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lightdragoon8830 votes

First Blood

GG Surrender @ 20.

RookPusher2 votes

{quoted}

First Blood

GG Surrender @ 20.

Amen. You have to guess they've just lost the last 5 games. But still, its so ludicrous that it defies description.

EndlessSorcerer16 votes

Had that happen before.

I ended Xin Zhao jungle game around 15/4/X after repeatedly killing the enemy jungler during invades and ganking both top and bottom lane several times.

He still complained that I was doing nothing since I didn't gank the Fizz he kept shoving under tower as Twisted Fate.

It was honestly kinda funny since pretty much everyone else in the game backed me up when he took it to all-chat.

Jet Sett1 votes

Shoving lane was a good move, staying in his lane to try and win it by himself was not. TF can't do anything usually without a gank, which is why he pushes his lane so he can go to other lanes, rather than stay in his own. He should have covered a lane every once in awhile instead of yelling at you. Let me guess, he pushed lane, got all in'd by Fizz, spammed you for a gank, then pushed lane when he got back. How close am I?

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

Got it in one. Then he proceeded to do it 8-ish more times.

I forget exactly when, but I pretty much wrote him off and focused on snowballing everyone else. Considering how far behind he got so quickly, I figured he would still be useful if he could at least waveclear and stun someone occasionally.

Everyone else had a much better attitude and displayed more competence that game, so I figured I would help them carry us instead.

Jet Sett1 votes

Yeah you made the right call, I hope I can make those calls now that I'm starting to play jungle more often.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

If you're just learning, I do have some tips that I'd written up quite a while ago for a different thread. Hopefully, they will help somewhat.

I would suggest watching videos by high-ELO and/or professional junglers (i.e. Nightblue3, Stonewall008, TheOddOne, and foxdropLOL). They will typically provide a lot of useful tips while playing and you can often see or hear their decision process and some optimizations throughout the game.

Off the top of my head, some basic optimizations may be:

  • Use hard-CC when the monster camps are about to attack you to cancel that attack and delay their next.
  • Each of the smite buffs are quite useful in different situations. Be sure to take proper advantage of them.
    • Raptor's buff is great for ganking
    • Gromp buff provides extra damage during clears and fights, especially for champions with a lot of health
    • Krug's buff reduces the damage you take while clearing and lets champions without CC kill Scuttle Crab faster
    • Wolf buff is useful when you are being counter-jungled or invaded (or after your initial towers have fallen).
  • If you have a weak early clear, Krugs -> Raptor's -> Red Buff is probably the route that conserves the most health.
  • Kill the little Raptors and the little Krug first on single-target clearers. They deal a significant amount of damage for their health value, so you will be healthier if they die early.
  • If you think the enemy jungler will invade you early game, it can be safer to start on a buff camp rather than a little camp since you are less likely to be where they are looking.
  • Attack Speed is extremely efficient at clearing on most junglers. I'd recommend using about 15% on champions when you need to speed up their clear even if they don't use the stat much later (with a few exceptions, such as Nidalee and Evelynn).
  • Keep a pink ward out (or in your inventory) whenever possible. This is important for every champion, but I thought I should emphasis it. There isn't really a good reason not to.

As far as ganking is concerned:

  • When possible, conserve your gap-closer while ganking. If you can get to the enemy champion without using your mobility spell(s), then you can save it to catch them after they try to escape (Flash, dash, blink, etc).
  • You should should try to stay between the enemy and their escape route. You should be trying to move backwards (towards their escape) in-between attacks so that you can body-block them and slow their escape. This also leaves you closer to them if they try to dash on blink past you.
  • Use Raptor's smite buff to determine if you have been spotted by wards when ganking to reduce the risk of them escaping or receiving a counter-gank.
  • It can be risky to gank top-lane while Dragon is up since the enemy team can just group and take it 4v3. I'd recommend ganking top-lane early if possible (after your initial clear) and when Dragon is down; that lane can be quite snowbally due to isolation, so you want to get your ally ahead.
  • Learn to recognize the general times when buff camps spawn during games. If you see the enemy gank bottom lane while their top-side buff is up, you can go steal it from them.
  • Watch when top and bottom lane initially go into lane. If that lane has leashed for their jungler (missing health, mana, or showed up to lane a bit late), then you know where the enemy jungler has likely started and where they will end their clear (where is closest for them to gank).
  • If you have killed the enemy laner, you can either allow your laner to freeze or shove the lane into the enemy tower. If you shove the wave under tower and the next minion wave is coming up, it can be helpful to proxy it to ensure that the wave fully resets and the enemy laner misses as much as possible. This is very situational though and you will have to learn when through experience.

