As I established in position 1, punishment has no bearing on me so it isn't something that factors in. What I'm attempting to do is prevent tragedy by any means necessary to climb in ranks. Now, I'm doing this as well for bad connections, uninformed players, people who chose to be counter picked, but trolling has it's options as well.

To put this another way, would you do something that increased the chances of your allies have a bad wifi signal?

Would you select a team full of mastery 4 champs? Or a team full of champs with no mastery?

The point here, again, is risk mitigation. None of the options above guarantee you a good game. But it reduces the opportunity for failure. This is the basis of good investment. You aren't investing your money, but you are investing your time.

This entire second point comes down to 1 thing (well 2 things actually, 1. it's an opinion of yours, and 2.): "I want to get to an as high as possible rank with the least amount of time invested." This isn't how you should see the game. Investing time is what makes you good. What the hell does it mean to me if I got carried straight up to plat 3 when I can't even hold out on my own.

This is still a bloody game. You should have fun playing the game, be it ranked or normals. If you only play to win and gain elo then I'm inclined to say that you're probably more frustrated by everything that doesn't go your way than someone that plays for fun, someone that wants to improve in something he or she has fun in. This is the type of mindset that makes you think: "Oh my god, my jungler is feeding again" instead of asking yourself if you had the chance to save him from that invade. This won't help you to improve.

3. 9 times out of 10 I encounter people banning allied declarations on the grounds of ideology. I believe Pyke/Zoe/Yas are bullshit champs. There isn't a good reason for it. And this is even more true in the modern system. Because you're likely to have both teams banning an OP champ, the likelihood of a player making it through the ban phase without having said champ banned is slim.

That is not our problem though. Riot has to do something about those champions. Yasuos banrate is so high not because he's overpowered, his banrate is so high because his entire kit is bullshit to deal with. Zoe is banned because she doesn't need to hit shit and still kill you.

I banned Yasuo and you're gonna troll because of that? Well sucks for you, cause I won't get myself tilted just because you wanting that champion made it possible for the enemy to get him in the first place. Believe it or not but I trust myself more than I trust a random guy I just met on the internet. If you're gonna troll the game I don't mind. It's your MMR as well. At least I know that I'll be climbing in the long run simply because I don't start trolling if I can't get the champion I want.

Trying to avoid conflicts is great and all. More people should do this. But if "avoiding conflicts" means licking someones boots then no thank you. Ban the champion I prepicked out of spite if you want, I've got an arsenal of different champions I can play. Even IF I'd be a pure onetrick I'd have the basic human decency to not be a dick to my teammates because my main got banned.

Not reporting him just ends up with this guy doing it over and over and over and over and over again. This is gonna come back to bite you at the higher ranks, when you get the same people multiple times a day. You accidentally banned Yasuo that one time so you got put on Yassuos int-list.

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Well I'd disagree that you have to benefit everyone. For one thing that's impossible, and rejecting a solution that protects 95% of player is stupid.

What I mean is, you can't force a change in something that any significant portion of the population disagrees with you about. Find a way that supports both sides of the argument, a solution that mitigates conflicts and solves more problems than it creates.

But more importantly I've laid out the scenario here. The problem riot only addresses the problem once it's become a problem. That's like asking what rights should we give prisoners. No, do what you can to prevent the need for crime. Until you do that, nothing done after the fact matters.

Wait, so if we haven't sufficiently prevented crime yet and someone commits a crime, they shouldn't be punished for it? That doesn't make sense. It's still a crime.

I've mentioned in a previous post in this thread (I thought to you) how Ranked should be changed from normals. That would reduce substantial amounts of the problems the game currently faces.

I do not recall this. What do you mean by changing Ranked from Normals? What would change about it?

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you make a remark about how social media has shown they have no spine and how riot joins their ranks cuz banning a pick intent isn't bannable/reportable.

Tell me when do you pick your champion on Facebook? or on twitter? or maybe on instagram?

I'l give you a hint: you don't.

so again, why are social media relevant to this topic?