
Meanwhile, Riven, Talon and Darius cries in a corner.
At least Riven had her moment of glory when she could use
to Wind Slash twice
Everybody can be Ap with Luden's Echo.
And Lich Bane and Nashor's! They all give AP ratios!

I actually never realized that it gave a 40% AP nuke. I always just thought it was like Cutlass and dealt flat damage. No wonder that Katarina rushed it in my last game...
It's an old Katarina build before they realized the power of DFG and now it's replacement Luden's. Her ult has a great AD scaling to use it too.
are the most people who build this, Jax usually drops it for
.
It's pretty darn expensive for what it does to be honest.
Zhonyas hourglass is hilariously good on darius for one thing, you can't die while casting ult if you zhonyas at the start of the cast, it will go through while you're in stasis :D
That... sounds like a great strategy.
AP Tryn was a nightmare to lane against. Full heals and instant wave clear, but no teamfight whatsoever. He wasn't good, but he could push lanes and take towers like a monster. Since he forced one person to babysit whatever lane he was in, he just made that one person as useless as he was.
AP Yi was even worse, since he actually could teamfight with those Q resets and total invulnerability while Meditating.
AP Gangplank was just trolly. Basically get a kill on a single squishy every time your ult was up with a little team coordination.
AP Warwick was sort of viable. Nashor's made his ult hit like a truck, and Hungering Strike was a 100% AP nuke + 80% AP self heal on a short cooldown. You still see them in ARAM all the time.
AP/Pen Mundo is still totally a thing. 40% current-health-damage Cleavers for days. (after Liandry's)
AP Ezreal hurts like a truck past the 20 minute mark, but has a terrible time getting there. I still try to pull him out every so often.
AP Garen was just absolutely friggin hilarious, but disappeared with the removal of DFG.
AP Xin Zhao is still a thing on occasion. So much heals, and Nashor's + natural AS steroid meant massive sustained damage.
AP Kog has made a comback with the introduction of Luden's Echo. Plays like Azir: pretty massive burst potential + stupid damage on AA's. Makes up for the safety of the shield+dash and ult wall with siege potential.
AP Miss Fortune is exactly like playing a mage. Drop some AOE's and run away.
I saw someone try a glass cannon AP Rek'Sai. The 100% AP ratio on the burrowed shot was funny, but just kind of pathetic as the game went on. I was playing normal bruiser Rek'Sai that game, and was actually capable of doing things in teamfights.
AP Rengar was ungodly amounts of stupid. AOE instant death on a 10 second cooldown. This was back before the ult rework, so every time it was up, you could stealth to an enemy, then double shout and delete them.
AP Tryst was viable with the right teamcomp. Past the 25-30 minute mark, her jump+ult just absolutely deleted one person, then the resets started.
AP Varus is still a thing, and makes a wonderful mage. Try it out sometime.
That's all the ones I actually remember being a thing. Some were hilarious, some were game breaking. You can theory craft more of them, but these are the ones I have personal experience with.
Remember when AP teemo was considered a troll move?
Actually no. I have always known Teemo to be AP. When was AD Teemo a thing? What did people see in it? (aside from abusing the blind) I've been around since S1 (off and on) and have only seen it once or twice, and fail every time.
In season 1 everyone played AD because 100% ad scaling on auto attacks just seemed to be so strong. Most people didn't figure out yet how to use mages (poking them until they're low and then burst) as they always went all in on eachother. AD Annie was one of the most popular and strongest champs.
We all laugh at that and think "how can you be so stupid?" but it was a brand new game and most people never played anything like it.
I just want to sit by the fire and listen to you tell stories of the good old days.
ive heard stories of the original tf when his current ult was his e on a 35 s cd and it was global. and when teemo's shrooms stacked damage.
W-w-what was tf's old ult :O
Revealed globally, and slowed everyone on the enemy team.
Edit: blue card also reset pick a card, so you could chain them infinitely.
AP Tryn was a nightmare to lane against. Full heals and instant wave clear, but no teamfight whatsoever. He wasn't good, but he could push lanes and take towers like a monster. Since he forced one person to babysit whatever lane he was in, he just made that one person as useless as he was.
AP Yi was even worse, since he actually could teamfight with those Q resets and total invulnerability while Meditating.
AP Gangplank was just trolly. Basically get a kill on a single squishy every time your ult was up with a little team coordination.
AP Warwick was sort of viable. Nashor's made his ult hit like a truck, and Hungering Strike was a 100% AP nuke + 80% AP self heal on a short cooldown. You still see them in ARAM all the time.
AP/Pen Mundo is still totally a thing. 40% current-health-damage Cleavers for days.
AP Ezreal hurts like a truck past the 20 minute mark, but has a terrible time getting there. I still try to pull him out every so often.
AP Garen was just absolutely friggin hilarious, but disappeared with the removal of DFG.
AP Xin Zhao is still a thing on occasion. So much heals, and Nashor's + natural AS steroid meant massive sustained damage.
AP Kog has made a comback with the introduction of Luden's Echo. Plays like Azir: pretty massive burst potential + stupid damage on AA's. Makes up for the safety of the shield+dash and ult wall with siege potential.
AP Miss Fortune is exactly like playing a mage. Drop some AOE's and run away.
I saw someone try a glass cannon AP Rek'Sai. The 100% AP ratio on the burrowed shot was funny, but just kind of pathetic as the game went on. I was playing normal bruiser Rek'Sai that game, and was actually capable of doing things in teamfights.
AP Rengar was ungodly amounts of stupid. AOE instant death on a 10 second cooldown. This was back before the ult rework, so every time it was up, you could stealth to an enemy, then double shout and delete them.
AP Tryst was viable with the right teamcomp. Past the 25-30 minute mark, her jump+ult just absolutely deleted one person, then the resets started.
AP Varus is still a thing, and makes a wonderful mage. Try it out sometime.
That's all the ones I actually remember being a thing. Some were hilarious, some were game breaking. You can theory craft more of them, but these are the ones I have personal experience with.
AP Ezreal still a squishy fuck though.
:3
AP MF is awesome. So much better than AD.
Just because his E is like the only ability that scales with AP doesn't mean AP Yasuo isn't viable.
Ap aatroxx!! <3
is my mid lane mage of choice right now. 121 games played as AP Ezreal to date, averaging a 53% win rate over all of them.
I suppose Riot does label him as a secondary Mage though, so it's not the most out there build.
The problem I have with bringing AP Ez out is that you give up the Mage's secondary job of waveclear. Without using his ult, AP Ez clears waves worse than most supports. His teamfight is pretty awesome, but I really only try to use him when we have a Sivir or Varus as an ADC. You know, someone who can take up the waveclear mantle.
RIP Deathfire Garen
I pray to my god Ouroboro!

