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Dunkey quits league

CorporalCrap··163 votes·25,944 views

riot you need to get your act together he promoted your game for years and you wont help him out one time youve really got to get your priorities strait

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Loken Stoneheart144 votes

No, he definitely deserved his ban. He said something pretty damn awful. He showed that he's incapable of just moving on from a bad experience with another person by venting his frustrations in a foul display of unsportsmanlike conduct.

In fact, I actually like that he got punished. Just because you're a pro, or you're famous or whatever, shouldn't protect you from the consequences of your actions. Riot get a thumbs up on this one.

I enjoy his videos, but he's just wrong here.

Archener31 votes

[{quoted}](name=Loken Stoneheart,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=3EuXAq9A,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2015-09-12T21:18:01.066+0000)

No, he definitely deserved his ban. He said something pretty damn awful. He showed that he's incapable of just moving on from a bad experience with another person by venting his frustrations in a foul display of unsportsmanlike conduct.

In fact, I actually like that he got punished. Just because you're a pro, or you're famous or whatever, shouldn't protect you from the consequences of your actions. Riot get a thumbs up on this one.

I enjoy his videos, but he's just wrong here.

Yea but the malphite is still trolling and hasnt been banned. In fact, i say everything he said AND MORE but I dont type it in chat because I dont want to be banned.

That malphite should have been banned first THEN they should consider banning dunkey. Dont know why riot prioritizes toxic people over feeders.

Sniper 035 votes

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Yea but the malphite is still trolling and hasnt been banned. In fact, i say everything he said AND MORE but I dont type it in chat because I dont want to be banned.

If malph is still (intentionally) feeding he deserves a ban as well but unlike dunkey, his history probably isn't chalked full of it. The malph may have already received a ban and didn't want other people finishing promos, I dunno. The malph may just be on tilt. That's what the report for unskilled is for. Yes the system is flawed but Dunkey shouldn't have been able to go on as long as he did.

Archener29 votes

Dude literally said that because of bard, he was gonna troll. And he said he gave his team "ample time to dodge"

That means that scum will do the same when people dont dodge, most people dodge but those who dont will get trolled by him. Do you know how many people hes probs harassed for not getting his role? He is blackmailing his teammates, and hes scum and should have been banned the second this happened. But we have no way of reporting in the client because dont know, and we have no way of banning feeders.

Sniper 015 votes

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Dude literally said that because of bard, he was gonna troll. And he said he gave his team "ample time to dodge"

That means that scum will do the same when people dont dodge, most people dodge but those who dont will get trolled by him. Do you know how many people hes probs harassed for not getting his role? He is blackmailing his teammates, and hes scum and should have been banned the second this happened. But we have no way of reporting in the client because dont know, and we have no way of banning feeders.

Like I said... He will probably end up getting banned. He probably doesn't have a history of it occurring. Dunkey flaming during the game didn't help his case. You gotta learn to mute idiots and just bit your tongue. :/ You reacting to the troll is just as bad as the troll trolling. You're gonna end up tilting the team even harder and destroy any solidarity you could muster from being positive. Dunkey has a long history of being a flamer... :/

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"ive never had a troll team and im silver" So? Since you haven;t had a troll team that means that others cant complain that riot basically allows this to happen but as soon as you call someone a retard you get insta banned because its "toxic" Even if his morals for this video are whiny it doesnt really matter. The rest of everything else he said is 100 percent true. Nothing in the video minus him whining about being banned and him asking to get unbanned is false. Riot actually cares so little about the fanbase its unreal.

Dunkey is an asshole a very toxic person. That's all I can say about him as an individual... And no I didn't say he couldn't complain about a troll team but that wasn't the crux of his video. This video was about him being salty as hell about being banned. I don't see a full troll team often... it's like every 1 in 100 games maybe. Sure it's a problem but it's no reason to flame during the game.

Archener15 votes

Dunkey is an asshole

Reported

On a serious note, I didn't defend dunkey, im just saying, lyte should have tackled the feeder problem FIRST, then done work on toxic people.

And no, being toxic will never be equal to trolling a game.

Loken Stoneheart15 votes

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Reported

On a serious note, I didn't defend dunkey, im just saying, lyte should have tackled the feeder problem FIRST, then done work on toxic people.

And no, being toxic will never be equal to trolling a game.

Toxicity in chat is super easy to punish because it's text based proof.

"Feeder" problems are incredibly complex. That person might be rusty, on tilt, have gotten lucky and overextended their elo with a win-streak, been carried... So many things. He/She could just actually be bad at the game, and there is no fair way to ban someone from a game because they're bad. The MMR system will see them playing with people of equal skill soon enough if its unintentional, and if its intentional, Riot's eventual investigations would see them banned from the game.

Vellich0r4 votes

That isn't unskilled, thats intentional feeding and is significantly more toxic than yelling at someone for doing it.

