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Zerictm15 votes

Garen item 3070

Arcus Diabolus11 votes

Meanwhile, Riven, Talon and Darius cries in a corner.

LaserDeathBlade11 votes

At least Riven had her moment of glory when she could use item 3157 to Wind Slash twice

CubedJustice6 votes

Everybody can be Ap with Luden's Echo.

NinjaFifer5 votes

And Lich Bane and Nashor's! They all give AP ratios!

YOU BEEN WARNED2 votes

item 3146

NinjaFifer1 votes

I actually never realized that it gave a 40% AP nuke. I always just thought it was like Cutlass and dealt flat damage. No wonder that Katarina rushed it in my last game...

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

It's an old Katarina build before they realized the power of DFG and now it's replacement Luden's. Her ult has a great AD scaling to use it too.

Jax Akali Mordekaiser are the most people who build this, Jax usually drops it for item 3153.

It's pretty darn expensive for what it does to be honest.

Captain Aishi5 votes

Zhonyas hourglass is hilariously good on darius for one thing, you can't die while casting ult if you zhonyas at the start of the cast, it will go through while you're in stasis :D

Vistha Kai2 votes

That... sounds like a great strategy.

NinjaFifer9 votes

AP Tryn was a nightmare to lane against. Full heals and instant wave clear, but no teamfight whatsoever. He wasn't good, but he could push lanes and take towers like a monster. Since he forced one person to babysit whatever lane he was in, he just made that one person as useless as he was.

AP Yi was even worse, since he actually could teamfight with those Q resets and total invulnerability while Meditating.

AP Gangplank was just trolly. Basically get a kill on a single squishy every time your ult was up with a little team coordination.

AP Warwick was sort of viable. Nashor's made his ult hit like a truck, and Hungering Strike was a 100% AP nuke + 80% AP self heal on a short cooldown. You still see them in ARAM all the time.

AP/Pen Mundo is still totally a thing. 40% current-health-damage Cleavers for days. (after Liandry's)

AP Ezreal hurts like a truck past the 20 minute mark, but has a terrible time getting there. I still try to pull him out every so often.

AP Garen was just absolutely friggin hilarious, but disappeared with the removal of DFG.

AP Xin Zhao is still a thing on occasion. So much heals, and Nashor's + natural AS steroid meant massive sustained damage.

AP Kog has made a comback with the introduction of Luden's Echo. Plays like Azir: pretty massive burst potential + stupid damage on AA's. Makes up for the safety of the shield+dash and ult wall with siege potential.

AP Miss Fortune is exactly like playing a mage. Drop some AOE's and run away.

I saw someone try a glass cannon AP Rek'Sai. The 100% AP ratio on the burrowed shot was funny, but just kind of pathetic as the game went on. I was playing normal bruiser Rek'Sai that game, and was actually capable of doing things in teamfights.

AP Rengar was ungodly amounts of stupid. AOE instant death on a 10 second cooldown. This was back before the ult rework, so every time it was up, you could stealth to an enemy, then double shout and delete them.

AP Tryst was viable with the right teamcomp. Past the 25-30 minute mark, her jump+ult just absolutely deleted one person, then the resets started.

AP Varus is still a thing, and makes a wonderful mage. Try it out sometime.

That's all the ones I actually remember being a thing. Some were hilarious, some were game breaking. You can theory craft more of them, but these are the ones I have personal experience with.

Tis a nice day1 votes

Remember when AP teemo was considered a troll move?

NinjaFifer1 votes

Actually no. I have always known Teemo to be AP. When was AD Teemo a thing? What did people see in it? (aside from abusing the blind) I've been around since S1 (off and on) and have only seen it once or twice, and fail every time.

Dr Poro5 votes

In season 1 everyone played AD because 100% ad scaling on auto attacks just seemed to be so strong. Most people didn't figure out yet how to use mages (poking them until they're low and then burst) as they always went all in on eachother. AD Annie was one of the most popular and strongest champs.

We all laugh at that and think "how can you be so stupid?" but it was a brand new game and most people never played anything like it.

