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My take on a possible Darkin.

The Neverworld··7 votes·755 views

Because a kid downvoted the first thread and afterwards the second thread and again the third thread and again the fourth thread without no reason (Haters gonna hate) and the threads literally disappeared, I'm posting this a fifth time again. And the ones who downvoted it, here a message: Do it as much as you want, I'll post it again and again.

Good day, I'm a desperate League of Legends player, artistical hobbyist and Custom Champion Designer. While I'm loving to create a new Champion out of nothing, I do also love to draw him, even though it's just with a pencil.

However, one of my first Custom Champions is a Darkin who has two forms, the human form and the Darkin form. But since two weeks I've started to experiment with Zbrush, a program that has been also proven worthy by a new Rioter (Who also was on a presentation and showed Singed and Heimerdinger, how detailed and lovely they look).

Because I wanted to try it out, I experimented with it. I watched some couple tutorials and got my fingers on it. I started immediately to make the Head of the Darkin. His appearance is a bit similiar to Aatrox, but he's a bit bigger, a bit wider and has horns that comes out of his mouth. Half of his head is covered by a small helmet that actually looks like organic. Because he has extremely big wings that almost covers his body and aren't made for flying, but rather smashing the enemies with it - his horns had to be made looking forward and not backwards or in the air.

Here's my take on a possible Darkin. Mortalis, the Twisted Darkin.

Beware, I'm not professional and this was my first try on everything, I didn't even try to make something different to experiment with.

Mortalis-Head in front: http://halfsteps-neverworld.deviantart.com/art/Mortalis-Front-Head-433656018?q=gallery%3AHalfSteps-Neverworld%2F48121102&qo=13

Mortalis-Head on the side: http://halfsteps-neverworld.deviantart.com/art/Mortalis-Side-Head-433655996?q=gallery%3AHalfSteps-Neverworld%2F48121102&qo=12

I'm currently working on the whole body, but damn.. it's hard to make wings...

23 Comments

The7thKing3 votes

he looks like a cockroach

Rhyto2 votes

From the start sure, but it's not bad I guess

The7thKing2 votes

looks like you put a cockroach and a man on a train and smashed em together

MackleDoge2 votes

Seriously man, please stop reposting this. People will either like it or they won't. It's extremely rude to continuously repost this. Personally I like the way it looks, but at this point I'm more annoyed at the way you are handling this then I am impressed by the concept.

The Neverworld3 votes

Whats wrong with you? I deleted the previous threads. Calm down.

MackleDoge2 votes

I realize you did that, and I understand the desire to share this with people, but it's pretty standard etiquette to not repeatedly post things over and over. It's one thing if you're updating it with more work (like the body and wings which I'm personally excited to see how you design them). Don't get me wrong, I like what you're doing and the design you have going on, I just dislike when people repeatedly post the same thread over and over again.

The Neverworld2 votes

Apparently, there's a kid showing up and downvoting for no reasons.

If it's on 0 or - the thread will disappear from the "Hot" section and will be only seen in "Recent" if not pushed back by other toxic posts.

The reason why there's downvotes and upvotes, are mainly so that the community decides on its own when a thread and its topic is unhealthy/toxic and should not further take attention.

But because this special kid appears, dislikes and feels himself better with it, I tried to delete the thread and post a new. I want him to stop his toxic behavior.

I just wanted to make a thread and show some love I made for one of my Custom Champions. Receive some feedback regarding the appearance or anything about it.

It's not like I want this, but I dislike people who feel themselves better only by showing some of their "power". You should never give powers to a local idiot..

JackAqua2 votes

Well, I think that "kid" is me. I down voted your second thread, because it was a second thread. You'd reposted it because it didn't get the "boom" you'd expected. And also I downvoted, because I remember those pictures from another thread ages back, and because I really don't like those huge horn-thingies coming out of his mouth.

The Neverworld3 votes

Then you don't get the real purpose of down and upvoting. I'm really disappointed about you.

It wasn't a second thread. I made one a thread about 1 months ago, but then got comments like "hi" or any other toxic comments, so I deleted it. And thought I could post it now and get normal peoples.

But apparently, I got stuck again with toxic people.

MackleDoge2 votes

Umm, I actually think him downvoting based off of the premise that he dislikes the design is exactly the purpose of upvote/downvote system. That's actually why I don't like this sort of forum system.

JackAqua1 votes

No, that was just an additional reason. I downvoted his second thread, because he actually created a second, identical thread. I didn't downvote the first thread, even though I didn't like it, that would be childish.