Sniper 02 votes

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That isn't unskilled, thats intentional feeding and is significantly more toxic than yelling at someone for doing it.

You did see what dunkey said right? I was trying to give malphite the benefit of the doubt but I think we all know that dunkey is a consistently toxic individual.

Vellich0r8 votes

I did actually, the player didn't deserve that, but what Dunkey did is significantly more excusable, in my opinion, than what the other person did. You know what that person could've done as recourse to donkey being toxic? Mute button, but what could Dunkey (who makes a lot of his career on League of Legends videos) do as recourse to the malphite? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing. He can't leave the game or leaverbuster ban, he can't recover the LP because there is no recourse for LP, hell he can't even try and get the player banned because Riot cares more about toxic chatboxes which can be muted than they seem to care about someone intentionally ruining the experience for 9 other players over something dumb who cannot be avoided.

ADepressedLeona26 votes

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Yea but the malphite is still trolling and hasnt been banned. In fact, i say everything he said AND MORE but I dont type it in chat because I dont want to be banned.

One persons bad actions doesn't excuse another persons.

"Why am I being banned for talking shit in a video game"

For the same reason you'd probably get punched in the face for talking shit in real life.

Beefy Duck7 votes

The malphite was intentionally feeding so he could get a reaction from someone. Banning Dunkey for getting mad at an asshole who ruined his chance of reaching his series for diamond is obviously wrong. I believe people deserve the rank they are given, and Dunkey was reaching for it. The moment he noticed the malphite was feeding he knew his series weren't coming. Of course he would get mad and show him a piece of his mind. That's how life works.

xray36217 votes

he didnt get banned for telling off malphite. he got banned for consistently being extremely toxic to everyone. its not easy getting banned. they just just randomly slap a ban on someone you have to get reported alot and eventually you get a warning and then eventually you get chat restricted and then way after all this you get banned

Deep Terror Nami74 votes

Lol. Guy is toxic, gets banned, doesn't see the problem.

You can't buy favors from Riot to avoid punishment. That's not how it works and not how it should work. The game is free-to-play.

Video should have been called "Proof that verbal abuse is not okay and your reports matter".

Clôude13 votes

The point isn't whether he was or wasn't toxic, it's that countless players ruin the experience for others and never get punished and when you inevitably get frustrated by this and blow up you get punished. If his teammate was just trying his best like the rest of us this would make sense. The system is broken. Everyone with a brain in their head knows it and props to Dunkey for putting himself on the line to speak out against the money grubbing tyranny that Riot is becoming. Banning Dunkey here is like throwing someone in jail for shooting the person who was trying to stab them and letting the initial aggressor walk free.

As for the players who are just bad at the game, this is Riots fault for having a broken matchmaking system. I'm twice as good as some of the clowns you see in Dunkey's vids and I'm silver because my internet cut out during my placements. Now I'm perma-stuck in elo hell. It's no one's fault for sucking at a game, but it can be expected that you would be able to play with and against people of a similar skill level as yourself.

Deep Terror Nami35 votes

Players like you that try to justify abusing their team is why this community sucks so much.

Fowus4 votes

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Lol. Guy is toxic, gets banned, doesn't see the problem.

You can't buy favors from Riot to avoid punishment. That's not how it works and not how it should work. The game is free-to-play.

Video should have been called "Proof that verbal abuse is not okay and your reports matter".

you know there was a reason right?

Angry Monster24 votes

Riot has consonantly stated that there is no reason for verbal abuse. So there was no reason, to wish death on another player or talk about hunting them down.

If you want to talk like that go find a game company that promotes that behavior, This is has been like the only thing riot has ever been consistent on.

Fowus1 votes

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Riot has consonantly stated that there is no reason for verbal abuse. So there was no reason, to wish death on another player or talk about hunting them down.

If you want to talk like that go find a game company that promotes that behavior, This is has been like the only thing riot has ever been consistent on.

feeding on purpose; trolling

Angry Monster10 votes

learn to read.

Riot has consonantly stated that there is no reason for verbal abuse

no reason can also be taken as 0 reasons. See it is riots game; so riots gets to make the rules. If you do not like the rules

go find a game company that promotes that behavior

which riot has also said. it is not hard.

Crett68 votes

i love dunkey and all but i dont think its ridiculous that he was banned for a week for that

we will all mourn his loss

gubigubi42 votes

Yeah for sure. He wasn't exactly a pure, untoxic person. But I really do think riot needs to look at people who troll in game more than people who are toxic in chat.

Id rather have a team of 4 people telling me to fuck my self and that I should die than 4 people intentionally feeding in my ranked games making me want to fuck myself and die of my own free will.

