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Lermontove··118 votes·19,144 views

Hello community League of Legends (I apologize in advance for my bad English). I came to ask for help from you because Now strange events are taking place on the YouTube platform. I am a League of Legends player, streamer and a video creator with the best moments on League of Legends. My channel "League of Fails". I've been creating videos and streames for over three years and on my channel more than 59 thousand subscribers. But a few days ago the following situation occurred... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369103115649286148/569893016484184065/forum.jpg The monetization was completely turned off on the channel and the video took off from similar and recommended views as a result, the views plummeted. After contacting the support of YouTube, I found out that they consider my content monotonous, repetitive and it does not belong to me therefore I violate the rights of the copyright holder. But this is not true... There are no copyright claims on my channel, and on all my videos there is a watermark (in the upper right corner). https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369103115649286148/569904803623206912/unknown.png Every day, players send me video moments from their games + I myself watch the gameplay of the players and choose the best to create my content. And according to the License Agreement, any video, gameplay, art, etc. League of Legends, owned by Riot Games. Yes, I understand that many will say "It serves you right," but I did not violation anything. I did not insert built-in advertising into my videos (for selling riot points, buying ratings, selling accounts, boosting, hack etc.) I always followed the reputation of my channel and a small monetization in these three years allowed me to buy a new computer so that the video was not rendering 10 hours+, buy a license for music, buy plug-ins and software for montage. Therefore, I ask for help from Riot, I don't know where else appeal... I don `t know how I should prove that my videos are useful, that my subscribers and viewers find them informative, etc. And such a problem is not only with me, I see how other channels in the League of Legends lose monetization, but for some reason they are silent. Therefore, I ask RIOT games help. You have the main YouTube channel League of Legends and you have a personal manager from YouTube, please ask him why this is happening. I love League of Legends and I want to be part of this community, so I’ve been developing my channel for so many years, and nowI do not know what to do. my channel is completely pessimized. After all, such creators like me, popularize the game and support the interest of other players in it. Now a lot of players from DotA get on my videos, watch them and write that this game is interesting.

It's a little difficult for me to accurately and completely describe the current situation in English, so I will attach a video of a large YouTube Channel in which the exact same situation occurred and he describes it in detail. YouTube Demonetized my Channel and Removed my Ability to Contact Them

32 Comments

TheGreatNinx35 votes

To be honest it might not be Riot auto claiming stuff it might be something screwy on YouTube end. I notice that you're from EUW and I know article 13 got pass (not sure if it is law currently in you're area or not) but it might be related to that. Also it seems the answer they gave is vague as hell. Doesn't tell what exactly what you violated in their terms of service . But hey if it is that i hope riot can get you taking care of. Would also recommend contact support with a link to this form when you do.

Lermontove15 votes

I am generally from Russia :) It's not about the internal laws of Europpa or my country... This is a new YouTube algorithm that is apparently being tested and I was not lucky to get under it. I wrote in support and got the answer the same as in the screenshot. I have a full text version of correspondence with support (communication was in the YouTube support chat). If RIOT ask her, I will give it.

Here is a small fragment of that chat.

Sarah Ezekiel9:31 PM Upon checking, your channel's monetization has been disabled due to Reused content. Sarah Ezekiel9:31 PM This is content that doesn’t provide significant original commentary, or educational value. Sarah Ezekiel9:32 PM In this case, you may re-apply for monetization in 30 days. Neo Lermontove9:32 PM But I do not reuse ... I make gaming / entertainment content. Neo Lermontove9:33 PM In my videos, clippings of game moments of players are used, which are sent to me by mail + my game moments.

togapika1 votes

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I am generally from Russia :) It's not about the internal laws of Europpa or my country... This is a new YouTube algorithm that is apparently being tested and I was not lucky to get under it. I wrote in support and got the answer the same as in the screenshot. I have a full text version of correspondence with support (communication was in the YouTube support chat). If RIOT ask her, I will give it.

