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[Item Concept] Black Wind -- AD Caster item

IlyaK1986·7/10/2014, 1:07:15 AM·2 votes·1,290 views

So, here's the problem:

When was the last time you saw an MF, Ezreal, Ashe, Varus, or Graves in competitive play? Next to never, right? So, here's my attempt at solving the problem.

(1337) + (1200) + combine (663) = 3200 gold.

30 damage 40% attack speed 20% CDR 20 arpen

Unique passive: Black surge (on hit effect) your basic attacks against champions deal an additional 8% of a champion's missing health as damage and reduce the cooldowns of your abilities by 1 second.

Potential FAQs ahead of time:

Q: Does the passive only proc against champions? A: Yes, that's right. No farming extra CDR against hapless minions. Sorry, bad wording in version 1.

Q: Won't this make X champ broken? A: With Lucian getting nerfed hard, this means that autoattack dependent champions such as Cait, Kog, Tristana, Twitch, and so on generally will want to prioritize their gold into the usual ADC loadout (lifesteal + shiv/PD + IEdge + LW + boots + banshee's/GA/randuin's), so this will probably be a pass for them due to the deliberate lack of crit. The champs that will find use out of this will be the ones that want to combine spells with autoattacks, such as Ashe, Varus, Ezreal (when's the last time you saw him seriously used?), and so on. Cait may be able to use this to good effect, but once again, that means passing up one of those core items. Which one would she sacrifice?

Q: Does this work with Runaan's, as in proc the CDR multiple times? A: That's the idea. Which AD-based champion uses Runaan's? Oh yeah, none of them.

Q: KAYLE! A: When's the last time you saw AD Kayle?

Q: Bork + this = melted tanks? A: That's kind of the idea. Instead of going for massive crit, the idea is that the AD Caster would transition from Bork's bonus to this to take out the front line, but would be weaker against traditional ADCs in a straight duel.

Discuss!

24 Comments

Bagmen7/10/2014, 2:23:05 AM2 votes

Hello! I really like the idea of having another late game item and this one seems to be a nice addition to many champion's builds! The base stats for this item seem quite fair for the price and provide a bit more range than some other more expensive items (Not Triforce of course). The passive is what grabs my attention here. It's quite the unique passive and I'm sure most people would love it, I myself like the 8% missing health damage but the reduced cooldown part may need some changes. This item would be bought during the late game where generally Marksmen would have a decent amount of attack speed (Around 1.5 to 2) So that's a cool one and a half to two seconds shaved off your cooldowns every second on top of the one second that went by while auto attacking (Said second a lot there, sorry). The problem isn't at much as spamming abilities as someone like Vayne (Although still would be a bit of a problem with her tumbling around every few seconds) I'm thinking more of the longer cooldown, that's right, a champion's ult. Say the champions ult has a two minute cooldown and you just stood in lane autoing every minion in sight, a two minute cooldown would swiftly change into a forty or fifty five second one (not including cooldown reduction percent from this item or any others) So you can see the problem with Cait sniping some poor chap every fifty seconds or less, even Udyr changing stances quicker than normal would be quite game changing. I would say change the passive so maybe it happens every three auto attacks or can only happen once every two seconds. If you do change it though keep the cooldown per auto part in the passive, it's am awesome idea but just needs a tiny bit of changing. Great item by the way!

-Brandar

SirTezla7/10/2014, 1:36:49 AM1 votes

Caitlyn uses Runaan's because it procs her passive faster and she already annoys me being a support main, she doesn't really need a buff. Also, I see Ashe and Ezreal being played by C9 Sneaky all the time. If an ADC with an already high attack speed were to buy this (Jinx, Caitlyn, and Ezreal, etc) then they would just melt through everything. If someone were to buy this with a Braum support, the stun would proc really fast and that's just a garenteed win for anyone who has a Caitlyn/Ezreal/Jinx etc. bot lane with Braum. This is a full build in one item. If this were to be nerfed a bit, I'd say it's a great item. I agree that the old AD carrys need to be brought back, but honestly, this isn't the way to do it.

Sire Hippington7/10/2014, 1:59:19 PM1 votes

while i like the idea of an item 3101 + item 3134 item, giving 8%issing health damge on-hit seems to close to BotrK, and to strong if combined on many champs.
And 1sec cd-reduce is plain broken, Xin for example could get an effecktive cd from about 1-2sec on his E and Q, makeing it impossible to escape while also his dps would be massive.
Irelia could Q ever 1 or 2 sec, keep W perma up, stun every~2.5sec for 2sec, use ult every 15sec....

I think it should rather have an acktive that resets AA and deals either bonus truedamage or %health damage or shreds some armor, and reduce the cd of that active by 1sec every hit to complement the 'dps with burstspikes' this item would promote.