"Hey, want blue?"
"Uhh... No?"
"Haha, too bad, taking it anyways."
"..."
This situation is completely inaccurate, the laner already took the buff
Yea, the support
Hey supports still need love
I like to steal the enemy's blue if our mid laner is someone like Zed and we won a fight in their jungle. I'll get it low as Sona or Veigar or Zyra, only to have our jungler come and smite it last second.
The worst part is that they already have blue.
Every midlaner needs the buff. I am taking it. No questions allowed.
I mean THERE was the 15% ap buff
Mana regen
*cough cough

Zed has no mana. The buff's far more important on Vi.
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Zed has no mana. The buff's far more important on Vi.
Blue buff does increase energy regeneration.
As if energy wasn't completely back up before you could say "Teemo"!
######I play Shen sometimes, I know the actual speed energy regenerates and I'm obviously over exaggerating.
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As if energy wasn't completely back up before you could say "Teemo"!
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I play Shen sometimes, I know the actual speed energy regenerates and I'm obviously over exaggerating.
I could never utter that name. Does that mean my energy doesn't replenish?
if an
is executed somehow, but nobody was around to see it, is he still feeding?
People seem to forget that Dragon and Baron want nothing to do with his stupid groves and can execute him.
Also minions and towers if he's just an idiot.
thats why i was like somehow, cause he'd have to REALLY go out of his way to get executed.
He has no mana, that's why he needs blue
The only real benefit that's lost on Zed is the +AP.
Ap was removed from blue in last patch.
I want it
"Get in line, I called it first."
I deserve it (more than you do) (you feeding trash)
ftfy
"I don't usually build CDR but want more dashes"
That feels so wrong. Then again, you can build Triforce for Yasuo despite the CDR being useful only on W and R which are pretty situational.
can't we all just share
May I please have blue
Fuck you
T.T
You know how I jungle?
I farm well and forget to ever gank or counterjungle.
I just forget that I can counterjungle.
And gank...I'm not ganking if my laner has the enemy heavily pushed damn it.
I'm sometimes a bit too fixiated on counterjungling and more often than not end up getting caught.
It's why I avoid counter jungling. I'm playing a tank that doesn't duel well and I don't want to get caught and killed.
Heck, I can't even counterjungle with duelers like Yi and Jax.
Ugh I hate people who counter jungle, get caught 2v1 despite the multiple danger and missing pings, then pings for help in your lane despite being pushed in and too low on mana except for one ability.
I tip my hat to people who don't counter jungle if they play immobile tanks
Well I never gank either so save the hat tipping for someone else.
I play khazix thats usually not a problem if they find me. My hop and ult gets me out of most collapses flash gets me out of the rest.
I always forget to gank but counterjungling is always a all time thing for me. If I know the enemy jungler's position and I am on the opposite side of the map then I will take that side. Don't try this though if you are even in power with the jungler or dont have good map awarness of your jungle because most junglers will try to get revenge to compensate for lost gold and xp. Saddest thing is when I think things through and look at LoL as a chess game from afar I am pretty good, but when I get into the game that tends to fly out the window and I play it like you would any FPS.
God i miss this show. Too bad they destroyed it with Chloe and Sparky
How I jungle is checking off the lanes I dont have to gank. No leash, that means no gank for the lane that was supposed to leash. Don't help when I ping for help on a gank, no more ganks for you. Don't help when I ping for help when I get invaded, no help for whoever was close. Its just a game to see who is going to get my full attention by the end of the game. Respect the jungle or its wont respect you.
Not sure why the downvote.
News flash, laners: If you don't help me out, I won't help you out. Pretty obvious.
Its getting downvoted because people dont understand how repetitious their complaints get when you are a jungle main. The amount of times I have been flamed because I am not ganking when they are losing lane terribly. They dont seem to understand that even though it is the junglers job to help them out, it is still their fault that they lost lane due to their lack of "skill". Junglers get all the hate, but that is only because people only see their issues and don't understand the situation from the jungler's point of view. What I posted was actually the more honorable of reasons not to help my lanes, why would I help someone that fails to show me any kindness or help me when I need help? The jungler and laner relationship is give and take and so many people forget that. The reason for jungler hate is simply the league of legends mind set that it is not my fault and there has to be someone else to blame for my issues. Laners always tend to blame the jungle because they feel that the jungle could fix all their issues if they were simply good enough. Then again... supports don't get it much better.
When I jungle, which I do as often as Riot nerfs Lee Sin, I keep all the buffs to myself unless my laners are doing extremely well. 0/2 on Ahri? No you're not feeding this blue to your laner no thanks. 1/5 ADC? Nope.
I always build as if my jungler is never going to give me a buff for that exact reason.
When a Kat gets mad cuz I won't give her blue or an Ashe gets mad when I won't give her red, I cringe.
Hard.
to be fair Ashe uses red buff a lot better than many junglers. Large auto range lets her keep the DoT on for a long time even if the slow's not that useful.
Katarina doesn't even get AP any more but that 10% is cool I guess?
To be fair, thinking a small DoT that is applied the same way by every character outweighs the free sticking power/kiting power given to a different champion is... silly... to say the least.
Maybe when a stack was applied as an on-hit effect with every autoattack red buff could be justified on Ashe because of her generally higher attack speed (being an ADC and all), but now you literally would be better off giving your soraka support red buff than an Ashe.
Nope. Ashe has a higher auto range than Soraka and tends to position herself closer to the enemy tanks than Soraka, therefore it's better on Ashe considering the DoT, and the slow doesn't help either as Soraka wants to use Q's stronger slow. Only the health regeneration is good on Soraka (but then again, Q).
Ability based champions can find times when the DoT wears off and they're not auto attacking anyone
Melee champions have more times when everyone is out of auto range and therefore uses the DoT less
And fun fact: Ashe is infinitely more likely to build Runaan's hurricane than Vi
Another fun fact: regardless of who gets red buff, Ashe's slow still takes priority even if she's not the one with the buff
Soraka having a slow on autoattacks allows consistent slow chaining, and Ashe doesn't have high enough attack range to justify her ACTUALLY reapplying the DoT enough to justify it over giving a fighter (or, like I said, literally any other champion), a truedamage DoT, slow, and health regen.
In THEORY, if Ashe was PERMANENTLY attacking someone while she had red, and there was never a single teamfight, and literally nobody ever got caught out by your jungler, Ashe would use red better.
Other than that, the only thing that comes close to being remotely plausible as a reason to give it to her is "she might have Runaan's". Literally everything else in defense of giving Ashe red is negated by either A) "There just outright isn't a situation where she's using her range advantage so 100% consistently that it matters more than a melee champion to have a DoT", or B) "The sticking power of the slow (and peeling power) are better on a jungler than wasting it on a champion who has both those things built into her kit"
What Ashe doesn't build runaans? Her kit is very well designed for it. Having her slows go from 1 target to 3 targets and the fact that she gets critical strike damage and chance built in her most common builds makes it a very strong item on her. The red buff dot on three targets is pretty strong. Her range, aa speed, and the fact that anybody that knows how to build her is getting runaan's 2 or 3 makes her a very good champion to hold red buff.