Here is a small fragment of that chat. Upon checking, your channel's monetization has been disabled due to Reused content. Sarah Ezekiel9:31 PM This is content that doesn’t provide significant original commentary, or educational value. Sarah Ezekiel9:32 PM In this case, you may re-apply for monetization in 30 days. Neo Lermontove9:32 PM But I do not reuse ... I make gaming / entertainment content. Neo Lermontove9:33 PM In my videos, clippings of game moments of players are used, which are sent to me by mail + my game moments.

If all you post is clips strung together without any actual commentary then you're doing exactly what they say you're doing.

Ęsdeath2 votes

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To be honest it might not be Riot auto claiming stuff it might be something screwy on YouTube end. I notice that you're from EUW and I know article 13 got pass (not sure if it is law currently in you're area or not) but it might be related to that. Also it seems the answer they gave is vague as hell. Doesn't tell what exactly what you violated in their terms of service . But hey if it is that i hope riot can get you taking care of. Would also recommend contact support with a link to this form when you do.

No country has yet implemented the directive. (Tip: The first ones that might implement a lot sooner than others is France). Secondly, despite Article 13 being a synonym a Cancer (guess Yasuo has gained some competition), it at least strictly and explicitly forces companies to listen to all disputes, no exceptions. And Riot has already stated (in multiple platforms and indirectly in their terms of service) that they do not mind having streaming/video services applied upon their games (or game, in this case).

Something important to note ... If this was really deriving from Article 13, all of his videos would be taken down ONLY WITHIN EUROPEAN REGIONS, so ... yeah. This situation has hardly anything to do with the new copyright directive.

Eldeazar12 votes

Your English was perfect. Even the singular in Riot GAME. They only really have one ;) I really hope your issue gets resolved. If you know anyone educated in Law give them a quick call for advice or seek a professional. Review the rules to build your case. Don't panic, don't get emotional, don't get depressed everything will be fine. https://www.riotgames.com/en/legal Use every channel available to you; Support tickets (https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us) , try to get the contact of their offices in Moscow, YouTube support systems for content creators, anything and everything you can.

Lermontove6 votes

Thanks Bro. From a legal point of view, I know everything, 3 years ago when I decided to create League of Legends videos on an ongoing basis, I thoroughly studied the rules and agreement. There is no point in writing in the Support League of Legends. game issues are solved there, but I have no game question, and the likelihood that some of the developers will read this topic on the forum and try to help me much higher.

Regarding the Lawyer. I live in Russia and here is not so simple with the laws and legal support, and the official office of Russian YouTube can do nothing, it employs about 10 people who answer common questions, and any complicated ones are processed only by mail prepared answers, I contacted them.

Eldeazar2 votes

Try to contact Riot offices in Moscow via mail or phone. Try to get people to give you their contacts. This is your money, your business. Keep your chin up and fight it. Content creators and YouTube are under enormous pressure these days and it's very unfair, given you advertise their content to an audience. You, and other creators, fuel the game, add to the buzz. You deserve to be treated BETTER. My hope is that you will find support if you keep on digging. Best of luck

CytheGuy11 votes

Understanding what you were flagged for and what content you make, it sounds like someone/some people at Youtube are a little partisan against you. If this type of content is allowed to be called "reused" and is compiled against the original clip owner's will then Steam Highlights videos are even worse, but I don't see them getting shut down like this at all.

In the box explaining what you did wrong, they are essentially saying that you are stealing content. If you explained to them how you come across these clips, and that they are put into videos with consent of the clip owners, and they still refuse to talk to you or lift the demonetization of your channel then they are attacking you directly for some reason. At this point it isn't about breaking terms of service; someone doesn't like you.

Lermontove3 votes

I attached a video with the same problem from another channel, it describes everything in more detail. He makes a generally unique video, with voice acting, etc. and he has exactly the same problem as me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvfmpAtKbLI

CytheGuy1 votes

If they are also targeting someone who does stuff like that they are seriously out for blood.

togapika1 votes

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Understanding what you were flagged for and what content you make, it sounds like someone/some people at Youtube are a little partisan against you. If this type of content is allowed to be called "reused" and is compiled against the original clip owner's will then Steam Highlights videos are even worse, but I don't see them getting shut down like this at all.