Wolfeur7 votes

The problem is: how do you know someone is intentionally feeding? Chat is easy, you just have keywords, but intentional feeding (and trolling in general) is really hard to detect.

gubigubi3 votes

Its really hard to detect but it is the bigger problem. Toxic chat is more common but intentional feeders and people purposely ruining games by doing dumb stuff feels much worse. Actions are more powerful than words.

KJOtaku5 votes

There should be an alert button to summon a moderator to view a match and see if someone is being a intentionally toxic or just responding to trolls.

Wolfeur5 votes

The idea is good, however it would probably be too difficult to have enough moderators to see every match needing attention. We talk about the most played game in the world, that means a lot of people.

junglerboy1627 votes

Huh, it's almost like Riot should get their act together and get a replay system up so they can review cases as needed instead of relying on their blatantly flawed reporting system.

disregardable59 votes

I thought that was the most stupid part of his vid. Like I can understand disagreeing with the rules, but you can't just expect Riot to completely ignore them.

Clôude4 votes

What rules?

disregardable36 votes

Don't harass your teammates. It's not like that was the only time he degraded his team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lDb3MzDZEM&list=PLMBTl5yXyrGQTBDqpquLgLpgmuall8yUI&index=2

Deep Terror Nami19 votes

They don't care. They think he should be exempt from the rules he agreed upon just because he's popular.

What they need is to be verbally abused by a popular player and have Riot tell them "Nope sorry, we are not going to do anything because he makes videos".

400 Silly Pandas10 votes

Ummmm that video had nothing toxic in it. Saying "What the fuck" is not toxic. You do know that 95% of him talking in his videos are after they are recorded?

disregardable32 votes

2:50

"trundle fuck you"

Keep in mid that we only see 5% of the time he spends in game, and that's just an example.

Lotus Blade1 votes

at least he didnt type it in chat , plus he's doing it for entertainment not because he actually hates the person

Prozzak9 votes

That was exactly what he did...he typed it in chat. Never saw one of these guys videos until now and have to say...good riddance. Guy thinks he is something special.

Bearricane9 votes

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Don't harass your teammates. It's not like that was the only time he degraded his team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lDb3MzDZEM&list=PLMBTl5yXyrGQTBDqpquLgLpgmuall8yUI&index=2

I understand not harassing your teammates.

But how can anybody can look at that Jarvan gank at 1:15-1:35 and not be upset.

not a starburst18 votes

But there's no way anybody in a healthy state of mind can look at that Jarvan gank at 1:15-1:35 and not be upset.

You can just shrug and get over it. Or you can be upset and not express it in game. If that's too hard, you can be upset and express it in game politely.

CorporalCrap8 votes

its not about them ignoreing the rules its the fact that dunkey has literally promoted their game 4 years and they wont do that one luittle thibng so he can finish his video if they wanted they couild ban him after he did his video

Sniper 034 votes

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its not about them ignoreing the rules its the fact that dunkey has literally promoted their game 4 years and they wont do that one luittle thibng so he can finish his video if they wanted they couild ban him after he did his video

He's always toxic. He sounds like a massive whiner in this video. He doesn't deserve a reprieve. They honestly let him go way longer than they should have....

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/59995026.jpg

Sure I enjoyed his videos but he needs to accept the consequences of his actions like everyone else.... 00:42 That's not even the worst thing he has ever said....

EDIT: The guy has a long history of abusing fellow players on the rift. Plus he's only using a negative experience... I've never had a full troll team, and I'm silver.

Jet Sett30 votes

"Malphite you are a fucking worthless braindead scumfuck bastard pile trash mental dickface that should be gunned down in the street like the degenerate you are"

I'm sorry, WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!? You don't play victim after saying THAT to anyone! I understand the anger but all we can do is report people, and being toxic only exacerbates the situation, so there's no point except giving the troll the power to ban you for making poor decisions. And about the trashtalking in video games; no, there's never a good time to talk shit to people in such an offensive way ever, unless you mean as a joke, but "fucking worthless braindead scumfuck" is no joke, just straight toxic. If that's the kind of player he was i'm glad the community doesn't have to go through that anymore. In regards to the troll, it's awful people get away with that, but attacking them like that is so wrong it doesn't begin to cover for it. Get pissed, yell, scream, shout, FUCKING BREAK SOMETHING, but don't do something you know you'll get shit for and try to turn it around, toxicity is bad and so is trolling, trolling toxic people and being toxic to trolls is like a dog chasing it's tail; not gonna get anywhere, and you'll end up biting your own ass.

