Well, I've seen that lately you've been focusing on the Void a bit more. New spell particles for Kassadin, Vel'Koz's release, and I don't doubt something more's coming. However, there's a Void creature who looks pretty dated by now, with clunky moves and just a weird design, despite its cool concept.
Is anything coming for Cho? :/
Btw: Whoever was in charge of Heimer's VU, you did an excellent job.
RiotIronStylus5 votesActually here's something I posted on reddit that relates to this pretty well. Reposting:
I want to say that Cho'Gath might be relatively close to the top, though I can't remember off of the top of my head. He's not in the top immediate 5, but maybe a bit after that. What I think the best thing about the prospect of a Cho VU is that we just got Vel'Koz out there. We have a defined look for the void due to that champion. While in the past we were sorta like.. "Well what is the void? Just bugs and purple?" we at least have a more refined precedent with Vel'Koz. Yes, actually, the Void is very much "bugs and purple", and maybe that's not really touching on what the void is in and of itself, but it's a reliable trope set we're now sorta locked into.
I'd like us to go back and reexamine Cho now that Vel'Koz is complete. I think there's a lot of form language, color and other notes that we can incorporate. Right now Cho is preeeettty much Violator from Spawn crossed with a giant Zergling, or at least was highly inspired by back in the day. I think we need to dive back in and come up with some more unique things to work into him.
Right now, he's a big confusion of arms and protrusions. I don't know if that'd change (I've seen a couple of concepts lying around where he has fewer than current) but I don't know if we could get away with lopping off any arms/claws. At the very least, we have to reduce some of the noise. That might come from just giving his various appendages a bit of differentiation in terms of size. We'll see. Nothing concrete yet. I do consider him an "easy win" however in that a) he's a pretty straightforward character b) he doesn't need to be thematically re-defined and c) we've got some great standards set by Kha'zix and Vel'Koz to refer to in terms of quality and style.
Hellioning3 votesI much prefer Cho and Kog's current look over Kha, at least. Vel'Koz looks cool, I guess, but Kha is basically just a giant bug. I mean, so are Kog and Cho, but at least they don't look almost entirely like the bug they're based on (most larva, after all, do not have legs.) Then again, I have a lot of issues with Kha as a champion, but those issues are primarily with your champion design lately, and not just Kha, so I'm probably biased.
daft inquisitor5 votesHe does look a lot like a preying mantis, and doesn't have a lot of that Void-like "Eugh!" factor to him. I mean, that's pretty much what I get from the Void. They're grotesque perversions of things we're familiar with. Vel'Koz is a giant tentacle eye. Kog'Maw is a larval bug with a big gaping mouth of doom. Cho'Gath is all arms and spikes, but in a weird way, he looks like a perverse spider, with his smaller arms being kinda like mandibles. But Kha? Kha is just a straight-up Mantis. There's nothing about him that's "wrong", and I get that feeling from everything else about the void.
The Void is a corruption, a perversion, and that's a distinction I think it needs to have defined a bit more.
Sneak Dog2 votesThis also ties in very neatly with Vel'Koz. My suspicions are that he is the one finding the baselines for the monsters, after which 'daddy' improves them (I wonder if he would like Viktor?). This could create some pretty diverse void creatures, not only bugs.
I also agree Kha'Zix looks like a whole different type of Void creature. He is also much more selfish than the rest, looking to improve himself, settle the fight with Rengar etc. So perhaps something happened interrupting his creation, leaving him in a highly adaptable stage and not feeling unified with the rest of the void?
Kingsgrave1 votesYou see the "Eugh!" factor on Kha'Zix's actual model but not on his splashart. You should place a lot more emphasis on his head honestly. It has the most room for creepiness.
Garentheon1 votesI like this direction
Pyrrasu2 votesSix limbs isn't too many! I think if you moved his scythe limbs back and up, it would make his pincer limbs more visible. A bit of a pose change might make a big difference. The only thing I really dislike about Cho is his awkwardly long head plate, which I think takes focus away from his jaws (where the focus should be).
I'm sure there's better examples of this leg thing, but this longhorn caddisfly larva holds its legs the way I imagine Cho could hold his scythe arms.
PhoenixSlayer131 votesI'd be ok with Cho being more purple... but then what do you do with his nightmare skin?
TheMirai1 votesI thought it was Carnifex/Violator but I guess Zerg is (quite literally) basically the same thing
Kingsgrave4 votesI think Cho'Gath should be more terrifying looking overall. I really like this rendition of him: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Conqueror-Cho-Gath-368960730
He looks like a giant distorted and twisted Spider crossed with a T-rex. You should look at Cho'Gath and go "OH GOD GIANT MONSTER" and not go "oh look at that funny looking giant dude"
When you do the VU I would love it if he got more menacing, corrupt and terrifying the more stacks of his ult he had.
Cryypter2 votesReminded me of this:
http://nyra119.deviantart.com/art/Cho-gath-vs-Ryze-202427998
Calderweiss2 votesThat splash art though.
Garentheon1 votesCho would look awesome
PhoenixSlayer131 votesI believe it's in the pipeline, not sure when though.
I'd love to see some special work done for Gentleman Cho.
Garentheon9 voteshis rupture should have a table pop up with a full tea set and biscuits and crackers
The Gram Wafer1 votesTea, maybe. Crackers, no. Too much work.
The Neverworld1 votesPlease inform yourself here about reworks/visual update/overhaul/texture update for Champions.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion#Upcoming_champion_reworks
Other than that, I've read a Riot Post that they said that there will be most likely a Cho'Gath texture update, because he just looks old - but not totally outdated.
However, there are currently more Champions that needs a rework/visual update - by all means, they need first help, then Cho'Gath can come.