MackleDoge2 votes

I get why you're doing it, the thing is that you repeatedly deleting and reposting is turning the whole thing into a battle of stubborness. They will repeatedly downvote it just because you reposted it, you repost it because they downvoted it, and so on. Reposting like this can be just as toxic as baseless downvotes because it turns your thread into a hostile environment to begin with. In this situation I don't think you are doing it to be toxic, so please don't misunderstand, but this is the price people pay for implementing an upvote/downvote system (thus why I don't like this format). Unfortunately, if people are downvoting it, then with your own words "the community decides" and maybe your content is interesting, but people are tired of seeing it or don't have much to say about it?

The Neverworld2 votes

Let's take an example. There's a guy who makes silly jokes about League of Legends.

Riot sees in it a toxic way to downgrade their game.

Community can see two things: Agree with Riot or disagree and think it's just for fun.

Riot could delete the post for their own benefit, but they won't. They let the community decide if the thread has to be taken down or not.

Trust me, I'm very active in this forum and I post Champion Concepts since last year march. Riot stated, that the down/upvote (or like/dislike) system is mainly to assure that toxic posts are being seen. Every day, maybe almost 500 threads (in one forum of one country), random crap or important things, appear all the time. Noone from Riot can take an eye on the toxic threads, so there's the system.

However. I don't repost it and create several threads at once. I simply create, and when it gets downvoted, delete and repost it, to get over a kid's stubborn choice to downvote something what is in his eyes worth to be not acknowledged in any way.

However, someone upvoted it and it became +2, now +1. JackAquas useless try has been defended. Hopefully for now.

MackleDoge2 votes

Outside of the fact that I doubt Riot would actually care about that type of post, I don't think we see eye to eye on what is considered toxic, or maybe we don't agree on the exact premise of what is and isn't upvote/downvote worthy. Regardless, I dislike it when people repost threads, regardless of the circumstance, because that decreases the chances of someone else seeing a newly made thread or having an important issue addressed. We have to keep in mind not everyone scrolls through a lot of the forum, so if they go the the site and see this post again and again, they might get the wrong idea that nothing is happening here and it discourages them from participating. Again, I'd like to emphasize I don't have anything against you or this thread, I'm excited to see updates about this, I just think repeated posting without updates just trying to garner attention is, all things being equal, a bad policy to allow or encourage on an upvote/downvote based forum system.

Rhyto2 votes

It's not bad, but have you made the full body sketch via paper or image instead of slowing detailing from head to foot cause it looks like it'll take a while.

The Neverworld2 votes

Yeah, I made it about 1 year ago. It looks still terrible.

I think I'm drawing him anytime soon again, otherwise here: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=722598&stc=1&d=1388070255

I tried yesterday to make a fast sketch, but I wasn't concentrated (Because of the LCS probably) and made only the head, shoulders and the hand. http://halfsteps-neverworld.deviantart.com/art/Mortalis-the-Twisted-Darkin-434663380

The Ghost Orchid2 votes

Seems interesting. I like the forward pointing horns, but the tusks might make it hard for him to talk. I imagine his speech being really garbled. I imagine him sounding like someone getting used to talking while wearing a retainer. What if the tusks were protruding from his cheek bones rather than from his mouth?

The helmet has a lot of visual real estate that's currently unused and it currently looks like a bowl cut (probably my least favorite of hair cuts as I had one when I was a kid in the 90s). When I think Aatrox, visually speaking, I think smooth surfaces juxtaposed with jagged protrusions. You said you wanted the helm to be organic, so I'd like to see how you'd like to make that more distinct.

Take it easy.

The Neverworld1 votes

Thanks for your feedback.

It's true that it might look strange, but he's another race. If I put something in the right and left place of my mouth, I couldn't speak either clearly. But that's because I am not used to. If Mortalis, who actually lived centuries (Like Aatrox) lives with it, I think he can talk properly, maybe similiar to Aatrox, but more deeper and furious.

About your idea for the cheeck bones, I dunno.. it would definitely take the "special" in him, what makes him actually unique. Riot is extremely creative, they make characters beyond anyone's imagination. If I want to make something similiar, then I have to go forward and try something very strange/different to actually make something that says "This is a League of Legends Champion, no doubt" - instead of "This is a straight copy of X game".

I made it from my drawing picture http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=722598&stc=1&d=1388070255 (made 1 year ago)
So I had it planned to do it.

When I say organic, I mean a part of Mortalis, like the claws, wings. He has no eyes, the helmet is like with super glue, it won't ever fall down, its... I dunno how to explain it.

The Ghost Orchid2 votes

Okay, I see I see. So, it's not just that the helmet appears to be organic, it actually is organic. If that's one of the core concepts you're going to be trying to push, I would try to keep in mind a kind of naturalistic approach. Since you are looking at Darkin and not a real race, then to make it feel real, it needs to follow things that would happen in nature. As Viktor says, function over form- that is, all the organic components in him need to have a purpose.

