When the ADC is a nice guy, and it is the support who is the asshole

Laughing Fish·Aug 8, 2016·36 votes·2,370 views

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Honestly, I have been seeing this happen increasingly often. It's strange.

89 Comments

HexaDecimelAug 8, 201616 votes

I just get so angry when they won't let me proc my Targon's

Laughing FishAug 8, 201615 votes

That is the worst. When the ADC has completed item 3085 and won't stop decimating the minion waves enough to proc Targon's. http://media1.giphy.com/media/sIE0hveuiwCNG/giphy.gif

HexaDecimelAug 8, 201612 votes

I had an adc flash to get a cannon minion right before I got it with targons.

Laughing FishAug 8, 20164 votes

Yeah, I have seen some ADCs go to extreme lengths to "secure" that cannon minion https://media.giphy.com/media/uKT0MWezNGewE/giphy.gif

Insanity SongAug 8, 20163 votes

Whats the worst you've seen

Laughing FishAug 8, 20161 votes

I dare not speak it, for fear of getting banned.

ARequestOfDeathAug 9, 20162 votes

DO IT

Laughing FishAug 9, 20161 votes

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ARequestOfDeathAug 9, 20161 votes

i will give you a 7 scoop ice cream cone with 2 cherries on top right now if you tell the M&G board your story. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Cherry_Stella444.jpg http://www.hallsley.com/files/2013/07/7-scoop-ice-cream-cone.jpg

Laughing FishAug 9, 20162 votes

Alright, I made a gif of the event. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/CENSORED.svg/2000px-CENSORED.svg.png

lofi n chillhopAug 8, 20162 votes

oMG this always happens to thresh's and I feel soo bad T_T I wanna just hug them and make the sad go away but I can't T_T

GrReaper96Aug 9, 201612 votes

All i see here are supports trying to defend themselves saying the adc must of been stupid or smthg. Rude and unlikable supports exist it isn't some holy sacred role. As i support i myself sometimes get chewed on unnecessarily by my teammates. It doesn't give me the right to act like a special snowflake or anything. Deal with it.

PS: incoming support mains down voting because they think they are entitled to be loved by all.

GibberwattAug 9, 20162 votes

We don't need love. We would prefer to just be treated kinda like the top-laner. aka ignored. If we fuck up, there is silence in the chat. If we do some god play, resulting in a triple kill, we get a gj, maybe. Thats all.

Praetor NotoriasAug 9, 20163 votes

I got your special snowflake here: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/friends-are-like-snowflakes.jpeg

Though to be honest I quit playing normal supports because the adcs this season are ignorant of the support's needs more times than not. I used to care if I stole a kill. Now I'm like you shoulda reacted faster. I'm gonna go buy wards with this gold I just earned.

RISE Shlack123Aug 9, 20168 votes

I'm a support main, and I think I can shed some light on this phenomenon.

Those of us who have been around since Season 3 and prior know how poorly the support players were treated. We were the ADC's slave. We did everything for the ADC. We got abused, we got no credit, and if we accidentally took a kill or even a lowly cs, we got bitched at. And if the wards expired, you bet your ass we heard about it.

Then, suddenly, Season 4 happened. Supports started getting more gold. Not as much as the other roles, but it was a significant increase. Before you knew it, supports were viable members of the team because we could afford better items, items we could only look at longingly while we bought our Kages, Heart of Gold and or Philosopher Stones in previous seasons. And another bit of magic happened - trinkets. ADCs could no longer auto-blame the support if there was no vision. They had no excuse. Supports started making plays, living longer, and doing more damage than ever before.

From here, things took a turn. PSAs were daily about how you should respect your support and be thankful for the person sacrificing the big damage and high kill totals for setting up the team for victory. Supports were beginning to get treated like the Season 3 ADC, and the ADC started getting treated like the Season 3 support.

