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So um... I drew Kindred in a style I've never drawn before >///<

Espurresso··51 votes·6,245 views
http://i.imgur.com/wgppZBs.png

Here is a drawing I made just now >///<

Sorry if the wolf looks bit like a cat <w<

51 Comments

For Carthage24 votes

While lovely, it is an absolute clusterfuck to the eyes.

10/10 would stare at for long periods of time until my sockets bleed.

LaceUp233 votes

Too much klusterfuk for me lol.

LunaGanymede12 votes

Because I am that asshole, here is a critique:

Strengths: colors are lovely and some of the effects have a very nice surreal effect its very loose. Weaknesses: Because the style is so loose, it lacks depth and looks quite messy, upon a glance I only managed to make out Lamb's mask and tits. That was about it, and I honestly do hope that's not the only reason you're getting all these comments, because there is so much more to this piece than just tits.

I would've suggested a less aggressive approach on coloration, seeing as all the loose strokes and "splatters" are really distracting and take away from the champions themselves. Had you used less "flair" and focused more on form and outlining Kindred, the pair would've come out spectacular. They would be easily visible had you not titled it "Kindred fanart", often times, titles are put on abstract, if your intended purpose is fan art, people should be able to immediately tell what you're drawing, unless you specify it as abstract, most modern is direct and should not have to be riddled with guesswork.

Honest rate: 7.5/10

Consider the following to improve future art: Less special effects, more form. Bigger is not always better, Use a line of focus. Guide the eyes with lines, make sure the viewer has a sight target Also, try a varying amount of strokes, the less dynamic in thickness the harder it is for the eyes to discern shapes.

Final thoughts: as an artist that has been drawing for 10 years, please avoid the mistake of purposely misspelling words or talking "cute". When you're an artist, especially on the internet, you want to be taken seriously. Think about this, do you really want someone pulling up things you've done in the future and you see "first fanart evurr", would you feel embarrassed ? Nothing wrong with having a quirky personality, but personality should not affect your grammar. Food for thought.

Aspynn1 votes

I would never call that being an asshole. You made fantastic points and gave solid honest advice and comments. If I were an artist this would be the exact kind of response I would be looking for.

LunaGanymede2 votes

Idk i just felt like I was coming off harsh, cos this artist, by the way they type, sounds really fragile :Titem 3070

PanterLily2 votes

Consider the following to improve future art:

I really don't like how you advise like you know what was the desired result, like it was supposed to be done by a template. And submitted to a contest with parameters to be taken in consideration on topic and style. like painting is aerodynamics and wont fly the way the painting its done. Do you ever considered that maybe a little chaos was desired by the artist, that he wanted it there?

Doesn't matter how are long are you drawing or painting when I hear a critic like you I always see your interest in $ first. Let me brag about myself too, Im an critic my whole life, growing up in my house sounded by people that draw, paint, sculpt, teach art, study art etc.

Consider the following to improve future criticism : Don't put an piece of work from a beginner on a template. And don't criticize an painting based on your preferences of color/contrast and amount of realism; That's a clients job when he orders a piece.

LunaGanymede2 votes

Thank you for your input, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

The Loveless1 votes

He's giving much more than a grain, my friend.

LunaGanymede1 votes

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He's giving much more than a grain, my friend.

you're right its a whole truckload of salt.

LunaGanymede2 votes

Thank you for your input, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

{quoted}

I really don't like how you advise like you know what was the desired result, like it was supposed to be done by a template. And submitted to a contest with parameters to be taken in consideration on topic and style. like painting is aerodynamics and wont fly the way the painting its done.** (I have experimented multiple mediums, both physical and digital, I've practiced and participated in a myriad of competitions, the advice I am giving is advice that was given to me by PROFESSIONALS. I am giving advice because I truly wish to see future fan art from this artist and help them improve, a true artist is an eternal student. There is always room to improve. The art is messy here and it was hard to actually SEE Kindred, who is the subjectmatter. I spoke from an unbiased view point of "I don't know what I am supposed to see" I pointed out that had the person put more definition to the body, the details would all fall into place, rather than floating aimlessly.)** Do you ever considered that maybe a little chaos was desired by the artist, that he wanted it there? (That's for the artist to comment on and decide for themselves, but a little chaos should still have some organization, art in its own merit is chaos, as the creator, its our job what we do to organize it and form an image, and this particular piece lacked only slightly in that department, and I suggested a bit more rigidness to bring out the star of the piece, Kindred.