Arveanor3 votes

I just want to sit by the fire and listen to you tell stories of the good old days.

I Main Swain2 votes

ive heard stories of the original tf when his current ult was his e on a 35 s cd and it was global. and when teemo's shrooms stacked damage.

Arveanor1 votes

W-w-what was tf's old ult :O

The Soulforged2 votes

Revealed globally, and slowed everyone on the enemy team.

Edit: blue card also reset pick a card, so you could chain them infinitely.

WolfBV1 votes

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AP Tryn was a nightmare to lane against. Full heals and instant wave clear, but no teamfight whatsoever. He wasn't good, but he could push lanes and take towers like a monster. Since he forced one person to babysit whatever lane he was in, he just made that one person as useless as he was.

AP Yi was even worse, since he actually could teamfight with those Q resets and total invulnerability while Meditating.

AP Gangplank was just trolly. Basically get a kill on a single squishy every time your ult was up with a little team coordination.

AP Warwick was sort of viable. Nashor's made his ult hit like a truck, and Hungering Strike was a 100% AP nuke + 80% AP self heal on a short cooldown. You still see them in ARAM all the time.

AP/Pen Mundo is still totally a thing. 40% current-health-damage Cleavers for days.

AP Ezreal hurts like a truck past the 20 minute mark, but has a terrible time getting there. I still try to pull him out every so often.

AP Garen was just absolutely friggin hilarious, but disappeared with the removal of DFG.

AP Xin Zhao is still a thing on occasion. So much heals, and Nashor's + natural AS steroid meant massive sustained damage.

AP Kog has made a comback with the introduction of Luden's Echo. Plays like Azir: pretty massive burst potential + stupid damage on AA's. Makes up for the safety of the shield+dash and ult wall with siege potential.

AP Miss Fortune is exactly like playing a mage. Drop some AOE's and run away.

I saw someone try a glass cannon AP Rek'Sai. The 100% AP ratio on the burrowed shot was funny, but just kind of pathetic as the game went on. I was playing normal bruiser Rek'Sai that game, and was actually capable of doing things in teamfights.

AP Rengar was ungodly amounts of stupid. AOE instant death on a 10 second cooldown. This was back before the ult rework, so every time it was up, you could stealth to an enemy, then double shout and delete them.

AP Tryst was viable with the right teamcomp. Past the 25-30 minute mark, her jump+ult just absolutely deleted one person, then the resets started.

AP Varus is still a thing, and makes a wonderful mage. Try it out sometime.

That's all the ones I actually remember being a thing. Some were hilarious, some were game breaking. You can theory craft more of them, but these are the ones I have personal experience with.

AP Ezreal still a squishy fuck though.

Jeddy0172 votes

So is AD Ezreal.

WolfBV1 votes

AD Ezreal still gets some hp from trinity force and usually gets lifesteal though.

IcyPepper5 votes

MissFortune :3

Laughing Fish7 votes

AP MF is awesome. So much better than AD.

Lanayurian5 votes

Yasuo Just because his E is like the only ability that scales with AP doesn't mean AP Yasuo isn't viable.

Biffolo2 votes

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Yasuo Just because his E is like the only ability that scales with AP doesn't mean AP Yasuo isn't viable.

Ap yasuo isn't viable though

Bisexual Kindred5 votes

Ap aatroxx!! <3

DrCyanide4 votes

Ezreal is my mid lane mage of choice right now. 121 games played as AP Ezreal to date, averaging a 53% win rate over all of them.

I suppose Riot does label him as a secondary Mage though, so it's not the most out there build.

NinjaFifer4 votes

The problem I have with bringing AP Ez out is that you give up the Mage's secondary job of waveclear. Without using his ult, AP Ez clears waves worse than most supports. His teamfight is pretty awesome, but I really only try to use him when we have a Sivir or Varus as an ADC. You know, someone who can take up the waveclear mantle.

B1naryB0t4 votes

RIP Deathfire Garen

The Soulforged1 votes

I pray to my god Ouroboro!