Supports these days have no idea the struggles we OG supports went through to get us all the respect we deserve. All they know now is that the support is honored and if something goes wrong, it's the ADC's fault. They don't realize that they are doing to ADCs what ADCs used to do to supports.

I, for one, say that we should treat BOTH bot laners with the respect they deserve. Bot lane is arguably the most important lane in the game, and if we don't work together and overcome this "ADC vs support" rolism, then we're going to be losing tower first bloods and infernal drakes all the way to Bronze 5.

Down with rolism! Support an EQUAL bot lane! Blame the mid laner - we all know they're the ones feeding anyway! Kappa

AMYS GRAVEAug 9, 20161 votes

From here, things took a turn. PSAs were daily about how you should respect your support and be thankful for the person sacrificing the big damage and high kill totals for setting up the team for victory. Supports were beginning to get treated like the Season 3 ADC, and the ADC started getting treated like the Season 3 support.

Really? Because last week alone i, the support, was told to kill myself 8 times by my teammates. Supports are not being treated like S3 ADCs, that's laughable.

RISE Shlack123Aug 10, 20161 votes

Tell me that no other role has received such verbal abuse. You can't because everyone gets it. This community is toxic by-in-large.

You can disagree with my post, but I've been around long enough to tell you that I disagree with your assessment fully on the grounds of everyone gets equal hate by this community. Supports are treated far, far better than they used to be.

AMYS GRAVEAug 10, 20161 votes

Supports almost certainly are treated better than they used to be, but to think they are treated better than other roles right now is just not true. Supports now are more equal than anything whereas (in my memory) S3 ADCs were treated better than other roles.

RISE Shlack123Aug 11, 20161 votes

Perhaps I exaggerated a bit, but it was to make a point. That point is supports are treated far better than they used to be.

Bladerunner7777Aug 8, 20166 votes

Bad support players now feel entitled because everyone stopped scolding them and Riot's trying to give them special treatment

Quit slacking!

Lestat S46Aug 9, 20164 votes

As a support main I can turn the world upside down and hand kills to my carry on a silver platter but when he runs away or continues to farm minions instead of taking the gift ive given him and it GETS ME KILLED. Its pretty god damn annoying.

Insanity SongAug 8, 20162 votes

Some supports have been given there backbone along with them already not being a support main

Laughing FishAug 8, 20163 votes

I think people not being support mains but being forced into support is the problem. Most people don't want support, so now most supports are already salty they are there before the game even begins.

HexaDecimelAug 8, 20164 votes

I feel like I am one of the few that enjoys supporting. Heck I go to play Overwatch and this happens..... https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-06-2016/9tkOw3.gif

Laughing FishAug 8, 20162 votes

Supports are amazing in Overwatch. It is more like the opposite there, you can't always get support because 3 other people already picked one

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DREADN0UGHTAug 8, 20162 votes

Supports in Overwatch are good?

Wait, lets see here:

Mercy: Heals a fuck ton, has mass resurection ulti. Yes. Symmetra: What the fuck does that champ even do. Her it is sooooooooo weird. WHAT THE FUUUU-- Ana: IS SNIPING MY ALLIES SUPPOSED TO BE EASIER? Zenyatta: Second best supp imo Lucio: Better than mercy on maps with lots of cliffs. Also its hilarious when he says shit lile ''AWW DISS IZ MAH JAHHMMMM''

Yeah supports are good.

Laughing FishAug 8, 20162 votes

Symmetra's kit takes some getting used to, but she is my favorite support by far.

DREADN0UGHTAug 8, 20162 votes

Those fkin laser turrets hidden on walls right as you enter a room. Never gets old.