Hyrum Graff3 votes

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"Malphite you are a fucking worthless braindead scumfuck bastard pile trash mental dickface that should be gunned down in the street like the degenerate you are"

I'm sorry, WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!? You don't play victim after saying THAT to anyone! I understand the anger but all we can do is report people, and being toxic only exacerbates the situation, so there's no point except giving the troll the power to ban you for making poor decisions. And about the trashtalking in video games; no, there's never a good time to talk shit to people in such an offensive way ever, unless you mean as a joke, but "fucking worthless braindead scumfuck" is no joke, just straight toxic. If that's the kind of player he was i'm glad the community doesn't have to go through that anymore. In regards to the troll, it's awful people get away with that, but attacking them like that is so wrong it doesn't begin to cover for it. Get pissed, yell, scream, shout, FUCKING BREAK SOMETHING, but don't do something you know you'll get shit for and try to turn it around, toxicity is bad and so is trolling, trolling toxic people and being toxic to trolls is like a dog chasing it's tail; not gonna get anywhere, and you'll end up biting your own ass.

So much this.

And here's the thing: I LOVE playful banter, which some people call "shit-talking." It honestly makes the game more fun for me, because I like to brag a little, and it's OOHH so satisfying to shut down the guy who spams the mastery emote every kill he gets, then play your own mastery emote.

But you have to do it in a way that's respectful of the fact that not everybody is ok with that. So you want to spam champion mastery emote when you get a kill? OK. Do it when you die, too. It's a funny bit of irony that lightens the tone for everybody. If you want to say say "outplayed" in all chat, try this instead: "Outplayed?" It does two things:

  1. It feels just as good to say, but feels less like gloating to the other team.
  2. It invites a response from the other team that's NOT "fuck you" or something. It gives you the chance to observe how they respond. If they respond well, you can keep up the banter. If they don't say anything or are obviously annoyed that you said that, you can stop saying it in all chat.

The point is, it's possible to have banter that's still friendly. There's no excuse for toxicity.

Archenz29 votes

I checked the malphite. Hes still feeding! Lol! Dunkey got instabanned, but the malphite is still feeding?

Garbage, I got an adc leblanc with 2 boots and 2 sighstones in a rank game. Its amazing, how shes still playing leblanc adc and trolling right now. Good thing I didnt tell her to piss off or I would be banned.

Narasimha26 votes

Normally, I like Dunkey. But this is just... overly whiny. Like, child got put into time-out so clearly everyone else sucks, whiny.

Xyrne24 votes

It's amazing watching a bunch of idiots completely miss the point. No, he isn't "whining" and quitting because he got a measley weeklong ban. Hes said the game's no longer fun, he's tired of it. He's tired of the people that play it, and the company that runs it. And frankly I agree with nearly everything he said. I don't play this game because it's fun, I play it out of habit. A habit formed over four long years of watching it deteriorate. And sometimes you just have to drop a bad habit.

Bergk22 votes

RIP Dunkey, your league of legends videos always made me laugh. Your videos have consistently renewed my interest in league and brought me back to the rift so many times over the last four years.

Daedalus87121 votes

He deserved the ban, but league has been losing its appeal.

Any thoughts on a new game?

idoki43 votes

I heard Club Penguin is going E-sports

Crate of Cobras19 votes

Let's break this down real quick, Dunkerz.

  1. You say you don't have fun playing the game anymore. That isn't Riot's fault, frankly. Every reason you listed comes down to subjective preference, and many players enjoy the chesslike laning phase. Comebacks happen far more often than you give credit for. While the game is not Street Fighter, the game clearly has enough depth and nuance to let the great players climb - else we wouldn't see the same people in Diamond+ every season.

  2. You say you don't deserve the ban. I'm sorry, but the code that YOU agreed to CLEARLY states that verbal abuse is wrong and a bannable offense. What, are you the kind of guy who goes to another country and refuses to respect their rules because "lol 'Murica?" Fuck that. Malphite should be banned, obviously, but your ban is still upheld - not to mention you've witchhunted via Twitter and on Youtube, which is also bannable. Sorry, you're in the wrong 100%.

  3. You're their number 1 promoter? Possibly, for the young and toxic demographic of this game. Many other successful League Youtubers actually exhibit positive qualities, while you remain one of the only truly toxic ones. I guess it speaks to the quality of the game, if nothing else that you mentioned does, that you've been allowed to be toxic for so long. You get people to play the game - great. But what do you want Riot to do? You go against the summoner code. They CANNOT promote you. They just can't - it's a conflict of interests.

  4. You decide after so much work to throw in the towel like a fucking screaming child because you didn't get your way. Tough luck, get some backbone. You're wrong in almost every way in this video, and just leaving doesn't really do much. People are already into League, you've already paid your money. You're like the kid who quits WoW and leaves a teary post in the forums that everyone laughs at. You know, it does kinda suck that you're leaving, but there's more than just you now.

Get off your high horse.

TheDráco17 votes

I find it amusing that most people here think someone getting their poor little feelings hurt is worse than actually being a detriment to the gameplay.

50West13 votes

The video just further reinforces why the ban from Riot is justified.

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