Doesn't matter how are long are you drawing or painting when I hear a critic like you I always see your interest in $ first. Let me brag about myself too, Im an critic my whole life, growing up in my house sounded by people that draw, paint, sculpt, teach art, study art etc. ( I am not bragging, simply backing up that I've dealt with harsh critics /myself/ and professionals /my art teachers, randoms, actual artists/ for a majority of my life time as an artist. I do not care for money in this particular instance. Would this piece sell? Most definitely. But that isn't the point. Part of growing as an artist is learning how to take yourself and be taken seriously, you can't learn if you don't have some form of discipline, that isn't a money thing. It's simply a discipline thing. We can't live this life being told constantly "you're a winner". You can't always be a winner. Art is ever changing, especially digitally. Being complacent makes it harder on the artist to improve, being happy with being told "its cool, or you did great" is not good for anyone, providing criticism and actual advice from someone who has been there, done that, got the tee shirt, is better than someone who has no actual touch with being in the field of art. That's like asking a mechanic what he thinks about Van Gogh. It's rather hard to grasp. )

Consider the following to improve future criticism : Don't put an piece of work from a beginner on a template. And don't criticize an painting based on your preferences of color/contrast and amount of realism; That's a clients job when he orders a piece.**( You completely missed the point here, I wasn't picking this piece apart like a potential buyer or seller, I took this piece apart in the form of functions and color sense along with dynamics. This artist proved a firm grasp of color sense, but not a lot of form. As for your template statement, everyone starts somewhere, a critique cannot be done without something to reference to. There are guidelines to follow when giving a critique, which involves an infrastructure. You have to go off of impact, application, innovation and verve. These are all measurable. Beginner, or expert, there is always something to reference to when critiquing. Not using a framework to look back at to critique is basically giving an opinion. Baseless and lacking a physical logical reference.) **

Stephenizgod5 votes

See im that asshole who is going to critique your critique:

First off i see both lamb and wolf just fine and i actually love the blend between them. The blurred boundaries where you cant tell where Lamb begins and where Wolf ends, really really fits with the concept. The random splashes and whatnot are sort of what gives this its personality, they fit with the art. Fan Art isnt a specific style of art, you should know as an artist, fan art is simply art of something done by a fan of said something. It can be abstract, it can be hard to see at first, it can be whatever the artist wants it to be.

Consider the following to improve your critiquing of others art: Art is personal, based on personality, style, and individualism. Just because you draw a certain way does not mean it is the best way. Yea the special effects and obscure form do not hit your eyes pleasingly but they do to mine. Bigger or smaller does not matter its how you use it (lol couldnt help myself). Again with the Artist can draw however, maybe they intended for your eyes NOT to focus on any one thing, maybe they want your eyes to just wander?

Final thoughts: I actually agree with you on this but i dont think anyone should be talking cute... its stupid.

Also tits

LunaGanymede4 votes

{quoted}

See im that asshole who is going to critique your critique:

First off i see both lamb and wolf just fine and i actually love the blend between them. The blurred boundaries where you cant tell where Lamb begins and where Wolf ends, really really fits with the concept. The random splashes and whatnot are sort of what gives this its personality, they fit with the art. Fan Art isnt a specific style of art, you should know as an artist, fan art is simply art of something done by a fan of said something. It can be abstract, it can be hard to see at first, it can be whatever the artist wants it to be.

Consider the following to improve your critiquing of others art: Art is personal, based on personality, style, and individualism. Just because you draw a certain way does not mean it is the best way. Yea the special effects and obscure form do not hit your eyes pleasingly but they do to mine. Bigger or smaller does not matter its how you use it (lol couldnt help myself). Again with the Artist can draw however, maybe they intended for your eyes NOT to focus on any one thing, maybe they want your eyes to just wander?

Final thoughts: I actually agree with you on this but i dont think anyone should be talking cute... its stupid.

Also tits

ALSO. TITS. -brb laughing my way to the Riot shop

Espurresso5 votes

Stop posting here please, I understand how upset you might be with the way I'm talking....All I ask for you is to go away

LunaGanymede1 votes

i dont agree with this guy calling you stupid but we aren't really upset with your ways of speaking, its just a grammar nazi thing really, with myself I know for a fact that if I heard you actually talking irl like this i'd lose my shit and worship you (because I love cute things) But on a grammar standpoint it's just really hard to read things when people typo on purpose or write out a physical stutter. It interrupts the track of reading. Didn't intend to make ya feel bad, I don't think you're stupid at all, just kind of warning you however that the way you type DOES have an effect on how the forum-ers view you. They might mistake you for a more young, impressionable audience and may purposely troll you or baby you, which is detrimental either way

Stephenizgod1 votes

and where did i call him/her stupid? I said talking "cute" was stupid, that doesn't mean I think Darude Dudustorm is stupid. We all do things that are stupid, like drinking coffee or eating donuts (neither of which is healthy for you) that doesn't make us stupid for doing them though, makes us human.