Laughing FishAug 8, 20162 votes

Well in her defense you are playing in her reality. https://66.media.tumblr.com/477d068ce3be47d880cc0a1bfb3c732c/tumblr_o8diwtVsH91un7uhro3_250.gif

DREADN0UGHTAug 8, 20162 votes

Lol how do I lore

Laughing FishAug 8, 20163 votes

Just stop spreading disorder, and everything will be fine. https://66.media.tumblr.com/af1e9ab9d55b02316aea87258d0670b7/tumblr_inline_o9gzrsuFEl1r5ara0_540.gif

Insanity SongAug 8, 20162 votes

DING DING DING You are correct hell most of season 3 i was forced to be a support because my friends were better then me in every role so i sorta hate being support but braum is a beast of a man

HexaDecimelAug 8, 20163 votes

Master Shield Race http://i.imgur.com/rVB44B3.gif?noredirect

Insanity SongAug 8, 20162 votes

HA funny thing is i really do love playing leona just the feeling of being able to stun lock someone for the team AND DYING TO SAVE THE TEAM

HexaDecimelAug 8, 20163 votes

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Insanity SongAug 8, 20163 votes

BUT RISES AGAIN HARDER AND STRONGER

HexaDecimelAug 8, 20163 votes

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Laughing FishAug 8, 20162 votes

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Insanity SongAug 8, 20164 votes

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Insanity SongAug 8, 20162 votes

On a side not ive got no clue how to post gifs D:

DREADN0UGHTAug 8, 20162 votes

The same way you post pictures.

HexaDecimelAug 8, 20162 votes

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Meep ManAug 8, 20162 votes

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zlumpyAug 9, 20162 votes

Support players are just getting frustrated that the support category champs keep getting nerfs. I know I get frustrated with some of the stuff Riot has done to support type champs over the years.

RISE Shlack123Aug 9, 20161 votes

It depends on how long the support player has been playing League. If they are post-Season 3 supports, then they don't understand how upgraded the role has been from previous eras. Supports have been buffed for many seasons on-end now, and they are actually at a point where they have to be nerfed because they are strong now.

zlumpyAug 9, 20162 votes

I've been playing support from about a year after game came out. Supports feel way weaker than they used to actually. Some of my favorite support options are pretty much gone as well. Plus many things supports used to be able to do are gone like Janna ult pushing people through walls or Leona or Rammus super tanking whole enemy teams.

RISE Shlack123Aug 9, 20161 votes

Feeling way weaker and actually being way weaker are different concepts. Feeling is judgement not based on numbers. Some of those changes had to be made because they were broken, so I don't consider removing toxic or overpowered interactions to be making champions weaker since those interactions needed to be removed due to being broken in the first place.

Supports are in a great place right now. Support itemization is better and the support pool is richer with better utility and carry support options. And Leona just got a nice buff a couple patches ago and is low-key overpowered in her current state. And this isn't even mentioning Sona's current state.

zlumpyAug 9, 20162 votes

Leona got a power shift not a straight buff. The patch traded stronger lane phase kill pressure for late game team fight power.

Many of the things removed or changed weren't really all that toxic. Somethings like Raka losing silence/mana battery obviously were while others like constant nerfs to Lulu Q aren't. Most supports get nerfed when they become viable in other lanes or due to high elo/pro cordinated play strengths (Braum) Which has lead to non supports being more and more viable in the support role.

Itemization is good but thats also relative. Old itemization may not have been as great but we also didn't have the same levels of damage and mobility creep then that we do now. Sightstone is nice but it isnt like the otuer guy could buy the item while I couldn't as support. Honestly thinking here I can't think of any support champs that are MORE fun to play as than their previous versions. Thresh may be the only support I can think of that hasn't been nerfed a lot since creation, but I also never really liked thresh so I don't remember what he used to be like.

Even Sona with her buffs is less fun imo. She may be buffed but the buffs are in a way that makes her boring to play and unfun to play against.

At the end of the day you have to ask: Is accesibilty for all and a focus solely on winning games a good trade for just basic levels of fun being removed? We saw how well that decision worked for the MMORPG franchise and WoW hopefully LoL doesn't end up doing the same thing to Mobas.