RiotIronStylus3 votesEh, not in love with this list here. It's very anecdotal. Then again, I know the actual list so.. I guess it's decent enough assumptions, but it's off the mark in many ways. I wouldn't point anyone towards it honestly. It's a little deceptive.
LeeDark1 votesWhile anecdotal, the evidence is very well documented and referenced. Is the biggest part of it the order being wrong? Has the company changed directions on some of the past statements Rioters have made to the community? Have uninformed Rioters made some of those comments without knowledge of the actual state of that champion? In most circumstances in which the list is wrong, the fault would lie primarily with Riot for misleading statements.
daft inquisitor1 votesIt's most likely direction changes on VU's, if I had to guess. Some projects being put on hold, or being deemed unnecessary.
I wish Riot would just give us access to their list, so we're not hopeful for something that will never happen. :(
Garentheon1 votesHaha I know how you feel but I also understand the reasons they have for not indulging that information
The Neverworld1 votesWell, it's not like there are any other lists. This is "the" list to actually take a look on Riot's statement overall of what they want to plan to give a visual update and kit rework.
While yes, Rioters can have different opinions from time to time and so the priority changes, but atleast I would prefer this list to get a view on what Riot wants to plan. However, I think everyone should already know that it isn't the actual list and there might be taken off some of the planned ones.
In all honesty, I like Cho'Gath how he looks now, he's a bit cartoonish but yet has a very unique and lovely appearance. The best thing for Cho would be a texture update in my mind, because his colors are like in comparison to a 90' videogame and a Crysis 3 - pretty 8 bit colored and clumpsy.
But again, this is only me talking here - there are millions of other people.
Linna Excel1 votesIs Kayle on that list?
I'm hoping you'd work on her soon because let's be honest, Leona looks awesome and kayle seems to have a few similarities. Strength, armor, similar color scheme, etc. TBH, Kayle seems like a champ you'd easily nail all the thematic notes on.
turkeyBACON2 votesWhile i agree Kayle could use a visual update, she is likely last on the list if she's even on it. She was basically the first champ to receive a model/visual update (anyone remember her old chicken wings?) and so she likely not on the list since shes inline with the current quality standard but just not as interesting.
If they were to change her, it would likely have to be a thematic overhaul like Trundle. She and Morgana still have their old/legacy lore and no other champs have been pulled in nor introduce from their heavenly alien origin. Their basically untouched, though not probably not forgotten. like trundle they'll be re-envisioned into another established lore.
If I were to guess, their wings are too iconic to be removed; so it'd be odd to just place them in Demacia and Noxus. I'd personally place them as from the Fae lands that Lulu disappeared into. Since we don't know much about the Fae lands, it would give the relaunch team a lot more creative freedom. Kayle and Morgana could essentially stay the same with bird/angel wings but I'd like to see them reimagined as more fairy like. Kayle could be more royal and elegant as perhaps one of the daughters of a royal line of fairy military rulers. Morgana could be of the more classical fairy myth were her mischief is more wild,evil than innocent play.
I kinda went off on a tangent there but my point would be that Kayle deserves an update but the type of update would be need to be determined first and then the scope of it would likely put her last on the list of a very long list already.
Garentheon1 votesEven though she did already have a VU, her quality is actually not inline with the current champs/VUs that have been released recently
exec31 votesStill much better than most champs in the game. My guess is they'd do a Relaunch for Kayle, her gameplay is too toxic when good and is not fluid to play as.
RiotIronStylus3 votesShe's on there, but I don't think will be any time in the immediate future. My personal preference would be to overhaul her and Morgana simultaneously and find out where the hell they really fit in and design them accordingly.
Garentheon1 votesI've seen you mention this before, and I'm all for it.
DomoSapienXD2 votesIronstylus, I remember roughly a year and a half ago, one of your mates had ACTUALLY posted a list of 7-11 champions who were due for VU's. It very well may have been you. I can't remember. Regardless, I have yet to be able to find that exact list since then but something I did remember is that Malzahar and Kassadin were very close to each other. Either right next to each other or on the opposite sides of twitch. THe list itself seemed to be in chronological order as well as the RED OP stating that it's kinda in order with a give or take basis.
Malzahar is my favorite champion and who I owe a lot of my successful games to. Is there any word on his VU? I really hate his can opener thumb :c Can Opener Thumb Screenshot via puu.sh
Would be thankful for any word on it! c:
exec33 votesJust because some champs might need a VU more than Cho'gath doesn't mean Cho doesn't need one (he does look totally outdated imo) and that he won't get one first. All sorts of factors come into it other than who looks the worst.
The Neverworld1 votesI never said that Cho is the last one or that there are other that "deserve" it more - but there are currently Champions in the work for a VU. I am not and wasn't aware of any informations concerning of Cho'Gath's VU work in any current state - that was the whole intention of my comment. No need for downvotes.
exec32 votesJust saying that he needs much more than a texture update and I never downvoted you. :S
MXXIV1 votesI love how Cho'Gath looks like now to be honest. I pray for no changes and I'm getting scared by guys who demand them.
The7thKing1 votesi honestly would stop thinking 
is related to the void anymore, after your nerfs riot, you just threw his only viable path down to 
and 
's tier. nice goin reds,'d not scary anymore, hes just a freak like sion or urgot.
Pink Taric1 votesI'd really like to see a Taric VU soon. He's tiny compared to the other champions in the game and his animations are really stiff. Also triangle feet and a wonky cape. The only part about Taric I really want to see preserved is his VO. It's probably his most recognizable feature and it was one of the things that drew me to the champion back in late season 2.
DomoSapienXD1 votesThe size deal is the same with Kayle too. I realize she's an Angel, but her size makes her look like a fairy next to anyone else.