Other tips:

  • Whenever possible, walk up to the enemy champion during a gank and save your gap-closer for after they use their escape abilities.
  • Watch the enemy laners when they go into lane. Whichever lane shows up later and/or missing mana will likely indicate which side of the jungle the enemy jungler started on (which is useful for predicting gank paths and for counter-jungling).
  • When against aggressive early counter-junglers (i.e. Shaco) it can be a good idea to start on your buff camp and/or to start on a different side than you usually do. If he invades your buff, you've already taken it and/or you aren't there to be killed.
  • Watch the minimap to see when and where the enemy goes to ward, which laners are pushing, which laners are vulnerable
  • Know, roughly, how most laning matchups go so that you can prioritize which lanes are the easiest to gank or require an early gank to decide the matchup.
  • If you have blown an enemy's Flash during a gank but haven't killed them, swing back around immediately after an gank them again. Many people don't expect it
  • If you've killed an enemy during a previous gank in top lane, kill them again immediately after they return to lane. They likely won't have wards up yet and a second back-to-back death can be enough to completely crush any chance that opponent has to recover the lane.
  • Top laners rarely bother warding the lane bushes. As such, lane ganks can be quite surprising and effective.
  • When you kill an enemy laner, shove the minion wave into the tower so they miss gold and experience and so that the minion wave will reset to the middle of the lane. If you can get away with it, clear the upcoming minion wave as well to ensure the reset and maximum missed minions.

You will learn a lot through experience, but these tips should help you at the start.

F031 votes

{quoted} Twisted Fate.

There's your problem, you listened to anything a tf player had to say. Unless they are ssbmhax the tf is going to be garbage

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Oh, I didn't listen to them.

I laughed as I got everyone else fed, carried the game and had both teams support me when he began raging in all-chat.

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

Lol ganking fizz.... Unless I knew he was OOM, flashless and had troll poll on cd I wouldn't even go near that lane.

Rikari7 votes

happens when your team is 50-36 and they're 0-36-0

Bobloser35555 votes

Had people wanting to report me after carrying and winning game - for troll pick...

Carnage5 votes

the supp took a cs plz FF

BoundaryBreaker1 votes

The kicker: Supp has Relic.

Blue Moon Wolf3 votes

Lulu That tasted purple

Serika Zero6 votes

are we going to start shipping Malzahar x Lulu now?

Skelenth6 votes

Malzahar Kassadin Alistar Jax Kennen Malzahar Khazix Morgana RekSai Skarner Soraka Veigar Lulu is the freaking embodiement of gluttony

Serika Zero1 votes

New lore: Lulu is Kassadin's daughter. And Malzahar "kidnapped" her by making a fairy voidling and brain washing her.

Lulu x Malzahar ships now

Gregor Gysi1 votes

That sounds kinda heavy for LoL lore..

Serika Zero2 votes

really? but we already have psychopaths serial killers Warwick Jhin what's wrong with kidnappers and brain washing?

Gregor Gysi2 votes

Well, it's rape. As far as I know there is no sexual violence in LoL lore so far.

Ah wait, never mind. Actually we already have Ahri so I guess there is no problem.

Serika Zero3 votes

and she's quite the popular one, ain't she

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

And there's the Vayne x Vlad fanfic totally canon VERY heavy and detailed lore.

Ralanr2 votes

Lulu: So...much...PURPLE!

Squidsmastah3 votes

I can translate this in Beakerese

me me me me me me me me me me me 9

MrWasjig2 votes

The worst is when things aren't going great at only five minutes: "GG FF@20 it's over!"

I'm just like....it's been 5 minutes...chillout would yah!?

Lugg2 votes

I have been on teams that wanted to surrender because the other team took first dragon, even though we were up 3 kills.

Vellich0r1 votes

I had a diana who was doomcalling as we were winning 40/24. almost lost us the game too.

angryturtle42991 votes

i wish you could trash talk in league (to a certain extent) because you put people in a purely competitive game which does not rely on your own set of skills but on every ones and we all know that one dude that feeds and messes up our ranked games and reports every one for being mean to him WHEN HE FED IN RANKED

Tentacle Love1 votes

But what if you work in a mascara factory and there actually is a smell to color #9?

Noblewind1 votes

If you "GG"or "FF" in chat before your team has even lost a tower, the client should automatically file a report from everyone in the current game

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