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Blue Moon Wolf14 votes

before worlds: not many complaints about Gnar. Same complaints other resorceless champs get about being resourceless, but overall not too many complaints.

after Worlds: "OMG, Gnar OP! NERF HIM TILL HE HAS A LOWER WIN RATE THAN Azir/Ryze !"

LazyW0lf13 votes

I'm just upset how much damage and sticking potential Gnar has when combined with item 3022 . I have no issues with him being resourceless.

PC Trash Go Away1 votes

Yeah, Gnar in particular shouldn't combo well with any given item in this item-centric game. Assassins didn't have it easy enough, last I heard.

Pierce The Veal4 votes

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Yeah, Gnar in particular shouldn't combo well with any given item in this item-centric game. Assassins didn't have it easy enough, last I heard.

Him partnering well with it isn't the problem, but rather how he partners with it. It doesn't complement him, it just completely synergizes with him to make him have a permaslow.

You know what happened to skarner, lord of the permaslow? Yeah he doesn't have a permaslow anymore.

I gues the whole boomerang slow them from far away, close in, and never let them walk away isn't considered fun to play against. I wonder why?

Gnart Even Close3 votes

i feel your pain

dominusx1 votes

not like he can shti on most toplaners by default or that he can farm safely in matchUps that he deosnt have kill preassure or that he can go full tank and still be a MEGA ( see what i did there ? ) threat to everyone . He is just getting naged on becuz of the shitty cleaver into mallet build that you legit cant do anything unless you can straight up kill him where he stands if you use ur rotation and you dont kill him you are dead regardless of ewhat you do.

Keepe6 votes

Second Syndra gets picked, I see threads EVERYWHERE complaining about how broken she is.

Veltox1 votes

item 3116 is broken in general and she is one of it's best abusers Case closed.

Keepe1 votes

I like the Scepter as an item.

Lugg5 votes

LCS champs aren't picked because they are easy, they are picked because the are OP, broken, or both. The only time a balanced champ is picked is if the OP ones have been picked or banned or the player is incredibly good on them.

Vistha Kai1 votes

They are picked because they are necessary for whatever teamcomp a team is using or whatever would normally dumpster that champion isn't in the LCS meta..

Lugg1 votes

I think that they are picked because they are OP/broken and then the team comp is built around that.

There are of course exceptions, but that is pretty much the rule.

Wolfeur3 votes

Just realized that the upvote breaks into smaller upvotes

LoL Ergo Urgot3 votes

Lol Fist got triggered.

ChaoticPinecone3 votes

Well, to be fair the LCS/Worlds teams use the best champions to get the win. They arent going to choose a "well balanced" champion unless they are forced to.

And a lot of times the champion is/was always strong. Its just that getting played by the pros make them popular and force them into the limelight. Its hard to complain about Top-Kennan when you face him 1/100 games. Its different if he is in half of them. On the flipside, some champions are in the limelight due to their popularity and strength, whether or not the pros use them - Riven, Zed and Yasuo come to mind. There will always be complaints about these champions until they get dumpstered. Then there are champions that are strong, arent played too much, and not used in the pros (Eve, Pantheon, Fiddle). The complains about these champions are far rarer.

Romtheguy1 votes

Let us not forget Karma, who was powerful for bloody ages and was buffed at least twice before Lulu got nerfed, which forced Karma to be picked up for a similar niche. I'd say that she was in the last category you wrote down.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Varus and Vlad mid.

I'd hardly call them "the best champions to get the win".

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

Not in solo queue, no.

But champions unlock higher strengths in competitive (but also have their weaknesses showcased that much harder). Varus is one of the best siege/poke champions in the game, especially midgame at 3 items - pair him with a Cait, Ezreal, or Jhin and you have a really nice poke comp. In competitive you dont have the problem of "We have 2 sieging champions but no disengage" or "We have 2 poke champs but Malphite keeps initating before we get any poke off". Vlad is probably more about the current Meta - he does well into Syndra by rushing early MR, and on top of that you can mitigate a lot of her ult damage with your pool (plus he does well again 2-3 AP comps cause he itemizes Spirit Visage and Abyssal so easily and early in he game).

Those two champions fall into a category i didnt mention - they are situationally strong. But because they really arent that strong outside of an well organized team, the complaints are rare. People just dont face enough good Varus or Vlad players, and when they do, they dont face them when they are surrounded by a team thats on the same page. In the rare cases that the champion's strengths are showcased in solo queue, the complaints do come in.

The Ecdysiast3 votes

Every champion is easy. They aren't designed to be difficult.

Sorakas Pantheon1 votes

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Every champion is easy. They aren't designed to be difficult.

except Ivern

The Ecdysiast1 votes

It's like the people who play this game have never played a mechanically difficult game before.

Sagan Forever2 votes

You know what they say, if the best players in the world can play a champion they must be easy to play.

Jet Sett2 votes

Remember when the juggernauts were broken and were played in the LCS? They only pick the best champs for the job, if they're pick or ban status that probably means something, and it's also clear that Rylai's is broken on some champs as well.

SlntReaper2 votes

When people say they will main Talon because he looks like an AC char.

dominusx1 votes

i got dragonblade skin since it's release yeh i only play him for the skin hehe

łnśane2 votes

#stopEkkohate2016

CookyPrince3 votes

tankko

Ralanr1 votes

And now we return to our regularly scheduled Ekko circle jerk.

Because fuck Tankko.

BoilTheOil2 votes

Syndra

Vistha Kai2 votes

Funny how nobody gave a fuck about Syndra for the past 4 years, until she was picked in the LCS.

F1eshandB1ood2 votes

Yeah but Alistar

reaperteaser2 votes

dont you just hate it when your meme thread starts up a serious discussion.

TheTarians1 votes

Rumble I know that feel all too well...

JDB8eoX8x01 votes

But we can agree that regardless of whether she's been played at Worlds or not, Syndra is out of control and needs some huge nerfs on her ult... right? It can't be just me who's against a medium range one-shot ultimate, right??

AxemanE 1 votes

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Enlegacy1 votes

Jokes on you, they picked it and he did horribly so they will not pick him again for a while! (Splyce vs RNG OR SSG, I forgot which)

Curse1 votes

mhmm

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