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New Champion (WIP) Please Help!

MillieGal·10/28/2013, 11:40:09 AM·1 votes·1,496 views

For those who have clicked to view this thread, this idea is still a WIP (work in progress). I have many idea's for this champion and would love any impute to help make him a perfect candidate for the League Champion selection.

Basics
Name: Bakonawa (meaning Lizard God) or Bashu (meaning lizard)
Gender: Male
Role: Support

Passive/Abilities/Ultimate
Passive: Speed Boost- When an ability is activated, he and any nearby ally champion gain movement speed for a few seconds (Not sure if it should have a cool down or not. Opinions will be appreciated)
Q: Fly Catcher- His tongue shoots out a short distance and goes through minions to grab an enemy champion pulling them to him and stunning them for a few seconds (Cool down and mana cost suggestions would be appreciated)
W: Chameleon- Changes his appearance to match his surroundings granting invisibility for a few seconds (Cool down and mana cost suggestions would be appreciated)
E: Scale Armor/Deceive- When cast on himself, ally champion, or turret, grants shield increasing defense for a few seconds and sends any enemy spell back to its caster dealing half the damage it normally would. On enemy cast, turns them or turret to his side for a few seconds. (This ability is very questionable. I'm thinking of just making it Scale Armor or just Deceive. Please give suggestions on how to improve this ability and make it work)
Ultimate: Copy Cat- Copies any enemy or ally champions last used ability or ultimate (Again, this is questionable and needs help tweaking)

Lore
(Renekton's brother? Story idea's for this much appreciated. I'm thinking one betrayed the other and now they are enemies)

Skins
(Images linked are not mine! I take no credit in making them. I'm just using them as basic looks for the skins. I understand that these may not and should not be used as the real skins unless granted by the creator)
Normal Skin http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs7/i/2005/170/4/8/Lizard_man_by_Epantiras.jpg
Full Metal http://cdn.staticneo.com/w/megaman/4/48/Stingchameleon.jpg
Barbaric http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/gbagok/Tours_of_Eternia/toe13_ssskins.jpg

Idea Credit
(Here I will post users who have input their idea's and give them credit for helping create this champion)
MillieGal (Champion Creator)
EndlessReign (Helped tweak Fly Catcher and gave brother idea to the lore)
Sir ArmaMalum (Helped tweak Scale Armor)

17 Comments

ploki12210/28/2013, 12:45:40 PM2 votes

Bacon aWa

ArisenHero10/28/2013, 12:46:43 PM2 votes

I like some of your ideas here. I think that this is a viable champion with just some tweaks that you have already mentioned.

Deceive is an interesting ability and I think that it should be an ultimate ability because it looks very powerful. Also, instead of making the enemy turret attack your enemies I think that it should be like ohm wrecker and just make the turret not attack for 2.5 seconds. If you cast it on an enemy champion then it should be like exhaust and reduce their damage for a few seconds.

The ultimate ability copy cat does not seem like a support role ability and I think it should be replaced with a heal mechanic of some sort and make it a non-ultimate ability.

I like the fly catcher ability and to make it fit the character and make it more unique among supports I think that it should have half the range of say blitz's rocket grab but be able to go through minions like Leona's zenith blade.

The passive speed boost will probably be 3% same as Janna's passive, it should last 2 seconds and not have a cooldown imo.

The W ability should only last 2 seconds as well or it will be op as well. It may already be too op when combined with his Q and passive.

As far as lore goes maybe he can be Renekton's brother.

Those are my thoughts for the time being.

Sir ArmaMalum10/28/2013, 3:02:43 PM2 votes

Passive has great potential, but I think the real question is does it stack? If it does, give it an internal cooldown, if it doesn't (which I suggest) then an internal cooldown isn't nescessary.

Q and W are good abilities by themselves, but combined is scary as hell, with both in the same kit you're gonna have to make sure the Q range or the W duration is short.

Deceive kind of goes outside of the lizard theme here, that and any conversion ability will probably never see the light of day in the League, lore or gameplay wise. All imho.