Thick skulls/large horns are used for defense/mating rituals (proving who's the best between males) and are most often seen in herbivores (think Triceratops, not Tyrannosaurus). That's not to say that as a sentient being he has to be a 'wimpy herbivore' but to get to that point to look like that, it would have to be somewhere in his/its ancestry. See what I'm saying though?

I was trying to sketch what I meant with the cheek bones a bit earlier, but I'm surrounded by pens when all I need is a pencil and I couldn't get the look quite right. I was trying to draw the cheek horns with the skull plate/helmet growing around it.

From here though, I'd recommend doing a bunch of sketches with a variety of horn/tusk/skull plate configurations to get a sense of what feels the best.

Oh yeah, I didn't mention it before, but I like the idea in the OP of those big leathery, yet vestigial wings.

By the way, what type of gameplay were you looking at? I imagine he won't be lugging around an auto-cannon.

The Neverworld1 votes

Ha, funny thing.. now that you talk about mating.. I've made a second Champion that is a hybrid Darkin. So not a real Darkin, but received the powers of a Darkin (A bit complicated) and she only made through the ritual of a Darkin because..

Mortalis is half-human, though not real human. Mortalis changed his appearance to create more war by giving false information (like saying that a allied kingdom prepares his troops to invade the own kingdom). But by the time, the longer he was veiled as human, he became human. Two personalities split, who fight each other. One wants to live in peace, one wants to see agony and pain. The one who created the feelings in first line, was a female human who liked Mortalis. Because the Darkin goes enraged everytime the human tries to touch the female human, they couldn't live together. So the female human made a ritual to be a Darkin, but unfortunately she was just a "hybrid". Human appearance, but the characteristics of a Darkin. Its funny because you mentioned the mating part, that works pretty fine into that..

However.. I know it looks like the two horns in his mouth are very ... uncomfortable. But the horns are in the underjaw anchored. So if he opens his mouth, he moves the two horns. Other than that, he is able to talk (but a bit harder because his lips aren't flexible enough.

Abilities:

Two skillsets, human and darkin. Simplified, I have a thread for him but that's a huge wall of text.

Human-Q: Up to 3 seconds channel/charge, then shoots a bolt as a skillshot. If hit, deals damage and leaves a curse/debuff that deals damage if the enemy target is using a ability within the duration. Can be prematurely shot, but then won't do the max damage.
Darkin-Q: Short dash that deals damage to targets hit by going through. Upon recast, dealing furiously damage within 300 range, kicks back targets who stays on the edge, and if not on the edge receive bonus damage.

Human-W: For the next seconds, 50% of all incoming damage will create afterwards a shield for the amount. If the shield stays, Mortalis will be healed for the double of the left shield amount.
Darkin-W: Passive - receives bonus Spell Vamp // Active: Turns all physical damage (basic attacks / abilities) into magic damage

Human-E: A thunder appears in the designated location. It stuns enemies in the center and afterwards deals damage over time in the area. Stunned targets by E who gets continously damaged by the the AoE, will get a debuff that allows Mortalis to receive 100% spell vamp only working for E ability.
Darkin-E: Illusive claws goes straight in the path. The faster you press E in a row, the faster the projectile speed. Roots enemies hit by depending where they got caught. The more far away, the greater the root duration.

R: Switch to different form.

He's some sorta Nidalee, but not ranged dictated. Close combat Mage with strong initial potential (Can be used in Jungle though or as a Bruiser lategame. With the Mage kit, he can outplay nicely).

The Ghost Orchid2 votes

Lol. Didn't think you'd focus on the mating part. This is what I was talking about regarding the horns (using Elk as an example. Antlers, not horns, but whatever).

"Male elk have large antlers which are shed each year. Males also engage in ritualized mating behaviors during the rut, including posturing, antler wrestling (sparring), and bugling, a loud series of vocalizations which establishes dominance over other males and attracts females." (Elk wiki)

So Mortalis is a 'sometimes human - sometimes darkin' or is that a second, unnamed champ you're talking about?

The Neverworld1 votes

Well, there's the female hybrid (Lucinda) and the male Darkin (Mortalis).

The Darkin here is Mortalis. He was born as a Darkin, but changed his appearance to a human. Due to the long time being a human, his personality was split - he became multiple personalities. One is the Darkin, and the other is the Human.

Lucinda though, was always a human who became recently a Hybrid. Because Lucinda and Mortalis had to break up and leave each other, she felt sorrow and sadness and brought herself onto the battlefield, where she destroyed every single heart of man. Due to the rapidly aggressive personality, she became a true Darkin - ironically, even as now a full Darkin, she is still obsessed by her heart becoming black, and will never return to her true self.

The Neverworld1 votes

Lol another kid appeared and didn't only even dislike the thread, but also all comments no matter of their topic.. I'm asking myself how stupid can someone be to actually think his lifetime is worth doing that?

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