In the box explaining what you did wrong, they are essentially saying that you are stealing content. If you explained to them how you come across these clips, and that they are put into videos with consent of the clip owners, and they still refuse to talk to you or lift the demonetization of your channel then they are attacking you directly for some reason. At this point it isn't about breaking terms of service; someone doesn't like you.

Except I'm betting he doesn't get consent except from the clips people send him themselves

CytheGuy2 votes

Other than the clips he uses from himself, the only way he gets clips is from other people sending them to him.

Lermontove1 votes

Part of the video I shoot myself. You can download a replay of any game (I wrote a parser that analyzes the statistics on the site op.gg ) I download the replay and watch it, if I find cool moments I record it, if not I download the next replay. In this situation, I do not ask for consent because who to ask? Replays are automatically available after the game to any person. Here, for example, your game: Khazix is two days ago, you have a MVP and Double Kill, here is your replay and the moment with Double. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369103115649286148/570622947136634890/unknown.png

Mr Elessar4 votes

Alert to all creators, unless you want your channels to be demonetized for ''reused content''. Even of you are in the right and your video is fair use. Remove the claimed videos. YouTube is demonetizing channels on the spot, channels that have a certain amount of claims in a short period. Those videos are not worth your whole channel. If the claims have a timestamp, just remove the content claimed with the editing tools on YT. If the video has been manually claimed, just remove the whole thing. For future videos don't use footage that you know is going to get claimed. Use royalty free music when you want to use music. Just a heads up.

~~Memology 101 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1X9HTMhyL4UpmjgkrN41oQ/community

MaydayMayes1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Elessar,realm=EUNE,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=XnQHiqRf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-22T20:09:53.013+0000)

Alert to all creators, unless you want your channels to be demonetized for ''reused content''. Even of you are in the right and your video is fair use. Remove the claimed videos. YouTube is demonetizing channels on the spot, channels that have a certain amount of claims in a short period. Those videos are not worth your whole channel. If the claims have a timestamp, just remove the content claimed with the editing tools on YT. If the video has been manually claimed, just remove the whole thing. For future videos don't use footage that you know is going to get claimed. Use royalty free music when you want to use music. Just a heads up.

~~Memology 101 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1X9HTMhyL4UpmjgkrN41oQ/community

wow this really trash

I JungleOnly I4 votes

I'm really Sorry for you and all the Work you put into this but in the end i see YouTube having two major problems atm the first is professor akali and his franchising system combined with their clickbaity thumbnails and titles and the second one are montage channels that reuse all the interesting plays across their videos. It really often Feels like you've Seen a Vid before but in reality that other montage just already had 1/3 the same content. Best of luck in reclaiming monetarization though!!

Lermontove2 votes

This is not problem. The viewer decides what to watch. For example, the channel " Hi im coconut" takes the brightest moments from streams on Twitch. I could make such content, but there is already too much of it, but there are very few channels that use video from ordinary players. Not all players are professionals\popular streamers, a huge number of players have the rank of Bronze or unranked, but they are such a part of the community League and if they make a beautiful Pentakill (even if accidentally) I will always add their moment in the video so that thousands of other players could see and share joy. That is why my channel is so called because to make a pentakill or another cool moment, the enemy must be fails.

For example, this is my 1st successful video ( God, how long ago was that ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CymeKo_4-U0 Yes, this not my play, I looked through many replays and noticed this moment and recorded this vide add music from YouTube. When the video became popular, a huge number of other channels used it in their work, but I was not opposed to it. because many people saw this moment.