LunaGanymede1 votes

i forgot their name was fucking hilarious

IcyPepper2 votes

See im that asshole who is going to critique your critique:

I laughed my ass off right there

Malicious Fury1 votes

I didn't notice the tits at all until I read your post then scrolled back up and was like OH!

GankLord1 votes

Thank you for being the asshole because I didn't want to be the one but yeah this pretty much. The colors are very nice but it's so messy I couldn't make out the figures whatsoever I am no great artist but yeah I saw that and i didn't wanna be that guy.

Twiggles3 votes

OMG so preeeetyyyyy. @_@

My hype for Kindred is so real right now.

Espurresso1 votes

The hypuh, Even though I play only support and maybe mid ...I will still try Kindred >///< thank you~

SpartenA79913 votes

Interest. I like the art and the style is unique. Good job. :D

Phanpy2 votes

I Love it!! <3

Jungle Lux God2 votes

This drawing ranges from extremely interesting to absolutely amazing.

Interesting for the bizarre art style that makes you wonder exactly what it is depicting.

Amazing for how it brings out the life of what it is depicting once you know what it is depicting.

I love it. Well done!

Espurresso2 votes

T-thank you for your comment! I'm glad people are liking it, I never thought I would see so many comments here >//<

LunaGanymede1 votes

I think you need to reword the comment, cos this image being an absolute blunderfuck kind of defeats its purpose, taking one look at it and my first thought was "what the fuck am i looking at" due to the title. If you say its a champion, id make the effort to outline them, while the colors are pretty, this image is so all over the place that bizarre is not even beginning to describe it, if its fan art you should actually not have to search for the subject, this is better called abstract than fan art

Jungle Lux God1 votes

Just because it's fan art doesn't mean that the artist can't get creative with it.

Vexatiously2 votes

It looks great! A feast for the eyes

TBakes2 votes

I really like the color pallette you are using (just like I like the pallete of the champion itself). Lamb's mask is really what stands out in the "fog" of Wolf, which is cool.

I would agree with GyaradosUsedFly that it could benefit from a bit more definition. I like the effect you are going for, but possibly tapering the formlessness back just a tad would allow the viewer's eyes to be less strained.

I'm not an artist myself, so I cannot give you much more solid feedback, but just keep creating summoner 31

Shroom Junkie2 votes

Lambs don't have boobs. Good try though. +1 :3

LunaGanymede1 votes

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Lambs don't have boobs. Good try though. +1 :3

Dey got nipples. Lamb titties

Shroom Junkie2 votes

{quoted}

Dey got nipples. Lamb titties

Yeah but they have udders so they'd be on the bottom.

FUN FACT! Male sheep have udders too. They're right next to their testicles. AND you can milk them. so weird

AbrahamBaconham5 votes

They also don't wear masks or stand on two-legs.

Artistic interpretation, people!

Shroom Junkie4 votes

{quoted}

They also don't wear masks or stand on two-legs.

Artistic interpretation, people!

I say you give the wolf testicles.

LVL 5 PORO1 votes

Its weird and very surreal. I like it. It makes me want to stare at it.

Hoodwink1 votes

It looks nice, but I only managed to distinguish the characters after looking at them for about 10 minutes straight (no offense).

Espurresso1 votes

S-sowwy , It's just i sometimes get carried away with details and such which makes it a bit ..confusing to say at least.. not to mention I'm pretty new in painting and use most of times cell shading >//<

Hoodwink1 votes

It still looks great! ^.^

ninjaIRL 1 votes

Were you taking LSD? Looks like something I'd see on a trip. rofl

Espurresso1 votes

I was high on Skittles.

AbyssionKnight1 votes

It's an interesting style and I like some of the details added in there.

I will admit though, that at first I struggled to actually see the characters since it's pretty busy and all sort of blended together to me. Figured it out once I identified Wolf's teeth though.

PanterLily1 votes

I really love it! I want a desktop wallpaper from this!

SexySoapTurtle1 votes

I'm not going to lie. i couldn't even tell what i was looking at for a while.. Also the little faces are a bit annoying lol >//<

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Phanpy2 votes

sorry thats how she talks... very shy so kindly get over it...

SexySoapTurtle1 votes

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sorry thats how she talks... very shy so kindly get over it...

Nah.. i'm not going to get over it. Stop white knighting and talking to me. I wasn't addressing you.

Olath Quortek1 votes

This drawing is kinda batshit crazy... I like it! XD +1

Kouga1 votes

^_^

I like it

Conturbatio1 votes

The drawing is nice, but it took me quite some time to find both hunters. Well it's not your fault since they are black & white with white & black masks.

cactusfish1 votes

I love the style! DO post more of your art :D

The Loveless1 votes

I didn't know you could faceroll a drawing too.

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