When you keep farming the jungle after getting Sated

Laughing Fish·Sep 14, 2015·47 votes·3,021 views

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14 Comments

Slamurai JackSep 14, 201510 votes

It's ok, Shyvana doesn't need to get tanky or anything. Just item 3930 item 3153 is sufficient. Go ahead and take all my camps team.

DemacrySep 15, 20157 votes

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It's ok, doesn't need to get tanky or anything. Just is sufficient. Go ahead and take all my camps team.

The one good thing about the Juggernaut update is item 3709 item 3748 item 3190 means I can go back to playing tanky Shyv and still carry without spending the first 30 minutes blind farming. I love feeling like an unkillable dragon and Devourer/BoRK is just so bad if your team is relying on you to not die instantly in teamfights.

Aych PiiSep 15, 20151 votes

I'm glad someone else shares my devourer shyv woes.

KynamiSep 15, 20153 votes

More of an options thing really. There are certain match-ups where I'm just going to take cinderhulk and happily sit in the middle of their team... or its a rush for challenging smite and devourer while trying to keep river control via wards and counter-ganks so I can burst down something that I can't let reach my backline.

Its just that nice and super tanky doesn't work quite as well when the opposing team has 2-3 sources of BotRK or massive true damage.

DemacrySep 15, 20151 votes

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More of an options thing really. There are certain match-ups where I'm just going to take cinderhulk and happily sit in the middle of their team... or its a rush for challenging smite and devourer while trying to keep river control via wards and counter-ganks so I can burst down something that I can't let reach my backline.

Its just that nice and super tanky doesn't work quite as well when the opposing team has 2-3 sources of BotRK or massive true damage.

In my case I have an immense distrust of solo-queue-randoms and if I indulge in item 3930 item 3153 I just know I'm going to get focused in a fight and then we're doomed. I feel like in 9 out of 10 cases if you build tank/fighter and then camp BoRK users (or camp your assassin's lane) you'll have a more consistent mid/late game.

The most common BoRK users ATM are Yasuo Vayne Zed Lucian Kalista and a few other choice ADC's. Zed is pretty negligible for Shyv and if Yas is forced to engage on tanky-Shyv and you're doing your job correctly then he's focusing you and not your team. ADC's in general are hard for Shyv and you kind of have to hope your team can pick up the slack; but for the sake of the thread, now that 95% of ADC's have some form of disengage/escape chances are you'll have to spend a few moments chasing them as Shyv and I feel like you'll be more effective as the frontline that can absorb an extra 5 - 10 autos than hopefully being able to one-shot someone in the .25 second of only hard-CC Shyv has.

Not saying Sated BoRK doesn't have a place in the game or on Shyv, I just think it's in the same vein as a Shaco or Master Yi pick. High risk. You're mostly hoping that your allies aren't dumb enough or the enemy team isn't smart enough to capitalize on the build's weaknesses during champ select/the game.

Tails DollSep 15, 20152 votes

" the first 30 minutes blind farming" If you are playing shy game is over at 15 min dude.

DemacrySep 17, 20151 votes

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" the first 30 minutes blind farming" If you are playing shy game is over at 15 min dude.

Considering the fastest I've ever gotten 30 stacks on Shyv is 16 minutes while only speed farming/invading and just happened to ks a few kills and was vs an enemy jungler that just let me take every scuttler without challenge you're way overestimating your potency.

Tails DollSep 17, 20151 votes

I've seen (not done) some shyv get Dev pre 15 min, but she usually got some kills and really early drags (pre 9 min) so that might be it. It is possible, under rare circustances, but I think an average Shyv should get dev at 18 min, a good shyv 15-17, and a lucky/excellent shyv pre 15 min.