Lermontove4 votes

The sad thing is to open my mail. And to see how the players send me new moments, but I am in depression because of this whole situation... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/369103115649286148/569996714434363392/unknown.png

OlympusSworn4 votes

Dude this sucks. I know the boards like to quibble and fight, but I hope that this is something we can unite on. I watch your videos and I enjoy them. League boards, pls join me in upvoting Op's post and asking riot to help one of their content creators. This ban on the Op is both wrong and illogical, and it must not stand!

i4got2pull0ut4 votes

God I wish there was a solid alternative to this platform at this point. I get that content needs to be policed but the amount of times we have seen this, or just general demonetization for content (Like MagikarpUsedFly's "Actual champion spotlights" for example) is really just a punch in the gut for the CC and the CA. Because Youtube is effectively a social media site, it can't be called a monopoly, but in terms of posting and viewing video content, its easily the most reliable place that you know your content will be seen.

I think what needs to happen is YT needs to break their platform into subsections that have their own rules. If I'm posting something for Kids, then I should have different rules if I am posting something for a generally adult community. This umbrella bs isn't helping anyone.

That's my opinion 2 years into a CS degree, so maybe there is something I don't understand; of course I'm no expert.

iTaLenTZ4 votes

Discoheat is what got me into League of Legends with his 'League of Children series' and his channel also suffered the same fate years ago.

Lermontove3 votes

More than 22 hours have passed. And no response from the RIOT games team.... One could at least write that you regret or are concerned, but so far only silence. I sincerely hope that they will answer and, if possible, help me.

NoDragonsPlz3 votes

You're in EUW and Article 13 got passed. It's probably a preemptive demonetization due to the fact that you are uploading montages of (and bear with me on this) people's content who is not yours. It doesn't matter if it's someone else's gameplay, someone else's stream clip, etc. It is technically violating Article 13. It's annoying, and this was the fear of Article 13 passing, but yes, it is the case of it sometimes.

Lermontove1 votes

Bro, I am in Russia and in my country there is no this law. And YouTube has a function that restricts video for certain regions (believe me, since in Russia it is constant, having a paid VPN is a common thing for a Russian citizen).

NoDragonsPlz1 votes

It likely does not matter to Youtube. Russia is in eastern Europe, and because they are still in Europe, chances are it is a blanket thing that is happening. It doesn't matter what VPN you use if when you sign up for a Google account, you don't specify what country you are in outside of Europe. Article 13 is gonna likely still play a huge role into it.

Vlada Cut2 votes

Duh. You can't monetize gossips or ckips that were originally made by the srramers thst were mentioned in your videos. Reused content is NOT even monetizable to begin with. Justified.

14daysuspensionk1 votes

I know EXACTLY what you're going through bud, I also got demonetized for reused content, 0 community guidelines strikes/copyright strikes. I know EXACTLY how you feel. It really does suck.

Garen is adopted1 votes

How exactly could Riot help you?

Lermontove1 votes

The main channel (official channel ) of the League of Legends on YouTube is owned by Riot Games. They have a personal manager from YouTube, they can find out from him the reason for what is happening (the real reason, and not the abstraction that they sent me, you can close any channel and deprive of monetization by referring to the fact that they sent me). Plus, they can point out that all of the Copyright for any material from League of Legends game (video, audio, arts, etc.) belongs to their campaign (Riot Games).

PlatinumWolfZ1 votes

Article 13 at it's finest...

Frog goes moo1 votes

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Article 13 at it's finest...

this has been around before article thirteen believe it or not. In fact, this goes back to when they were doing "secondary reviews" that were promised to take a month but ended up being almost a full year. Many content creators have been hit by it and it usually hits content creators that aren't uploading their own work. Youtube has made a statement saying even if you own the rights to upload it, if it's still on another source such as twitch or dailymotion, then it's unmonetizeable. Many compilation channels have been hit due to this, but I find it strange that his channel is the only one being hit, because synapse, fun of legends, etc are doing the same thing, so it doesn't really make much sense, but again, this has been around for a while.

DJ KeviKev II1 votes

Your complaining about not making money or views from video clip you took from other streamers? Honestly you should not have made money from it to begin with lets be real

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