Ult has great potential, but instead of copy, why not stick with the scale/defensive motif? If you're trying to have a "return to sender" ability why not a damage reflect? Make like Sivir's spellshield but instead also throws the blocked ability's damage back at the attacker (with a max damage of x+(0.xAP))? Throwing out ideas here.

Lore-wise I could see him coming from South of the Great Barrier, similar to Rammus. Need more sentient beasts from there imo :)

Also, whenever I make a champ for fun or whatever I try to see of there is a current live champ to model off of. Take their base stats and numbers as a baseline and tweak where you see fit to make getting the numbers easier. If i may suggest a blend between Janna and Blitz?

CYB3RSEX10/28/2013, 3:31:14 PM1 votes

The only thing that i think needs a little tweaking is his ult because this could get a little ridiculous at times like if you were going up against a Karthus and you ulted him and then you got his ult, then that can get a little OP. But other than that i think its pretty good :D

MillieGal10/28/2013, 3:49:53 PM1 votes

I'm thinking of Maybe changing the passive to Shed Skin. This Passive will shed stuns, slows, etc

blazer199610/28/2013, 6:01:07 PM1 votes

I think the skill set is pretty interesting. You got the speed boosts, pulls and ally protection which clearly make him a viable support character. The problem for me is that the champion is way too similar to champions and abilities already in play (apart from that e). And his ultimate is way too OP. I understand that this is a WIP but I thought some healthy criticism would help. I really like the idea of a Lizard God. Maybe with his passive you should try tuning some more jungler-ish abilities in him. Also look into some of the biology of lizards. Such as the ability to regenerate certain parts of the body like the tail. You could tweak in a healing ability that would give you a massive heal but with some negative side effects for a short duration. That way the heal would balance out.

Anyways hope this was helpful. Sorry if it was too long. :)

JackAqua10/28/2013, 6:16:47 PM1 votes

I think he should steal an allies appearance :D

Chosen Chozo10/28/2013, 8:28:11 PM1 votes

His Q seems extremely powerful unless a really short range. A pull that can go through minions doesn't exist in the game (For good reason! It would be a very powerful skill shot that can only be avoided by dodging it. Even Nidalee's spears hit minions!), and the only pull that has any kind of stun is Thresh's and even that pulls for a short distance. Couple that with his W, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Overall, the whole kit doesn't have much of a link together thematically. Q and W work as a lizard kit, but the rest seem like they should be on a completely different champion. By the way, have you ever played Awesomenauts? Your champion seems to be influenced by the character Leon from that game.

PyroAeroVampire10/29/2013, 4:15:35 AM1 votes

I like most of the ideas here, but I'm having trouble getting past the q mechanic. If it goes through minions and hits only champions, i think it's range should be about that of Shen or Graves' dashes (I think around 500) and about the same CD as Blitz pull. To compensate, make the projectile fast and damage a little higher than Blitz pull at later ranks. By the way, if you're going to have a lore situation with Renekton, Nasus must be included since Renekton and Nasus are already siblings. I think he should be a scientist from Zaun who, after a freak accident in which his lab was raided during a lizard related experiment and was injected with lizard DNA. IDK, just spewing out random stuff. but I don't think it'd be very possible to make Renekton a part of his family.

Zetra1311/6/2013, 5:35:14 AM1 votes

I think the Ult should be Deceive itself. This is a very very strong skill that can turn a team fight around really fast (imagine turning Soraka while her ult is ready and making her use it on your team, thus turning the heal against her?) and make foes fear their own turret-hugging ways (but make the turret untargetable to your team so its not used to basically get in too many free hits) Deceive lasts for 5 seconds on champs or 3 secs on turrets, but leaves a 'confusion' effect on them that causes your basic attacks to reduce the cool down of Deceive each time you hit them. This can be used against a tank, to Deceive him then kill his allies, then attack the tank to refresh Deceive faster (CD about 3 min but reduces the CD by 1/2/3 for each hit on him. Since the Tank has the most health, this will maximize the effect.