ChaosThief3 votes

Varus

...I suck at it, but some people have made it work.

Gentleman Gems3 votes

Jax Assassin is so much Fun Empower+ item 3100+ Leap Strike= Skull Kraken Fun

iLuma3 votes

AP Nasus on ARAM is Godsend.

Qarekeo2 votes

I tried AP Trynd a bit ago. Sadly enough, it didn't work... .

But! I'll be trying a new build based on the Devourer Enchantment and Wit's End to do magic damage with autoattacks that scale up as the game goes on! The attack speed from those two items alone is ridiculous, so I'm hoping to leverage that to charge up his abilities quickly and be able to build a little tanky on the side.

I think the average end-game build would be: item 3006item 3710item 3091item 3068item 3087item 3512

aaronconlin2 votes

{quoted}

I tried AP Trynd a bit ago. Sadly enough, it didn't work... .

But! I'll be trying a new build based on the Devourer Enchantment and Wit's End to do magic damage with autoattacks that scale up as the game goes on! The attack speed from those two items alone is ridiculous, so I'm hoping to leverage that to charge up his abilities quickly and be able to build a little tanky on the side.

I think the average end-game build would be: item 3006item 3710item 3091item 3068item 3087item 3512

I wouldn't get a portal, he won't have enough armor and magic resist to benefit his voidlings. Maybe a spirit visage for better heals?

Qarekeo1 votes

Ooh, thanks for the suggestion! I mostly get Zz'rot for the mixed resistances, but the buffed heals and health boost might be better for survivability. I've also considered Abyssal Scepter for the magic penetration. Thanks for the input.

Duke Anax2 votes

how about item 3020 item 3710 item 3115 item 3091 item 3068 item 3001 I thought about trying this on Yi, but it would go just as well on Tryn.

DeusVult2 votes

Garen

7ha7guy7772 votes

Sion killing your opponents with their own minions has never been easier

ShadowParker2 votes

Everyone always forgets the ap hecarim.. 100% ap ratio on ulti + 20% Ap ratio per second with W.

Demonsolder212 votes

YES A GAME OF THRONES REFERENCE GOD BLESS YOU GOOD SIR!!!!!!!!

Treyen2 votes

in this thread: bunch of people pretending "insert ad champion" build with AP is actually anything but trash tier

SH Azykan4 votes

Ezreal KogMaw Corki XinZhao Udyr Shaco all have viable AP builds right now and are "AD" champions.

Treyen1 votes

kog and corki are the only two there that have legitimate ap builds and they aren't what i would consider "AD" anyway because their ad builds tend to suck. corki more so than kog on that.

ap ez is less useful than ad in every situation, ap xin is a lane stomp gimmick, never seen ap udyr and it seems pretty useless just looking at ratios, ap shaco drops boxes and scares people away from bushes for 20 mins then gets ignored.

SH Azykan1 votes

Trick2G was playing AP Udyr a couple weeks ago. It did a lot of damage with RoA + Lich Bane + Phx stance and he got ridiculously hard to kill. I wouldnt say it is his best build but it worked nonetheless.

AP Xin is ridiculous at pushing towers. Yeah it is a lane stomp gimmick but even being a gimmick it still works pretty freaken well for split pushing.

AP Ezreal has far higher Teamfight burst. His AoE Teamfight burst actually is one of the highest in the game at full build if he lands everything in "ideal" scenarios. He just has no waveclear at all with the build other than his ult and relies on landing the skill shots on as many people as possible XD

AP Shaco is better than AD for laning. Though yeah it does fall off in comparison (but only because of AD having AS Crit and Ar.Pen to let it scale ridiculously)

One other I forgot was Jax

SlushieDee2 votes

AP Draven OP

Kappa

Hatless Casual1 votes

Every person who build AP on KogMaw or Ezreal when we hove no other AD on the team can summoner 14 in ARAM.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

AP Fiora is decent vs autoattackers. She can still oneshot people with lichbane and on-hit items.

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