...I suck at it, but some people have made it work.
Assassin is so much Fun
Empower+
+ Leap Strike= Skull Kraken Fun
AP
on ARAM is Godsend.
I tried AP Trynd a bit ago. Sadly enough, it didn't work... .
But! I'll be trying a new build based on the Devourer Enchantment and Wit's End to do magic damage with autoattacks that scale up as the game goes on! The attack speed from those two items alone is ridiculous, so I'm hoping to leverage that to charge up his abilities quickly and be able to build a little tanky on the side.
I think the average end-game build would be:






I tried AP Trynd a bit ago. Sadly enough, it didn't work... .
But! I'll be trying a new build based on the Devourer Enchantment and Wit's End to do magic damage with autoattacks that scale up as the game goes on! The attack speed from those two items alone is ridiculous, so I'm hoping to leverage that to charge up his abilities quickly and be able to build a little tanky on the side.
I think the average end-game build would be:
I wouldn't get a portal, he won't have enough armor and magic resist to benefit his voidlings. Maybe a spirit visage for better heals?
Ooh, thanks for the suggestion! I mostly get Zz'rot for the mixed resistances, but the buffed heals and health boost might be better for survivability. I've also considered Abyssal Scepter for the magic penetration. Thanks for the input.
how about
I thought about trying this on Yi, but it would go just as well on Tryn.

killing your opponents with their own minions has never been easier
Everyone always forgets the ap hecarim.. 100% ap ratio on ulti + 20% Ap ratio per second with W.
YES A GAME OF THRONES REFERENCE GOD BLESS YOU GOOD SIR!!!!!!!!
in this thread: bunch of people pretending "insert ad champion" build with AP is actually anything but trash tier
all have viable AP builds right now and are "AD" champions.
kog and corki are the only two there that have legitimate ap builds and they aren't what i would consider "AD" anyway because their ad builds tend to suck. corki more so than kog on that.
ap ez is less useful than ad in every situation, ap xin is a lane stomp gimmick, never seen ap udyr and it seems pretty useless just looking at ratios, ap shaco drops boxes and scares people away from bushes for 20 mins then gets ignored.
Trick2G was playing AP Udyr a couple weeks ago. It did a lot of damage with RoA + Lich Bane + Phx stance and he got ridiculously hard to kill. I wouldnt say it is his best build but it worked nonetheless.
AP Xin is ridiculous at pushing towers. Yeah it is a lane stomp gimmick but even being a gimmick it still works pretty freaken well for split pushing.
AP Ezreal has far higher Teamfight burst. His AoE Teamfight burst actually is one of the highest in the game at full build if he lands everything in "ideal" scenarios. He just has no waveclear at all with the build other than his ult and relies on landing the skill shots on as many people as possible XD
AP Shaco is better than AD for laning. Though yeah it does fall off in comparison (but only because of AD having AS Crit and Ar.Pen to let it scale ridiculously)
One other I forgot was 
AP Draven OP
Kappa
Every person who build AP on
or
when we hove no other AD on the team can
in ARAM.
AP Fiora is decent vs autoattackers. She can still oneshot people with lichbane and on-hit items.