Yeah too bad counter jungling gives like zero exp for a buff steal now a days. You don't even get level 3 from triple buffing unless you take small golems from 2 of those 3 camps Kind of dumb.
If you're goal is to constantly counter jungle, scavenging smite gives you more xp and gold if you steel a buff. It's really strong on shaco, since he's pretty much the strongest counter jungler atm, but its understandable to go for other smites, since they seem more useful.
and plus taking scavenging smite is basically the same thing as grabbing a big sign that says "HEY LOOK AT ME, I AM GOING TO COUNTERJUNGLE YOU!"
So is picking Shaco and Nunu, and any other jungler that excels at counter jungling.
When the enemy jungler picks Shaco, I pray my bot lane doesn't overextend for the classic level 2-3 gank.
in what elo is that actually viable? the white/purple smite I mean.
Purple smite is viable for all elos if you're going for a farming jungler
White in general is really shitty, so hardly any. Purple is and always has been strong in every elo.
The point of modern counterjungling is to kill the whole camp and get the timer
As a nunu main i can vouch for counter jungling being weak.
That's why you go for the counter-junglering, and just sit in their jungle and kill their jungler every time he comes in.
That's why you go for the counter-junglering, and just sit in their jungle and kill their jungler every time he comes in.
To do that you would want challenging smite rather than scavenging. And teams catch on to that and will come to help and kill you instead. It's not that counter jungling is a bad strat, its just weak compared to afk farming or providing lots of lane pressure. The junglers in the current meta don't rely on buffs to be successful, they just rely on soaking up damage and providing cc in the late game.
As a nunu main i can vouch for counter jungling being weak.
Until you run into Drag, smite it when the enemy jg is doing it, then when they're laughing about how you didn't steal it with smite, you last second Q it and run away taunting them.
Until you run into Drag, smite it when the enemy jg is doing it, then when they're laughing about how you didn't steal it with smite, you last second Q it and run away taunting them.
I'm want to get nunu bot just so i can spam the laugh after situations like this.
But... he didn't explode.