RISE Shlack123Aug 10, 20162 votes

Leona got straight-up buffed. Period. Her next 3 autos after casting her ult have increased range and apply her passive. That's a buff, even if some of her numbers were tuned down a bit. She was never used for damage anyway, so they added more damage to her kit while she's in the middle of the enemy team, which is an overall buff to her teamfighting. This is widely agreed upon, so if you disagree with me, you disagree with the majority as well.

Lulu's Q nerfs were to combat her solo laning, which was vastly overpowered. If you recall, she was pick/ban throughout 2014 and part of 2015 as a top or mid laner. She still gets the utility out of her Q, just the damage was mitigated to force her back into the support role. But the Q's utility remains basically the same. Supports aren't supposed to do a ton of base damage since the S4 changes. And you talked about powershifting on Leona, but you don't apply the same logic to support changes. Odd.

Support is a role, and items that are designed to fit that role are designed with that role in mind. Ardent Censor isn't designed to compete with Rabadon's Deathcap - it has it's own use on champions that make good supports. So if you're playing the support role to top the damage charts, you're playing the wrong role. Thresh has seen a couple of significant nerfs in the past year - his lantern no longer shields his entire team, and his box only does damage on the first wall broken. That may not seem like a lot on paper, but in practice, it was huge. You just don't understand the impact or didn't care to follow the changes. But you made a patently false statement in saying Thresh hasn't been nerfed.

When you speak about Sona changes in an opinionated manner, it nullifies any factual statements that could be made for or against her. It's not an objective statement and is thus disregarded as opinion.

At the end of the day, I play support to support my team. I don't play support for the glory of the most kills or most damage. I play support to facilitate my team's victory. At the end of the day, I think Riot has done a good job in balancing support to be viable members of the team by giving them relevant damage stats while also providing a vast increase in itemization compared to previous seasons. You now have actual choices in what you can build instead of building the same core itemset no matter if you're playing support Leona or Soraka. Your opinion seems to be of the matter that since supports don't do as much damage as say the mid laner, that role isn't as fun. Well, I'd counter by saying that's your opinion, and if you're playing support for the glory and the damage, you're playing the wrong role.

zlumpyAug 10, 20161 votes

I did say for Thresh that I didn't remember if he had been nerfed or not. Not that it had never happened.

Also I never said I wanted tons of damage. On Leona I liked having my early damage because it gave the lane more kill pressure. Now more people can get away from my all in leaving me standing atound bot with not enough mana and less health. Her ult dmg change isnt really a buff either. So what if you can apply more passive stacks most enemies die long before you ever get to full attacks from ult off anyway. It was better to have the dmg front loaded on the initial hit EARLY game. Late game Q has such a fast cooldown that you dont need the hits from ult to apply passive. So change to ult in my book was pointless and just an early game nerf in exchange for range increase late game to make Q hits easier to land.

I also don't play Sona as a dps mage but thanks for assuming I'm in that crowd. If anything I want her to be changed to be mostly just team oriented buffs instead of straight damage. I hate seeing mid lane mages in bot lane.

Lulu Q dmg nerf makes her support bad. She used to support by zoning like a boss with dangerous Q dmg AND utility. Now you get one or the other not both. The whimsy change was dumb as well. Riot should have put the AS buff on Pix so you dont have to sacrifice your only good early game cc to buff an adc who won't always even use the buff you give them. So what if she did well in solo lanes plenty of stuff beat her in solo. People just didn't wanna play anything else and complained non stop so they couldnstay in their comfort zones. I can think of several good top and mid laners that do fine or beat lulu in lane even when she was buffed.

I also love playing supports to support a team but I also acknowledge that sometimes the best way you can support a team is with dmg depending on the team comp. It's why Annie and Zyra work so well as supports. Same goes for base support champs. By gutting dmg you can really cripple their early game pressure and cause them to become way easier to fall behind and be less useful. Imagine if they took 30% of the dmg blitz did on all his skills away. Would you even be afraid of blitz anymore or just let him hook you and not care while you kill him and his adc.