"Oh, really? Would you like to test that theory?"
"This will be quick!"
this made me cringe so hard I actually felt physical pain
This conversation sounds dirty
Ya' know, it kinda does.
Definitely a skill match-up for sure though.
Meh, I have played it plenty of times as I am an Illaoi main, and I have almost always crushed lane.
I am low elo, so I might just be playing against sucky darius players. But once you get 6 you can pretty much one shot him if you can get 4 tentacles or so.
See, here's the thing - when you main a champion, everyone else is a sucky player compared to you unless they are also on their main.
"Oh, really? Would you like to test that theory?"
I utterly destroy illaoi as darius tho. you just gotta poke with your q and then apprehend them when you know you can kill them.
She can poke with Q too, and it is harder to dodge.
Don't get me wrong, a good Darius CAN beat Illaoi, but assuming equal skill she can go tit for tat.

Ur joking right? Maybe at the end game they could but early and mid they are trash. Get dunked
you never mentioned stage of game :P and technically all of them but yas ((maybe not trundle) could 1v1 darius at lv1 (olaf q reset+passive, trundle ad steal, jax dodge so no bleed stacks, trynd 5 rng crits)
hmm true. but i doubt trynd could at 1v1. iv killed 3 trynd at lvl1 all i had 2 do was q 2 times and then force fight i not sure at which point i cant beat him cause we mostly win before it or it turns into a team fight. olaf can be a pain pre-3 and around post-16. im not really sure of jax cause the jax iv fought mostly built damage so i dodge their stun and game over for them. iv never had troble with yas cause all i have 2 do i aa his shield, q, aa+w(if he fights) or hook+aa+w+aa(if he runs) then ult, trundle is some one i cant beat beat 1v1 as dar late game if u both have ult or near minnions cause of his passive+hydra.
well but all of them outscale darius, especially Jax, Yasuo and Trundle.
well yea. because they have better lifesteal and AS. but i think i said early to mid. most of the time. i just never fought anyone other then trundle late game. i win by mid or early late. i never talked about beating them 1 on 1 late. it was about beating them 1 on 1 lvl 1
i was thinking more of a 1v1 as in your both lv1, and your both next to each other in a j4 ultimate, who would win? and i think trynd can win on the off chance that he gets a ton of crits
I've won every Darius vs Illaoi, and lost every Illaoi vs Darius I've been against
asking to 1v1 in a team game is a fundamentally stupid idea.
Did you 1v1 him though or did you puss out?
I see Monty Python, I upvote.
Come on then, fight me. I only have 4 graves ready. What's the worst that could happen?
AoE spells
Dar can't oneshot ghouls because of handle early game.
That's true enough, but you also don't have many people asking to 1v1 early game either.
Main thing is that Darius has no real easy ways to kill the ghouls and his base attack speed is really slow, meaning he is likely to have to blow a spell to get rid of the wall.
Meaning Yorick can harass him much like a ranged character from the moment he gets 4 graves up onwards. Since Dar isn't likely to make Yorick too weak to fight before Yorick hits level 2 (unless you're hit by mad cheese) so the moment ghouls appear all it takes is for Yorick to hit a flask and then Dar has to straight up run away to fight them safely.
"lol you can't 1 vs 1 me loser" Who the fuck can Mr. Raid Boss
early game croc
I didn't think about that

I cry every time
Trundle as well with the AD steal and passive healing that doesn't require any interaction between the two. And Trundle can get right inside Darius' no-no square with E and W, removing enemy healing and damage at the same time when he gets in. Essentially making Trundle one of the few melees that actually benefits from a skirmish with Darius as long as he picks fights with the bleed in mind.
This little guy... especially with a frozen mallet.
"Its only fun, when they run!" darius dosnt run so warwick is a sad doggo
which is kind of odd because warwick is probably the only champion that can out-sustain darius in a direct confrontation
though it'd be a close call every time so idk
Aatrox is pretty good at it
: what's an Aatrox?
I have no idea...for that matter, what are you? XD
just making it up, but I forgot about aatrox XD
Illaoi is another one
warwick top is actually a really good counter to darius, no joke, thats why i mentioned it, definitely not because im mastery 7 on him.
shame I don't have good internet anymore
I'd love to try it out with his new mechanics ^^
yeah, as long as you dodge his q with your q, you just auto win, you do need to be pretty aggresive early on though, later on when he gets tankier he can probably win long drawn out fights, you need sheen and tiamat early to kill him quick
probably. As a note, your name made me think "Shen Twin" would be awesome if it ever needed a replacement, though that's where it ends as I have no idea if you play shen or not ^^
play vayne and watch them cry! XD
though that is fairly sad if someone actually said that
I got challenged to a 1v1 on the howling abyss once
I thought we were just going to play fun champs...
I ended up playing against a heimerdinger...as Urgot T.T
If your only option to 1v1 a champion whose intended role is top lane is to pick something that doesn't belong at top lane, there's an issue.
Jax can 1v1 Darius at almost any point in the game. Even early, once Darius hooks you you just turn on your E, and the only bleed he can hit you with is the one on his Q. Other champs include Teemo, Pantheon, Swain, Quinn, Kayle, and Aatrox can even fight him through max stacks most of the time.
Eh, any melee dps carries will 1v1 him after a couple of items (not implying that he doesn't have items, just on equal ground). He only beats them early game. Lategame


just press R and rightclick, face tank everything he throws and still win.
vs
I've seen this matchup way too may times, usually Yas gets dumpstered for 20 minutes, then somehow later, wins every 1v1 when Darius comes back to lane to stop his splitpush. He's just a lane bully and decent teamfighter, but he is far from being the best duelist.
I was talking specifically early game
Jax will only win that half the time, and it's based solely on whether or not the Darius was stupid enough to hook first instead of waiting for Jax to initiate and do his combo after the dodge. Teemo, Swain, Quinn, and Kayle are not intended for top lane, and only go there as niche picks against opponents who can't gap close.
Aatrox is in the same boat as Jax, but has even fewer ways to counter Darius.
Pantheon is the only real counter that has a chance. The others are the top-lane rangers who specifically require you to have picked second to be able to pick.
Jax will never lose the lane if he doesn't initiate, and if he doesn't initiate he outscales Darius. Jax doesn't lose the lane "half the time", the player's stupidity does.
Swain has a 62% playrate top vs a 26% playrate mid
Quinn has a 60% playrate top, opposed to a 16% playrate adc.
Teemo has an 82% playrate top, opposed to an 8% playrate support
Kayle has a 69% playrate top opposed to a 19% playrate mid.
They're all top laners, and they have the potential do do fine vs a lot of ranged matchups because at some point of the game, they either melt everything in range (
), burst hard (
) or invalidate carries (
)